I am not saying Billy is innocent. I haven't seen his trial but that text of "I got a plan" and him buying the murder truck are two strikes against him already.
George testified that him and Tabbi had a similar document before they split that was hand written. But he also said he made two others besides the one in court, one in 2015 after Tabbi left and one in 2017 or 18 after the murders.
I haven’t seen those before, but I haven’t followed the case so closely before the trial began. I do find it interesting and relevant that AW told a fellow inmate 2 years before JW’s guilty plea, that her boys (plural) did it.
I absolutely agree that the W's and N's raised Billy and Angie to be criminals and in turn B&A raised jake and george to be the same. I also think CN could be put in there also.
Okay
but I also heard George tell Jake he would take little S from him if he was going to put Beth first (because she hugged Beth at the door first). The whole family was all about protecting those kids and George was all in.Too small for me to read. Anyone know how to enlarge the documents?
Maybe because we see some of it in our own or other families we know. I know hubby and my son and GK's are as close as any humans can be. i know a lot of men when they are not working are home with their kid. I know a lot of people who ride to the store together also. I know families that work together e.g. me and my siblings. many families do this in a family business.It’s funny how we hear things differently, isn’t it? You heard George screaming. I did too, it gave me a headache
I also heard George tell his 2.5 y/o son BCI wanted to kill everyone he loved & was going to take him away & give him to bad people.
And I heard a very panicked George call his mother about BCI digging up the farm and I heard him call his uncle/brother/friend to tell him to not talk to BCI. Wonder why?
I also heard George and his mother discuss how Beth was a danger to the family (getting caught) & strategies if they were arrested (several times). I heard Beth testify to hearing them planning what they would do to BCI agents as well as escape plans - albeit one was not a very realistic plan. That bulldozer nonsense still makes me chuckle, I think they were joking about that but pre-planning escapes and threatening BCI agents is not amusing.
You heard George was a loner, I heard testimony George left the house alone, late at night. I heard George hunted (poached) deer - AT NIGHT. I heard George lived full time with Angie, Jake & kids. George himself said when he wasn’t working, he was home with his kid till his kid went to bed. When he was working, he was working — with Jake. I heard testimony from more than one person who lived in the same household that they ALL (including George) went everywhere together. To Walmart, to the grocery, to get gas. Yes, I DO believe George stepped to a different beat, but the testimony & wiretaps show him to be a man who lived with & interacted with his family daily, called his mother several times a day and worked alongside his father & brother. When he did do things independently, the testimony I heard was he did it AT NIGHT after his son (and everyone else) was in bed.
I am not disrespecting anyone’s opinion or position. I’m not trying to talk anyone into or out of their opinion.
What I AM saying is any ONE little thing doesn’t prove him guilty but COLLECTIVELY, there there IS evidence incriminating George and for a few, that evidence continues to be waved off, fully ignored or twisting out excuses.
I listed the above not to be disrespectful or to try to change minds but to demonstrate how differently we absorb information.
Yes, but George already had an attorney working on custody and a judge familiar with the case. If he was really concerned and wanted to make sure his wishes were followed, he would have secured it legally on the same LEGAL path he was already on.
The docket is confusing, but what I gather is he agreed to conspire to murder but changed his mind? IMO
Is the judge allowing this jury instruction or was it denied.
I agree 100%. I've followed this case from the first day and thought all 4 Ws were guilty. Like you Raize it's been the trial that that changed my mind. Lack of any DNA, lack of evidence against George. Another thing for me is Jake and Angie. They are both liars, what was wrong with Jakesfirst proffer, did he say he killed them all himself? AC stated somewhere that Jake made more than one proffer. That sounds to me that she was pushing to get Jake to say GW4 was there with him.
Supposedly we will have to wait. It was filed today. IMO
Me included to get custody of my niece and nephews. How I know a piece of paper signed and notarized means nothing.
Jmo I don’t George’s was necessarily for that night. I think she had George sign a set to back up jakes papers if she needed to use them. She already had a similar set for George. So I think she would have said if anyone questioned, yes both boys signed these when she would need to provide Jake’s if needed. Jmo
