GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #6

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Thinking it will be the same thing tomorrow for SK.......

Rats. I can see that happening too, sadly. SK was looking a little more strungout at the last hearing, maybe a good sign if it indicates he's shaky enough to let something slip.

Sorry for all that this is adding to the pain FM and CC are going through. All the more reason to start pushing for a victims' bill of rights. It seems as though AS and SK are having their rights seen to just fine, but it's up to TJ, TS Sr, FM--the family to try to look after Elaina's rights and then their own.
 
I'm praying tomorrow there will be some

BREAKING NEWS ON BABY ELAINA!!!

I hope she sees the cd's and tells where the baby is. I'm sorry to have to say this but, I had to go over the I-280 bridge today and seen that a huge ship was going down river to the gran mills. If they did put baby Elaina in the water. That ship would get the water moving around and go right pass where the witch said they put the baby. I'm not sure if the ship is still at the mill's but I'm praying baby E finds her way home.

For the Lawyers in this town which I think one will be appointed to SK. There isn't any that I'm aware of. That is more of a Hot shot then a human. The one that was appointed to the person who hurt my daughter and three other girls asked to talk to me during the trail. He said I KNOW HE IS A MONSTER BUT I'M GOING TO DO MY JOB SO HE DOESN'T GET OFF ON APPEALS. He was very nice to us. The monsters Mother wanted to talk to me and tell me she was so sorry for what had happen and that she didn't raise him to hurt anyone.
It still wasn't comforting when he cross examined my daughter on the stand. She wasn't able to pick him out of a line up right after it happen. They had DNA with my daughters case and he was found guilty and is serving 120 years. My point is the lawyer will do his or her job but they are just like the rest of us that want justice for baby Elaina.

vasportsmom I'll help you get to the court house if this goes to trial. You will not have to walk far on those Crutches !

fingers cross this sweet baby will be home soon.
 
Thanks for sharing your story Lucimhome. You and your daughter are so brave to have stood up to the trial and won a conviction and dealt with the monster's lawyer and mother with such graciousness.
 
What ever happened with the hair? Could that be why they are now calling it a homicide investigation?
 
I just dropped my youngest and the nieces for the first day of school. Pebbles had Katy's hand and was prepared to get her to her classroom. That should be K and Elaina in a few years. Bring our sweet girl home!
 
What ever happened with the hair? Could that be why they are now calling it a homicide investigation?

As far as I can tell the hair was a no deal because they said there was not enough dna on it to test . So it's unrelated or if it is related it is of no use to the case because it cannot be proven :(
 
Today is a big day ! Let's pray and hope and wish with all our might that someone breaks . This family is in chaos because of the actions of evil. It's ripping through them and it's not fair .

FM,, :( Hang in there. Your family will survive this intact . There are dark days but there is light at the end. Just hold on honey !!!!!!
 
Thanks for sharing your story Lucimhome. You and your daughter are so brave to have stood up to the trial and won a conviction and dealt with the monster's lawyer and mother with such graciousness.

Yes, thank you for sharing! God bless you and your daughter.
 
Maybe it will come to light today why it has been changed to a homicide investigation....


PRAYING PRAYING PRAYING!!!!!

HUGS to Ferretmommy!
 
From Yesterday:

http://www.northwestohio.com/news/story.aspx?id=934187#.UgzZe21ejVY

Again, the hearing was postponed but this time at the request of Steinfurth's attorney who asked for more time to review nearly 30 hours of video interviews taken with Steinfurth and Toledo Police.

"When they actually said they had something they had to go over and her attorney had to talk to her about that...we were happy. We were really happy because [Angela Steinfurth] came in [court] smiling, but when she left she wasn't smiling," Smith added.

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ETA: How can you walk into court smiling when your daughter is missing?! WOW. Glad it was wiped off her face!!! The truth is coming out, no more smiling for you!
 
http://www.toledofreepress.com/2013/08/15/trial-date-set-for-king-in-missing-child-case/

Trial date set for King in missing child case
Written by Staff Reports | | news@toledofreepress.com

Steven W. King appeared in court Aug. 15, where his pretrial hearing was pushed back to Sept. 5 and a trial date was set for Sept. 16.

