OH OH - Brian Shaffer, 27, Columbus, 1 April 2006 - #2

[Brainy]

Thinking of this and praying that there is new information about what happened to Brian. Watched the surveillance video and wondering how would someone just disappear...

 

[Brainy]

I have contemplated contacting Clint Florence but I guess I never had the courage... but I believe I just don't know where to even start. The fact that he just bailed on Brian by not providing any information is extremely suspicious especially if he was his "close friend". I have thought if he had lured Brian into this place to hurt him for whatever reason. Since LE didn't have substantial reasons to suspect his involvement then they didn't push it any further because perhaps Clint had a motive that nobody else knew about.

 

[geojeffrey]

I personally believe, MOO, that Clint knows more than he is saying. One theory I have, is that they met up afterwards to do drugs. Perhaps going to buy the drugs is where Brian disappeared to initially. Maybe Brian died while doing the drugs and Clint hid the body to protect both of their reputations..Just an idea no real basis for saying that


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[Jbrown324320]

I believe I read somewhere that Clint lawyered up right away. Why would you do that if you had nothing to hide? red flag. I think Clint brought him to the bar and set him up somehow. I don't know how or why. Clint did not want to risk all the money and time he spent on college to ruin his career, so he wouldn't cooperate. All my opinion only.

 

[Alleykins]

I believe I read somewhere that Clint lawyered up right away. Why would you do that if you had nothing to hide? red flag. I think Clint brought him to the bar and set him up somehow. I don't know how or why. Clint did not want to risk all the money and time he spent on college to ruin his career, so he wouldn't cooperate. All my opinion only.

Because anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, even if you have nothing to hide and are innocent.

 

[neesaki]

I personally believe, MOO, that Clint knows more than he is saying. One theory I have, is that they met up afterwards to do drugs. Perhaps going to buy the drugs is where Brian disappeared to initially. Maybe Brian died while doing the drugs and Clint hid the body to protect both of their reputations..Just an idea no real basis for saying that


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I have contemplated contacting Clint Florence but I guess I never had the courage... but I believe I just don't know where to even start. The fact that he just bailed on Brian by not providing any information is extremely suspicious especially if he was his "close friend". I have thought if he had lured Brian into this place to hurt him for whatever reason. Since LE didn't have substantial reasons to suspect his involvement then they didn't push it any further because perhaps Clint had a motive that nobody else knew about.

I believe I read somewhere that Clint lawyered up right away. Why would you do that if you had nothing to hide? red flag. I think Clint brought him to the bar and set him up somehow. I don't know how or why. Clint did not want to risk all the money and time he spent on college to ruin his career, so he wouldn't cooperate. All my opinion only.

I agree, I think we're all onto something. The so called "friend" Clint, has something to hide. He knows something. Was it just a drug thing gone wrong? Or did he have an ax to grind and some sort of vendetta against his friend. It's not unheard of that so called friends have issues with jealousy and / or envy. Idk, I'm just throwing it out there. That said, he doesn't seem to have been very helpful or forthcoming with information. And has shown no interest in finding his "best friend". To me, it seems there's something rotten in Denmark. JMO

 

[Brainy]

I agree with everyone's thoughts shared in here. Even if Clint got a lawyer to protect himself... That's generally not what an innocent and blissfully ignorant person would have done in the first place. If he was truly innocent, he would be concerned abwout Brian if he was his friend. I am not trying to accuse Clint, but his actions sure make him look guilty as hell. If he was truly concerned about his reputation he would not be hiring a lawyer, if he was not involved he would be able to openly talk about it. Maybe he was afraid that without legal defense he would crack before the cops.
another theory that I consider is that Clint might have hurt Brian inside the bar, hid him somewhere and then had gone back to get rid of the body. This really explains why there was no video of Brian leaving the bar, nor him wandering off somewhere outside the bar. from what I have read, there were lots of surveillance cameras in the area. Also, it's wise to consider that Clint was very familiar with the bar

 

[snowblossom2]

I agree with everyone's thoughts shared in here. Even if Clint got a lawyer to protect himself... That's generally not what an innocent and blissfully ignorant person would have done in the first place. If he was truly innocent, he would be concerned abwout Brian if he was his friend. I am not trying to accuse Clint, but his actions sure make him look guilty as hell. If he was truly concerned about his reputation he would not be hiring a lawyer, if he was not involved he would be able to openly talk about it. Maybe he was afraid that without legal defense he would crack before the cops.
another theory that I consider is that Clint might have hurt Brian inside the bar, hid him somewhere and then had gone back to get rid of the body. This really explains why there was no video of Brian leaving the bar, nor him wandering off somewhere outside the bar. from what I have read, there were lots of surveillance cameras in the area. Also, it's wise to consider that Clint was very familiar with the bar

I'm sorry but I find your avenue of thinking completely wrong. Everyone should get a lawyer before speaking to the police. Its not evidence of guilt or innocence

 

[Brainy]

I'm sorry but I find your avenue of thinking completely wrong. Everyone should get a lawyer before speaking to the police. Its not evidence of guilt or innocence

Whether you agree with me or not relevant, the truth is, if his close friend cared about him he would be cooperative in trying to find missing Brian. It's not about getting a lawyer or not, it's his actions that make me suspect that there is much more than he shared with anyone.

