GUILTY OH - Johnny Clarke, 21, & Lisa Straub, 20, murdered, Springfield Twp, 31 Jan 2011

[Sonya610]

-When someone comes to my door and knocks / rings the bell my dogs have always barked. I don't know why but they will at least make an attempt to either get to the door or make some type of noise. This is especially true while someone is knocking at the door and ringing the bell for a prolonged amount of time.

Depends on how old the puppy is and how long she had him. If the pup came from a rescue situation he might not even realize what a doorbell means, if he were recently adopted he might not feel confident enough or protective of the house. He might not be able to differentiate between family/friends/strangers yet hence no barking. Young pups often won't bark an alarm if they are unsure, their instincts say keep quiet and don't draw attention to yourself when unsure.

Glad to hear the puppy was spared, too often around here if there is a burglary they will torture/kill the dog for fun, especially if it is a small dog or a puppy that can't fight back. I wonder if the dog was hiding or if he was just put up in another room, did the killer know about the dog and spare him? Or just not see him.

 

[jashrema]

Johnny's mother has set up a FB memorial page and is asking for donations for funeral expenses. Info is down towards bottom if anyone is interested in donating.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny/190897417605357?v=wall

 

[SurfieTX]

Was Johnny found with his necklace on, or was it found at all? From the FB pictures, it seems he wore it often.

 

[Benny08]

Johnny's mother has set up a FB memorial page and is asking for donations for funeral expenses. Info is down towards bottom if anyone is interested in donating.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Johnny/190897417605357?v=wall

Quite a few pics of him there. He's WAY bigger than I originally thought.

 

[jashrema]

Quite a few pics of him there. He's WAY bigger than I originally thought.

Exactly what I thought too! He certainly looked like a big, strong kid

 

[jashrema]

Are we allowed to post things on sleuthing the "Tiffany" that everyone is talking about? I'm really unsure, have emailed a mod, but I don't want to break the rules as a couple of my post have been removed. Are we allowed to "sleuth" her, or only if she is officially named as a suspect? Help!

 

[Benny08]

Are we allowed to post things on sleuthing the "Tiffany" that everyone is talking about? I'm really unsure, have emailed a mod, but I don't want to break the rules as a couple of my post have been removed. Are we allowed to "sleuth" her, or only if she is officially named as a suspect? Help!

I would say no.

 

[Benny08]

I have a question of my own. Are we allowed to link to other forums that discuss this same case?

 

[jashrema]

Don't ask me! lol

 

[jashrema]

Police are now offering a 5000.00 reward for info. This might shake some things loose..

http://toledoblade.com/article/20110207/NEWS02/110209448

 

[Stolly]

Key information:

I previously listed that I believe the key found could be a safe deposit box key.

I searched a little more and found that 544 can be a keyID for a cabinet key (camlock disc key). The only pictured example I could find is on Ebay. You can see it here, please don't take this as any type of advertising for the listing, it is simply the only color photo of a 544 camlock key I could find.

This could mean that the couple supplied a key to a furniture cabinet that was locked, not necessarily a safe or safe deposit box.

 

[SurfieTX]

Looks like Tiffany's brother was friends with Johnny. They hung out together quite a bit, or so it seems. Tif's brother is upset about the murders.

 

[wanttohelp]

wow maybe mom is hiding something

 

[wanttohelp]

it seems like that girl wanted johnnys side to find them.

 

[FifthEssence]

Mother was just on NG. She pointed the finger directly at the 'friend' who said she was on the tele @ 11PM.
She would not discuss John's past criminal history but did say that Lisa's ex-bf just got out of prison a couple months ago and was very jealous.
She also said something about her and John speaking about how he was going to pick Lisa up ( don't recall if she said when the conversation occurred) and they were having friends over later to play pool.

Maybe someone knows how to get the transcript.

 

[investigate1]

Appears to be someone the couple knows. Most likely someone the female knows well. Someone the female spoke to often or was able to mention plans/activity with-in the house around that time. Someone that has been in the house before. Absolutely would have a criminal record. Hopefully finger prints will be found. Hoping they can find some type of DNA under fingernails if a struggle occurred. My heart goes out to the families. LE will have to question ppl that were close to the female. Has to be connected to someone the female was close to. I hope neighbors can give tips of vehicles or ppl that came around on occasion. I listened to the mother's interview tonight. I think the mother is right on the money with her thoughts. Hopefully this case will be solved quickly. I don't see why the criminals would leave a scale and zip lock bags behind. Sounds like the criminals did a sloppy rush job. If so, that will make this case easy to solve. I'm a little behind on this case. Will have to catch up.

 

[investigate1]

I sold weed when I was a teenager and I used this method occasionally. Usually just the basic sandwich baggie though. And occasionally I'd get something like these at the head shop.

Look at those bags. Although, I don't believe these are the bags that were found in the home. (Not certain). They are saying (if I heard correctly) that a scale was left behind. This means, who ever was selling, was carrying weight.

 

[Hippy Chick]

If the young man didn't have a shirt on and the girl with no pants then it stands to reason they weren't going out to pick this other girl up. Sounds to me like they were home, either in for the night or changing to either go back out or as the mom said to have friends in. What time did Lisa get off from work?

 

[sherlockh]

Seems like the perp(s) locked the door after they left? Very calculated murder IMO. Although I suspect multiple perps, I don't rule out one perp either. If he has a gun (probably) then he can force them on the floor, or even have one tie up the other.

All JMO.

 

[investigate1]

So hurtful to know that: Police said they found nothing alarming on their first check, and nothing to believe that the couple would be in any danger. So they left. My god. The mother that spoke tonight was completely crushed and beyond upset. It's rough to see when ppl do these interviews and always say the same thing. They wish the media would get facts right and be a little bit more sensitive to feelings and emotions.