It appears they listened to our earlier advice about getting some help for Prosecutor Canepa.![]()
BettyP, no disrespect, but JMO I very seriously doubt they are watching or acting on behalf of us.
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It appears they listened to our earlier advice about getting some help for Prosecutor Canepa.![]()
Junk said:
"You’re probably going to see a couple of different trial teams,
prosecutors will sort of tag-team the actual trials. "
At Junk’s request Deering has added a second special prosecutor from the Attorney General's office, Robert Pierson. Pierson is listed as a prosecutor on Newcomb’s case and three of the four other Wagner cases currently before the court.
Junk told the Times Canepa still will be part of the cases going forward. He stated he personally will sit in on probably no more than two of the trials,one reason being he has other trials to which he needs to attend.
Investigator suspension unrelated
BCI Agent Mike Trout’s work has no bearing on the pending cases.
Newcomb’s trial moving forward: Junk - Portsmouth Daily Times
Thankx for this informative article. The PORTSMOUTH DAILY TIMES is the best MSM outlet when it comes to summoning up the Wagner Pre-Trial Hearings.
Earlier today I posted some quotes from this article but wanted to thank you for posting the article in the first place....![]()
I would be willing to bet money on which 2 trials he plans to help on.Those capital cases do not include Newcomb, who is not directly charged with the murders.
Both DeWine and later Yost supplied Junk with help in dealing with the cases. Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa has been present at every pre-trial held to date. At Junk’s request, Deering has added a second special prosecutor, Robert Pierson from the Attorney General’s office to the prosecution team.
Junk told the Times Canepa still will be part of the cases going forward. Junk said prosecutors will sort of tag team the actual trials. He stated he personally will sit in on probably no more than two of the trials, one reason being he has other trials besides the Wagner cases to which he needs to attend.
It look like Rob Junk is just going help on 2 of the Wagners trials.
“Over 30 law enforcement agencies inside Ohio and nearly two dozen law enforcement agencies from 10 different states, along with federal partners and Canadian authorities assisted with the Pike County investigation –"
IMO, it was 2 years 7 months from murders to arrests. Dang awesome for 8 murders. To me, this says investigators knew who the perpetrators were early on. There were never any other suspects named, and I think it was because ALL evidence pointed to the Wagners and then proved more and more true as time went along. Look above at all the agencies and the number of officers involved in this investigation. That speaks volumes.
I only have one question for those who sincerely believe the Wagners aren't guilty. WHO do you believe committed these murders and why? And what evidence do you have that supports that theory? I doubt anyone will have the guts to post an answer, but it is a genuine, logical question. TY
Also, I don't see how anyone can stand for both Sheriff Reader and the Wagners/RN at the same time. This is incomprehensible to me. JMO
You mention the investigators knowing who the perpetrators were early on, look at these dates:
What happened May 9th 2017?
Count (19) Unauthorized Use of Property from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their computer networks, cable, phones, which gave access to their social media accounts, facebook, e-mail, search history etc..
https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/26-e7476944fa.jpg
Count (20) Interception of Wire, Oral, Electronic Communication from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their devices/telecommunications so they could commit Count 19.
https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/27-fece5361ef.jpg
Yes 'mam CC, but I think they knew even earlier than this...JMO
Please show Link!Yes 'mam CC, but I think they knew even earlier than this...JMO
State v. Ervin, 2018 Ohio 3451 – CourtListener.com
This is a great example of signatures being "copied and transferred over" to other documents electronically. It is JMO that this is what RN and/or AW did, followed by RN illegally notarizing the documents as if they were signed in her presence. All just my opinion. Remember when AC talked about the dates that were "copied over?"
RN was already involved in a case in Adams, Clark and Madison counties when she actually became a suspect in the Rhoden/Gilley case. THIS WAS ATTESTED TO BY Judge Deering in one of the hearings which I do not have the link to at this time, so being posted as MOO, but I know others remember it. BTW, this incident and these counties are referenced in the above court entries, which are now filed UNDER SEAL. JMO
BettyP, no disrespect, but JMO I very seriously doubt they are watching or acting on behalf of us.
It appears they listened to our earlier advice about getting some help for Prosecutor Canepa.![]()
Glad to see this. They POSSIBLY had this in mind from the beginning feeling confident that Canepa, et al would/could handle the pre-lims, JMO
You mention the investigators knowing who the perpetrators were early on, look at these dates:
What happened May 9th 2017?
