GUILTY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave , 7 May 2017 *GUILTY OF ABUSE OF CORPSE ONLY* *resentencing 2022* #4

[MsBetsy]

Of all the unsettling things in this case, Kim Richardson's text messages telling her daughter to not let up on the Dulcolax so she can lose weight to look hot in her clothes in Destin....so disgusting. We were told she had a 7? inch thick medical record due to chronic and persistent eating disorders.

If Skylar's extended family (aunts etc) are as supportive as they claimed to be in interviews leading up to trial, they need to be going to extremes to get her help and disentangled from Kim.

It's been reported that Skykar works in the Rittgers law offices and she's probably lucky to have some sane concerned people in her life from that. But I get a very bad feeling almost a premonition about her likely longevity looking at her in the court video yesterday.
JMO of course

That's horrible. Now I can see why her daughter has problems. She's going to need a lot of help. Imo

 

[Mariposa]

Not to disagree with you but my cousin lived for over 30 years looking like a skeleton before her heart muscle gave out. I do think Skylar looks very bad and the condition of her hair is not a good sign. I guess I'll never understand why these anorexics actually starve themselves to death.....

Even if one can live for decades with the disorder raging, the quality of life and functioning of the mind must be so impacted.. It's all really sad! To have that illness is one thing but to have a sick complicit mother egging it on is next level. Makes me glad that my mom never pulled any of that crap with me.

 

[Mariposa]

Thank you. That helps a lot. I did not realize the body had been buried for so long.
I wonder how the skull fractures occurred. I wonder if she dropped the baby on the floor when she pulled her out. She said she pulled her out by her hand, which I think would be a little difficult.
Although it may have occurred when the baby went head first into the toilet. In the end she stated that the baby was in the toilet for about five minutes. I would think she would have drowned.
It also states that Dr. Brown said there was no indication that Skylar had any medical condition that would cause the baby to be small or malnourished. This contradicts the opinion that she had anorexia and the baby was still-born. Imo

A lot of what Dr Brown testified to such as no increased risk of stillbith was discounted by defense witnesses including an Ob/Gyn specialist. I IMO based on verdict the jury did not give much credence to Dr Browns testimony.

Re skull fractures Dr Latham the forensic anthropologist called by the state testified they were postmortem defects. Given that some of the bones were never found and it was a shallow grave IMO animals could have done the damage.

 

[dizzychick]

Yeah, she said she had a lighter and started at the bottom. Then she tried to "shoo" the fire out. It sounds like she intended to burn the body, then changed her mind and buried it instead.
But as the report of the findings was retracted, I guess it's not relevant.
Do we know why it was retracted? Did another expert disagree with the findings? Imo

Dunno and they never found the foot bones to my knowledge, did they? So many weird events surrounding this case. Sometimes I thought she was just a very immature child like imp and other times I thought she was very cunning and methodical. I wonder if her father will sue the doctor's office for giving her those birth control pills? I wonder if somehow she forged that script for which she should be charged, probably won't happen at this point, she would get a NG if they did lol

 

[dizzychick]

BBM. That is not true. Any google search on false confession would show you that false confessions occur without beatings or threats of beatings.

It's Saturday I meant to post this yesterday but here it goes, I cracked up when daddy Richardson said he did not know that cops can lie to you and that the police interview room was video/audio recorded, yeah he never got this memo, a great message for everyone:

Shut The Up FRIDAY

 

[Mariposa]

I wonder if her father will sue the doctor's office for giving her those birth control pills? I wonder if somehow she forged that script for which she should be charged, probably won't happen at this point, she would get a NG if they did lol

I doubt they'd have any case on the dr for the birth control pills. The dr testified they would not have been harmful to the pregnancy at that point if taken. Can't sue someone for something that caused no harm.

Plus of course the dr office put in a cancellation of the prescription but she already had filled it. That was the infamous email from the dr office that Kim somehow opened that said discontinue pills due to patient pregnant. Which triggered the text messages between Kim and Skylar where Kim has like WTF? and Skylar said it was a mistake by the dr office. Very curious what Kim was really thinking after that whole incident.....so anyway even if the pills were harmful (they're not) Skylar knew the dr said discontinue the prescription.

 

[MsBetsy]

Dunno and they never found the foot bones to my knowledge, did they? So many weird events surrounding this case. Sometimes I thought she was just a very immature child like imp and other times I thought she was very cunning and methodical. I wonder if her father will sue the doctor's office for giving her those birth control pills? I wonder if somehow she forged that script for which she should be charged, probably won't happen at this point, she would get a NG if they did lol

Well, even young kids can be manipulative but I do think she was emotionally immature for her age.
I doubt she forged her scripts.
I don't think it's illegal for Drs to prescribe birth control pills to minors, unless things have changed recently. Wasn't she advised to stop taking them when the doctor learned she was pregnant? Imo

 

[dizzychick]

I doubt they'd have any case on the dr for the birth control pills. The dr testified they would not have been harmful to the pregnancy at that point if taken. Can't sue someone for something that caused no harm.