His defense asked for more time to review new evidence and Judge Ruth Ann Franks granted the request.

King&#8217;s ex-girlfriend Angela Steinfurth appeared in court Aug. 14. Her pretrial hearing was moved to Sept. 4 for the same reason. No trial date was set for Angela.

Both are charged with obstruction of justice in the case of Angela&#8217;s 1-year-old daughter Elaina Steinfurth, who was reported missing June 2.

Nancy Grace, PLEASE cover this!!!!!!!
 
I'm new. I'm about to make a few posts, and share my thoughts on this case (which I didn't hear about until Monday, and I've spent literally every waking moment outside of work catching up on).

I've read every post, and the first thing I need to say is Thank You.

I've been with this for 5 days. I'm sad and angry and confused and doubting humanity. Many of you have been here for 10 weeks, and I can't begin to imagine what that's been like.


It's a thank you to WS itself for existing.

It's a thank you to the mods, your tireless efforts in keeping this site "safe" - preventing it from becoming a tool in thwarting justice. Some may feel the rules are cumbersome and stringent, but they do have value.

I was really touched that you also go to all the effort of maintaining a different thread so that family can stay up to date without having to see speculation - I'm a huge believer that the mind can only contemplate what it's capable of handling. Your own worst case scenario thoughts are challenging enough - but add into that mix the worst case scenarios from a variety of people from different backgrounds and different walks of life - (which is one of the reasons why WS is magnificent - so many different angles, opinions and insights) could be quite hard to bear.

So thankyou for that. Someone's signature here is that we are all one bad decision away from ending up a thread on here rings true, and I'm really really touched that the extra effort is made to protect, but still inform family and friends.

To the members - for being civil, intelligent, and not afraid to admit when you're wrong, or incorporate and analyse new facts when they come to light. That you can respectfully disagree and still work towards the common goal of finding the missing! For giving your hearts and thoughts to a stranger. For loving her from afar.

The best way I can articulate my amazement is if I wrote it into a job description.

HELP WANTED
Responsibilities: Fall in love with a child you've never met.
Disseminate and demystify information from a variety of sources, ensuring to stay out of legal grey zones.
Bear witness to the best and worst of humanity.
Be haunted by her picture. Dream of her. Think her name every few minutes or hours.
Pay - zero.
Time commitment - at least 12 weeks. Emotional commitment: lifetime.


There are not many people who would take that job. But you all do, time and time again.


The tireless mapping, timelines, verifying things for newcomers who haven't read all the previous posts (and I must say on Monday I didnt anticipate it taking this long to get caught up - so I understand why some don't) the prayers, the care love and support to the family.

There are too many people to name individually, but thank you nonetheless. I don't want to miss anyone here so I won't try to name names but I need to give a special shout out to GGE with the transcriptions. I'm on the other side of the world. Geo-restrictions prevent live streaming and shows don't air here. Without your efforts my understanding would have enormous gaps and misconceptions.

And ACR for getting the official documents out there.

The "insiders" from the press, and the family - thank you for taking the time to be here too. Your contributions and clarifications are so important.

I have been lurking on WS for several years. There were a few high profile Aussie cases where threads on here helped fill in the gaps of MSM as Australian law has a great deal that is not publishable.

I've been back regularly recently, because I'm haunted by a photograph in MSM that relates to a NSW missing person. It's just a property photograph - it just resembles a dark dark place from my past - not clearly identifiable, but this hunch is there in my gut since April and I can't let go of it (even though my psychologist has told me to drop it, it's 99.9% unrelated and a bunch of properties would be the same.)

So I was checking for updates there. Trying to see if there is a little something more to make me make that call and not come across as a nutter. And I found this thread - and even though I haven't been here 10 weeks - not even 10 days - it's the case that made me join. And I will see it through until Elaina is home.


I've got a late/ early so I might not get through all I want to say before the need for sleep claims me, but at the very least this is a bump for a little girl who has already claimed a part of my heart.
 