 

[TheKingInYellow]

Brian Shaffer's disappearance feels close to my heart, as Randy Shaffer offered a $8,000 dollar reward to any information leading to Holly Metzger-Carruthers location. It is a damn shame that Randy Shaffer passed away without getting answers to his son's mystery disappearance. Here are some information that could give a great overview of the case.

True Crime Garage did a two part series on Brian Shaffer:

Part 1: http://truecrimegarage.com/podcast/blog/brian-shaffer-16

Part 2: http://truecrimegarage.com/podcast/blog/brian-shaffer-part-2-17

Reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries has some interesting discussions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...nsolved_mystery_10_years_later_brian_shaffer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...an_shaffer_disappears_from_a_crowded_bar_but/

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1flpeo/the_disappearance_of_brian_shaffer/

Charley Project:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/shaffer_brian.html

Website for Brian Shaffer:

http://www.findbrianshaffer.com/

 

[trenchmouth]

What's the leading theory of what happened to Brian? How did he get out of the building with both exits under surveillance?

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[neesaki]

Brian Shaffer's disappearance feels close to my heart, as Randy Shaffer offered a $8,000 dollar reward to any information leading to Holly Metzger-Carruthers location. It is a damn shame that Randy Shaffer passed away without getting answers to his son's mystery disappearance. Here are some information that could give a great overview of the case.

True Crime Garage did a two part series on Brian Shaffer:

Part 1: http://truecrimegarage.com/podcast/blog/brian-shaffer-16

Part 2: http://truecrimegarage.com/podcast/blog/brian-shaffer-part-2-17

Reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries has some interesting discussions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...nsolved_mystery_10_years_later_brian_shaffer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...an_shaffer_disappears_from_a_crowded_bar_but/

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1flpeo/the_disappearance_of_brian_shaffer/

Charley Project:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/shaffer_brian.html

Website for Brian Shaffer:

http://www.findbrianshaffer.com/

I'm not familiar with Holly's case, so please forgive me, but is there some possible connection to Brian's case? TIA

 

[Flatbush]

I am in Ohio, remember when this happened. Going to go back and read up. Perhaps we can locate this fellow. Positive thoughts!

 

[Brainy]

Had a strange dream about Brian. Let me just tell you that I didn’t personally know Brian but I could hear him clearly in my dream. His face wasn’t very clear and almost looked blurry, and he kept saying, “Keep me in your thoughts, you’re really close.” I did not look at him but I could feel he was hearing me somehow and I said in my dream that I was thinking of him, will keep thinking and praying for him and his family.

When I woke up I had a sense of terrible sadness and broke down in tears. I really, really hope there is new information and there is finally a resting place for this man.

 

[Brainy]

What's the leading theory of what happened to Brian? How did he get out of the building with both exits under surveillance?

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There are number of theories… but the most interesting one is no one seems to be sure of how many exits were for sure and which ones had surveillance and which ones didn’t. There is a main entrance, employee entrance and at the time of disappearance there was a construction exit as well.

 

[iluvmua]

Is there any new information?

 

[trenchmouth]

There are number of theories… but the most interesting one is no one seems to be sure of how many exits were for sure and which ones had surveillance and which ones didn’t. There is a main entrance, employee entrance and at the time of disappearance there was a construction exit as well.

Was he drunk? Here's a theory:

Was drunk. Annoyed the wrong person. Gets punched and knocked out or killed. Person panics and carries him out one of the back exits where there are no cameras and dispose his body. Could have happened at closing time after most left the bar. Could be inside job or not.

Obviously someone can't go in a bar and not come out. He had to have been taken out a back exit off camera.

I don't believe he left on his own. Foul play definetly involved. I think someone working there knows what happened




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[Brainy]

Was he drunk? Here's a theory:

Was drunk. Annoyed the wrong person. Gets punched and knocked out or killed. Person panics and carries him out one of the back exits where there are no cameras and dispose his body. Could have happened at closing time after most left the bar. Could be inside job or not.

Obviously someone can't go in a bar and not come out. He had to have been taken out a back exit off camera.

I don't believe he left on his own. Foul play definetly involved. I think someone working there knows what happened




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He was very likely drunk and considering that fact that he never exited the bar (no evidence/ no one claims to have seen him existing the bar) and just vanished into thin air does tell that somebody else was involved. It is also very odd that nobody else besides Clint claimed to have seen Brian before he disappeared. There is something wrong with the timeline. I think Brian was either killed by someone who was perceived as “friendly” or by someone who he was comfortable with.

 

[MatthewTyler]

I definitely think foul play was involved and that it was personal. The fact that his bank card has never been used and no wallet/id/phone has ever been recovered leads me to believe that these items are still with his body- meaning that this was not just a random mugging gone too far. A random mugger would have likely used his card for at least one night (it was stated that he wasn't carrying cash). I believe that whoever killed Brian just wanted him dead and out of the way and didn't care at all about taking his personal belongings. I have a feeling that someone might have put his body in the construction work and that he may have just been constructed over without anyone else knowing. OR perhaps he fell into the site on his own, but I find that a little less likely. Either way I believe his possessions are still with him

 

[dotr]

Wondering how easy it would be to access the roof of the club, and if it had been checked?