Plus of course the dr office put in a cancellation of the prescription but she already had filled it. That was the infamous email from the dr office that Kim somehow opened that said discontinue pills due to patient pregnant. Which triggered the text messages between Kim and Skylar where Kim has like WTF? and Skylar said it was a mistake by the dr office. Very curious what Kim was really thinking after that whole incident.....so anyway even if the pills were harmful (they're not) Skylar knew the dr said discontinue the prescription.

IMO she was trying to kill that kid, why else would you take BC pills when you are already 6-7 months?

 

[Mariposa]

IMO she was trying to kill that kid, why else would you take BC pills when you are already 6-7 months?

IMO it was more like she was taking then to keep up the facade with her mother that she wasn't pregnant. She even used that as a point in her texts with her mom-- why would I be on the pill and losing weight if I was pregnant?
Plus you can't end a pregnancy with a daily BC pill def not at her stage. It's not a thing medically and the prosecution never claimed that.
So I think that was part of her pretext with mom. But of course JMO and YMMV that maybe she was hoping it would work that way.

 

[dizzychick]

Well, even young kids can be manipulative but I do think she was emotionally immature for her age.
I doubt she forged her scripts.
I don't think it's illegal for Drs to prescribe birth control pills to minors, unless things have changed recently. Wasn't she advised to stop taking them when the doctor learned she was pregnant? Imo

Correct not illegal at all, just wondering where the SNAFU happened? Was it a mistake on their part or did she commit another crime, Mariposa cleared it up where I missed the part about the emails and canceled RX. Daddy was real concerned about Skylar getting that script too instead of asking her why she wanted it after she was already pregnant. Too late to lock the barn after the horse has been stolen as my mom would say. I miss my mother, she passed in 2006, she would have plenty to say about this case. She remembers when there was no BC. Orange Juice is what they had she told me, I asked well when before or after, she said instead LOL She was so nerdly lol

 

[Boodles]

I doubt they'd have any case on the dr for the birth control pills. The dr testified they would not have been harmful to the pregnancy at that point if taken. Can't sue someone for something that caused no harm.

Plus of course the dr office put in a cancellation of the prescription but she already had filled it. That was the infamous email from the dr office that Kim somehow opened that said discontinue pills due to patient pregnant. Which triggered the text messages between Kim and Skylar where Kim has like WTF? and Skylar said it was a mistake by the dr office. Very curious what Kim was really thinking after that whole incident.....so anyway even if the pills were harmful (they're not) Skylar knew the dr said discontinue the prescription.

I’m curious what Kim was thinking during the incident. She was very quiet, had very few, if any Q’s for SR in the interview room. Meanwhile, the dad was pelting her with tons of questions, trying to understand what had transpired and why. The dynamics were very interesting IMO and really got me thinking...

 

[dizzychick]

IMO it was more like she was taking then to keep up the facade with her mother that she wasn't pregnant. She even used that as a point in her texts with her mom-- why would I be on the pill and losing weight if I was pregnant?
Plus you can't end a pregnancy with a daily BC pill def not at her stage. It's not a thing medically and the prosecution never claimed that.
So I think that was part of her pretext with mom. But of course JMO and YMMV that maybe she was hoping it would work that way.

Good Lord this is Sooooo Cindy and Casey Anthony

 

[dizzychick]

I’m curious what Kim was thinking during the incident. She was very quiet, had very few, if any Q’s for SR in the interview room. Meanwhile, the dad was pelting her with tons of questions, trying to understand what had transpired and why. The dynamics were very interesting IMO and really got me thinking...

Daddy would attack her every time she tried to talk..

 

[MyBelle]

Did you see some of the stuff about that same Judge that came out long before the trial? Pretty interesting history

Accused of illegally striking a memo by the defense team from the court record
Did judge illegally strike memo from court record in teen mom baby murder case?

Or when he was under investigation, and subsequently served with a grievance by the Ohio Supreme Court, for allowing the prosecutor to watch court proceedings in his office via a live video feed that was set up. Defense attorneys were concerned that Fornshell and the prosecutors could hear privileged conversations between them and their clients.
Judge investigated over prosecutor's video feed

Pretty outrageous behavior, imo. The media has an ethical duty to keep the public informed about the actions of elected officials. I hope the media spurs an ethics investigation of both the DA and the Judge just as a media inquiry spurred an ethical investigation in a Judge in another state for the way she handled attorneys in a child custody case:

Facing ethics inquiry, juvenile court judge retires; she says she's 'tired' of challenges, critics

 

[Mariposa]

I’m curious what Kim was thinking during the incident. She was very quiet, had very few, if any Q’s for SR in the interview room. Meanwhile, the dad was pelting her with tons of questions, trying to understand what had transpired and why. The dynamics were very interesting IMO and really got me thinking...