Aww ICU Nurse, welcome ! Thank you for joining for Elaina ! She needs all the warriors she can get behind her :)
 
I know its a little time has passed since TJ blew up at those who were loving and supporting him, but this is a post for FM (and an electronic hug!)

I wholeheartedly believe that Wendiesan was correct when she said in times of great stress we lash out at those who we trust the most to love us anyway.

The Facebook message about "not going to apologise" in its own, perverse way, means he knows he has done the wrong thing - and that eventually he will.

I know that it doesn't take away the pain and hurt, but maybe you can take it as a testament of his faith in you. Being "step"- mum, you've probably had to be the bad cop on more than one occasion (or have been made out to be) and I'm guessing you've gone on and loved TJ anyway - so he knows you are a "safe" person to lash out against.

In a normal situation, I'd be saying you don't deserve to be a punching bag (and regardless of the situation, you still don't deserve it - deserve isnt the right word but im struggling to come up with something better) - but this situation is far from normal.

If you can be big enough to keep loving him - then I think that it can all be restored. Maybe it's one of the things he needs the most right now - an outlet.


It probably seems totally inconceivable that he would "do a deal with the devil" over something that seems trivial at the outset. I'm going to share something personal - not because any of this is remotely about me - but so that maybe some understanding of the inconceivable or irrational can start to make its own sort of sense.

We lost our first pregnancy with a missed miscarriage at 18w, 3 days. We had a scan three days earlier and everything was fine. A week later, I felt really off - no other way to describe it. Dizzy but not ill, no bleeding. Went up to the hospital. Waited around for 8 hours after work because in terms of priority, I was a primi with no "concerning" symptoms. Just, you know, a first time mum being hysterical. I hadn't felt any movement for a couple of days, but movement had been a transient thing up until that point - still quite new and sporadic, and the MW's weren't worried. (One actually told me I hadn't ever felt movement yet, it was psychosomatic.) Annnyway. Finally got an ultrasound. Then a doctor. Then another machine and a different doctor. And a doppler. Until the doppler came in, I assumed there was a complication. When that was brought in, I knew there was no heart beat.

Cut a long story to the bare bones. Baby had died a few days earlier, my body hadn't caught up yet. (What they call a missed miscarriage)

I was given misoprostil and syncontin and induced. And pushed and screamed and cried and gave birth to my daughter, weighing 382 grams.

My mum and sister were flying in from interstate to be with me. My husband never left my side.

A few days later I went hone, with a discharge summary to give to my GP. Of course I read it. The diagnosis/procedure stated : "Medical Abortion"

That piece of paper hurt to an extent that I couldn't communicate it. I became fixated on it. On getting it changed. On getting the laws changed (and in 2012 a new bill was introduced to allow BD&M to voluntarily register babies earlier than 20 weeks gestation.) I wanted, no I NEEDED something tangible to hold on to - to know that I was a mum. That I had a daughter. That she existed.

No birth certificate. The only record, aside from US scans of my baby was the damming statement "medical abortion."

Like it was somehow my choice.
I couldn't stand to see those words there.

The funny thing is, I'm a health professional. I know that by ICD-AM standards that was the appropriate clinical coding terminology. And the hospital I was at was actually my place of work - (it isn't any more, changed to adult intensive care from paeds emergency as non-accidental injury cases were giving me dexter-style fantasies) but made a war to get it changed.

Huge war. Tore my husband apart - i was oblivious to his grief about our daughter, and was just angry with him for not being as adamant as i was about getting the discharge summary changed, about getting a birth certificate.

I know there has to be a cut off point somewhere. But being 22grams off "stillborn" - and having the difference be the term abortion was killing me.

My sister and my mother, who have both suffered miscarriages (genetic MTHFR mutations I've since found out) were my targets too - I made horrific, disgusting statements when they tried to console me and say they have been through it. I said they couldn't compare because they were early losses. (I never really noticed before then that one stage of grief is needing validation of your pain - and we turn into strange competitive animals around it. Loss is loss, pain is pain, and a gestational age doesn't matter!)

The things we do for pieces of paper.

I look back now and I am so deeply ashamed. And so grateful and blessed to have people who still loved me and stood beside me despite my ateocious behaviour. My sister was cut exceptionally deeply, and it took time for me to mend that bridge. But she stood there with me, daggers that I had flung still in-situ.

