Found Deceased OH - Cheryl Coker, 46, Riverside, 2 Oct 2018

[doodles1211]

Is this the same body wrapped in plastic...? I am thinking it is the same.

OH - Steven Johnson, 47, found dead wrapped in plastic, Clay township, 08 Oct 2018

 

[FruitTingles]

Duplicate

 

[FruitTingles]

Police complete search of missing Riverside woman's home

From article linked above:

Husband William Coker is not considered a suspect.

I wonder if they’re saying this to make WC think they’re not ‘on to him’ or if he genuinely isn’t a suspect?

 

[Jethro4WS]

Police complete search of missing Riverside woman's home

Husband William Coker is not considered a suspect.

Interestingly, that only comes from a bullet point summary but is not mentioned or quoted specifically in the story itself. The story is written from a statement issued to the media. The only quote from the statement in the story that mentions suspects is ...

“No suspects have been identified yet in this case,” the department’s statement continued, “and everyone has been cooperative.”

Police have been playing coy already today with what they said about the search. You don't get a search warrant to search a home because it is "standard procedure" in missing persons cases. You have to go before a judge and attest to information that a reasonable person would evaluate as being more likely than not that a crime occurred and evidence related to such a crime will be found where law enforcement would like to search. Obtaining a search warrant in a missing persons case with no evidence of a crime is difficult because adults are free to go wherever they want, whenever they want, without telling anyone where they are and judges don't just hand out search warrants in missing persons cases as "standard procedure".

Not sure why the police are doing this. They end up creating a problem in their community where the community members are left to determine on their own whether or not there is some random stranger randomly selecting victims and they are roaming the community right now.

 

[soap mama]

Is this the same body wrapped in plastic...? I am thinking it is the same.

OH - Steven Johnson, 47, found dead wrapped in plastic, Clay township, 08 Oct 2018

I would say yes

 

[doodles1211]

I would say yes

Well, not Cheryl.
So, where are you Cheryl?

 

[GraceG]

Interestingly, that only comes from a bullet point summary but is not mentioned or quoted specifically in the story itself. The story is written from a statement issued to the media. The only quote from the statement in the story that mentions suspects is ...



Police have been playing coy already today with what they said about the search. You don't get a search warrant to search a home because it is "standard procedure" in missing persons cases. You have to go before a judge and attest to information that a reasonable person would evaluate as being more likely than not that a crime occurred and evidence related to such a crime will be found where law enforcement would like to search. Obtaining a search warrant in a missing persons case with no evidence of a crime is difficult because adults are free to go wherever they want, whenever they want, without telling anyone where they are and judges don't just hand out search warrants in missing persons cases as "standard procedure".

Not sure why the police are doing this. They end up creating a problem in their community where the community members are left to determine on their own whether or not there is some random stranger randomly selecting victims and they are roaming the community right now.

Excellent summary!

How it normally works is if someone is reported as missing and there is a chance there are in the home, dead or injured, law enforcement can make an “exigent circumstances” entry to the home, to ascertain if the person is indeed there and render aid if there is an illness or injury.

Exigent circumstance is defined as "circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of the suspect (if one is named) or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts ".

Such a search is limited to places where a person could be concealed, and as soon as it was ascertained there was no one there in need of help (or someone deceased), the exigent circumstances would expire. In order to do ANY further search of the home or its contents, LE must get a formal search warrant to search further. They are allowed to leave officers on the scene for security while the warrant was obtained, but they would NOT be able to search further without the warrant.

How difficult it would be to obtain the warrant would be determined by the facts of the case. Is foul play suspected? Is it likely the house will contain evidence relevant to the case? Did the first search reveal any evidence (evidence in plain view, or contained within the areas that could conceal a person) that gives rise to probable cause for a search warrant? Every situation is different, and the facts of each case determine whether or not the police will be able to secure a search warrant, or if a search is needed at all.

 

[robert91]

They don't? What are the examples of things they do come in for? (UKer here, so not overly knowledgeable on FBI protocol)

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[robert91]

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sorry I was trying to quote for buddha on there question as to when the FBI gets involved

 

[brigmill]

Whoever said the FBI doesn't investigate murder cases must not follow the FBI's facebook page.

 

[brigmill]

If you go to the Montgomery County (Ohio) PRO page and do a search for names involved in this missing person's case, you will see that on 9/21 she filed for divorce and restraining order. Two weeks later she goes missing...very close to her house, where it looks like her car was just parked and left with all of her personal belongings locked inside. Quite the coincidence. Police aren't going to come out and say who they think is involved. They want as much cooperation as they can get.

 

[soap mama]

I’m not going to say anything about criminals who leave keys wallets and phones behind!!

 

[Gardenista]

delete

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I read yesterday these are allowed.

 

[Oneduality]

Is this the same body wrapped in plastic...? I am thinking it is the same.

OH - Steven Johnson, 47, found dead wrapped in plastic, Clay township, 08 Oct 2018

That's unrelated, it was a man and he was identified.

 

[soap mama]

That's unrelated, it was a man and he was identified.

I think doodles meant, is this the body found wrapped that we initially thought may be Cheryl, if that makes sense. Altho none of this makes sense on another level *sigh*

 

[mks762]

MOO, husband killed her at the house, dumped her car, walked back to his car, and got rid of the body.

RSBM
Why would the husband move her car to that location?? What difference would that make in his mind? If he wanted to make it look like she left on her own wouldn't he have taken it to a bus station or something?? I wouldn't think "oh she left her car next to Kroger- she must have left on her own"
I don't know, that part is really bugging me...why is the car there?

 

[Timekeeper65]

RSBM
Why would the husband move her car to that location?? What difference would that make in his mind? If he wanted to make it look like she left on her own wouldn't he have taken it to a bus station or something?? I wouldn't think "oh she left her car next to Kroger- she must have left on her own"
I don't know, that part is really bugging me...why is the car there?

Easy walk back home?

 

[mks762]

Easy walk back home?

Why move the car at all and risk someone seeing you moving it? Moving it during the day in a seemingly busy area and walking home seems super risky and unnecessary

 

[Alethea]

Whoever said the FBI doesn't investigate murder cases must not follow the FBI's facebook page.

The FBI has statutory jurisdiction to investigate any violent crime committed in a public place when help is requested by local LE. That's in addition to their jurisdiction to investigate any federal criminal offenses, criminal conduct that crosses state lines, and other specific statutory grants of jurisdiction like kidnapping.