Maybe it's the long ago psychology student in me but...yes I would love to see a psychological study of Kim. And what she saw, heard and perceived as to Skylar in the spring and summer of 2017. She basically said in texts before the April dr appointment at Hilltop that she was heartbroken (or some similar sentiment) that Skylar was sexually active and needed birth control. So many layers and undercurrents of secrets/lies/guilt/shame/denial.

 

[dizzychick]

Pretty outrageous behavior, imo. The media has an ethical duty to keep the public informed about the actions of elected officials. I hope the media spurs an ethics investigation of both the DA and the Judge just as a media inquiry spurred an ethical investigation in a Judge in another state for the way she handled attorneys in a child custody case:

Facing ethics inquiry, juvenile court judge retires; she says she's 'tired' of challenges, critics

did the defense make any comments about their memo that was shredded? what was it about?

 

[AllyBeeUK]

He "knew it" in his heart, bless him.

He was speaking to the cameras, not to Skylar. It's fact, not opinion or politics, that Ohio ranks high on the list of states in which all manner of "early personhood" laws are being proposed and passed.

Seemed very clear to me what message the judge wanted to send.

(Paraphrasing):

Point 1. "Some say the unborn are being killed every day in the US, but here, life is precious."

Point 2. "Life is precious and is to be safeguarded and protected at every stage. The law doesn't allow the State to prosecute women for actions they do or don't take during pregnancy. That's why you weren't charged for not getting prenatal care, and why I can't take your grotesque indifference to life before giving birth under consideration in sentencing you."

Point 3. "Had you decided to get prenatal care (most germaine) your baby would be alive today. "

Message: Lives would be saved if the State had the right to hold women legally responsible for what they do with their bodies during pregnancy.

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BTW...I read up some on the Judge's alleged transgressions. The special access he and the other 2 judges afforded Fornell to the vids/recordings had every appearance of impropriety. Which for sure isn't a good look for judges or for the DA, and a bad enough look for the judge to be disciplined. But...the recordings themselves weren't taken surreptitiously, and the system of piping court doings elsewhere was neither new or novel. Just shouldn't have been piped in to Fornell's office.

The judge's choice to have the supporting memo to a defense motion shredded rather than sealed....now that's different. WTH.

BBM: Interesting, and rather chilling actually. He was certainly performing to a particular gallery.

This case has actually given me pause and caused me to rethink my position on certain subjects. I'm wary of discussing it here but the more I've read up about the characters in this case the clearer many things become.

 

[Seattle1]

IMO she was trying to kill that kid, why else would you take BC pills when you are already 6-7 months?

Of course she was hoping to harm her unwanted fetus! Time was closing in on her.

She told detectives she searched for how to get rid of baby and one of the things that came up in her search was pills. I believe she misunderstood the reference was for morning after pill to prevent conception.

The fact she went to OBGYN specific for bc script when she was 2 weeks from delivery, AND started ingesting them the same day says it all. Listening to her parents, they also appeared misinformed about effect, and if taking them leads to miscarriage.

 

[dizzychick]

Maybe it's the long ago psychology student in me but...yes I would love to see a psychological study of Kim. And what she saw, heard and perceived as to Skylar in the spring and summer of 2017. She basically said in texts before the April dr appointment at Hilltop that she was heartbroken (or some similar sentiment) that Skylar was sexually active and needed birth control. So many layers and undercurrents of secrets/lies/guilt/shame/denial.

Geesh she must be really old school... The only thing I recall about ED is they feel a total loss of control of their lives and the one thing they can control is their weight so they refuse to eat or eat and vomit or abuse laxatives or all of the above. They like the attention they get when people notice the weight loss and then they like the attention when people start to say " hey you look too thin" etc then it does something to the brain and they cannot stop, it's really sad. By the time they realize it is physically hurting them the damage has been done.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Yeah, the birth control pill is not Plan B. I think it's valid to wonder if it would be a factor to an unborn fetus, and valid to wonder if it was unethical for the doctor to have prescribed it as a method of "fooling mom", because then who knows how much backbone the doctor will have in future cases, or has in the past - was this the doctor's office at which the aunt worked? - but birth control pills have not been shown to harm a developing fetus, because the placenta is there doing its proper filtering job.