I got my piece of paper. It was a hollow victory - because the cost was so high and it didn't really change a thing.

I had to come to grips with my own sense of responsibility, my own perceived failings (I own cats, I drank one night just after conception so it was all my fault) before I could really heal.

I don't know if this would help TJ - but I started a journal where I wrote letters to her. Maybe when a future child is old enough, maybe I will give it to her to read. It made me feel, truly, like I was a mother - even if my baby girl wasn't with me. I still write to her now and then. I wrote to her last night about a little girl far away called Elaina. It has become the piece of paper I almost threw everything away for - something tangible that let's me know I was a mum, that my baby existed.


I think if TJ wrote to Elaina about everything he is feeling - the anger, the fear, his love for her, how betrayed he feels by this wall of silence from people he has known most of his life - maybe it could be his tangible thing too. Maybe he could forgive himself of his own perceived failings. And maybe, when K is old enough, and really starts to question what happened - maybe it can go to her too. So she will know that she was a big sister. That noone ever had any blame for her. That everyone tried to protect her. That her dad has a huge capacity for love in his heart, and never forgot about her sister.

And just to reiterate - I'm not drawing any parallels beyond the silly things we can fixate on in times of grief. And the hurt we can cause by doing so.

My heart breaks for all of you. Take care of yourself. Let the people you work with support you. And while there is no real escape from what's happening - try to use this period of time where you're being kept away at arms length as a brief respite to regroup again.

I hope the new evidence makes someone talk soon.
 
ICU Nurse, thank you for joining us and for sharing your story. I'm bawling for you and your daughter now. I can't begin to even comprehend the pain that so many here know first hand. I don't know that I would be strong enough to get through any of it. I have 2 happy, healthy sons and 2 beautiful, healthy nieces that have became more like daughters so I'm here because I want every child to have what my own have. Here I can feel like I'm doing something to help, even if that "something" is just letting the family know that a stranger cares. Elaina has became special to me and it is usually the missing boys that draw me in. If tears could bring Elaina home then our sweet girl would be getting covered in kisses right now. I'm glad that she has one more warrior on her side. She deserves all the attention we can get her.
 
Your love for Elaina, and her family - and your commitment to her (same with Schmae and so many others) is one of the reasons why I signed up.

You've said so many beautiful, hopeful wishes for this baby admits everything you're doing for your mum and your nieces - you've brought me to tears a few times yourself!

And I love that you hug them that little more. Find ways to be the cool fun aunt. It's like Elaina, while not home with those she should be already has a legacy - and it's one of inspiring love.
 
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Welcome ICU Nurse! Thank you so much for sharing your story and your beautiful posts. You are such a strong person and my thoughts are with you. Bless your heart!
 
Your love for Elaina, and her family - and your commitment to her (same with Schmae and so many others) is one of the reasons why I signed up.

You've said so many beautiful, hopeful wishes for this baby admits everything you're doing for your mum and your nieces - you've brought me to tears a few times yourself!

And I love that you hug them that little more. Find ways to be the cool fun aunt. It's like Elaina, while not home with those she should be already has a legacy - and it's one of inspiring love.

Yes! I love this . Elaina IS inspiring love .
 
Yes! I love this . Elaina IS inspiring love .

Yes... I must agree....

I am so sad tonight. "My" cases are, one by one, coming to a close the past few days... one found alive, one found dead, and one unfound... and that is dear, sweet Elaina... she was the first of the three that I began following obsessively and is the last of the three to be found and it just breaks my heart. I want so desperately to believe that she is alive somewhere.

I have to admit that for a moment this morning I entertained the thought that RS is refusing to cough up the SS cards and birth certificates of the girls because, in my brief daydream, I imagined that Elaina was with a distant friend or relative in Florida and they needed her official paperwork to apply for government assistance, or to enroll her in daycare, or to get her medical help, or to be allowed to take her on a cruise, or to get her a passport....

It is such a beautiful daydream that I'm going to cling to it for awhile... :please:

sending prayers and love, today as always <3
 
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