Count (19) Unauthorized Use of Property from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their computer networks, cable, phones, which gave access to their social media accounts, facebook, e-mail, search history etc..
https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/26-e7476944fa.jpg
Count (20) Interception of Wire, Oral, Electronic Communication from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their devices/telecommunications so they could commit Count 19.
https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/27-fece5361ef.jpg
Friday, April 28, 2017
11:35 am - James Manley finds and removes tracking device and destroys it
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/
Wednesday, May 3, 2017
PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Jake and Angela Wagner
Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
Approx. May 5, 2017
Jacob Wagner asks ___ Brown if he can store some trailers on his property. He tells him his farm is sold and he and his brother have found good paying jobs up north and are moving there. He needs to move out of farm for new owners. JW drops off 3 trailers at the Brown property a week before the search
Warrant: Investigators put GPS tracker on truck of Rhoden victim's brother
Monday, May 8, 2017
PCSO/BCI conducts audio interview with George Wagner III
Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
Tuesday, May 9, 2017
Jake Wagner stopped his activities related to intercepting, wire, oral or electronic communications, per Count 20 of his Indictment
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx
May 10, 2017
BCI search at 260 Peterson Rd
From the timeline:
Something happened in those interviews. JW stopped his wiretapping when they moved out of the Peterson Rd. farm. Recall on June 8, BCI searched the trash at the Jackson Days Inn, so we might assume they temporarily moved to the Days Inn before hitting the road.
Maybe they asked questions about the type and brand of device he uses to access the internet. That phone he lost after the murders? Or some question that tipped him off they might be on the trail of his snooping.
So what was the date they packed up and moved to Bever-lee, er Alaska? I looked through several pages of the timeline thread. Is there more than one timeline thread? Not important I guess, just curious if it was soon after that interview. I suppose putting the house up for sale might be the first move, and closer to that interview.
IMOMOO, something about that interview set their heads on fire.
I still remember the quote from a LEO, ".... I guess you dye your hair and move to Alaska." Wonder what the date of that article was?
BettyP, no disrespect, but JMO I very seriously doubt they are watching or acting on behalf of us.
You mention the investigators knowing who the perpetrators were early on, look at these dates:
What happened May 9th 2017?
Count (19) Unauthorized Use of Property from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their computer networks, cable, phones, which gave access to their social media accounts, facebook, e-mail, search history etc..
https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/26-e7476944fa.jpg
Count (20) Interception of Wire, Oral, Electronic Communication from July 1st 2014 through May 9th 2017.
Hacking into their devices/telecommunications so they could commit Count 19.
https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/27-fece5361ef.jpg
From the timeline:
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/
Wednesday, May 3, 2017
PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Jake and Angela Wagner
Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
Approx. May 5, 2017
Jacob Wagner asks ___ Brown if he can store some trailers on his property. He tells him his farm is sold and he and his brother have found good paying jobs up north and are moving there. He needs to move out of farm for new owners. JW drops off 3 trailers at the Brown property a week before the search
Warrant: Investigators put GPS tracker on truck of Rhoden victim's brother
Monday, May 8, 2017
PCSO/BCI conducts audio interview with George Wagner III
Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
Tuesday, May 9, 2017
Jake Wagner stopped his activities related to intercepting, wire, oral or electronic communications, per Count 20 of his Indictment
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx
May 10, 2017
BCI search at 260 Peterson
https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/20b6zw25c06qn5xt/images/26-e7476944fa.jpg
Something happened in those interviews. JW stopped his wiretapping when they moved out of the Peterson Rd. farm. Recall on June 8, BCI searched the trash at the Jackson Days Inn, so we might assume they temporarily moved to the Days Inn before hitting the road.
CC, in MY OPINION, May 9, 2017 is when the Wagners unhooked all their physical wire interceptions, etc. and left. Thus, the reason for the ending date on those two charges.
I don't know what put them in such a hurry, but I believe it tied to James Manley's arrest, based on the timing. JMO
Also, very few of the search warrants were made public. I don't think we have a date of the Bethel Rd search?
All just my opinion.
Loomis, with all due respect to both you and Betty, I interpreted Betty’s statement that the State of Ohio cares about our opinions and follows our guidance just like the football coaches and refs listen to my advice through the TV. Lol. It sounds good be they do what they wanna do.