almond
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This is just a clip, Raisin. I think.I missed the entire thing. Wonder if it will be put somewhere later so those of us who missed it can watch it?
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This is just a clip, Raisin. I think.I missed the entire thing. Wonder if it will be put somewhere later so those of us who missed it can watch it?
This is a quick clip of just the beginning and the dismissal.I missed the entire thing. Wonder if it will be put somewhere later so those of us who missed it can watch it?
There is a video on You Tube but the sound isn't good. You can still hear stuff, if you want to check. I'm trying to find a better copy.I missed the entire thing. Wonder if it will be put somewhere later so those of us who missed it can watch it?
He did not need any documents to get custody after the murders. All he would need is proof he was the father. Proof he was the only man that accepted her as his daughter and that he was the person she considered her father may have been enough.
I’m sure she is sorry, this is a sad situation when living in a small town. Even though RN didn’t commit the murders, the dark cloud will always follow her. There will always be those who will whisper and point fingers. I don’t think RN new anything about the murders and I strongly believe that she would not have participated and more than likely tried to stop it had she known. She definitely needs to stay away from FW. Surely they understand that today’s guilty plea may have put her in danger. My opinionI saw Rita look back at the family, before the hearing started, and after it was over she put her hand lightly on Mrs. R's arm, at the doorway, when she was leaving. I believe she wanted to say she was sorry. Then again, I may have too much empathy.
Did they do a dna test at the custody hearing, after the murders, Rsd? I would think it would be required but all I've heard about are photos, and a hammertoe.A quick dna test would prove that too. Did he have doubts but didn't want to risk losing her with a dna test because he'd "accepted her as his daughter and that he was the person she considered her father"?
BBM You've got my mind in over drive, Betty. Why do you suppose Gerlach would want her to talk to FW?Honestly, I don't think she would. MOO. But I think its possible Gerlach wants her to talk to FW.
RN should steer clear of any of the W's for the near future. FW probably isn't happy about RN's agreement.
After the dismissal, AC spoke to Rita briefly and then patted her on the back and...if my lip reading is correct...AC said something to Rita to the effect That everything will be all right.I’m sure she is sorry, this is a sad situation when living in a small town. Even though RN didn’t commit the murders, the dark cloud will always follow her. There will always be those who will whisper and point fingers. I don’t think RN new anything about the murders and I strongly believe that she would not have participated and more than likely tried to stop it had she known. She definitely needs to stay away from FW. Surely they understand that today’s guilty plea may have put her in danger. My opinion
I wonder what FW is doing this afternoon?
RN said she felt its not a good Christian thing to lie. Her change is voluntary, plea of guilty.
Says no one has promised her anything for pleading guilty to reduced charge.
Not surprising that AW would do that.
Gerlach wants a copy of something. Audio of agreement? IDK
If docs were notarized, RN still did that in a fraudulent manner. State is dropping that charge, though as part of the deal.
JMO FW payed GerlachBBM You've got my mind in over drive, Betty. Why do you suppose Gerlach would want her to talk to FW?
Do you know if FW keeps Gerlach on a retainer? I can't imagine why Fred would pay for Rita's defense.JMO FW payed Gerlach
Did they do a dna test at the custody hearing, after the murders, Rsd? I would think it would be required but all I've heard about are photos, and a hammertoe.
IANAL, but in moo, RN will not have much more to add unless she heard the W4 say where things were hidden. She is not able to travel cuz she has no transportation so any info she has to give would be heresay. Heresay may be enough for probable cause for warrants but cannot be used in court. Therefore I don’t see much more to be gained unless RN could divulge where things may be hidden. She could testify in court that those are not her signatures and maybe that she loaned her stamper (more likely that she “left it” at AW’s) but she won’t be able to say AW forged them if she did not witness it. Even if AW told her directly that she did it then it would still be heresay. JMOO.
Thank you for the info, CC!Here's an article mentioning Jake and CG taking a DNA paternity test:
Pike County: 'That's all we've got left. Just those kids.'
"..No father's name is listed on her birth certificate. Family and friends say her mom had been in three on-again, off-again relationships during the time in which Kylie was conceived. And two of those men said they will take paternity tests, perhaps as soon as this week, to determine paternity. They both want to raise the baby girl.
Jake Wagner, 23, said there's a 50/50 chance he's Kylie's father. He and Hanna Rhoden dated for nearly three years before they welcomed her half-sister, Sophia, now 2 1/2 years old. If Wagner is her father, that would mean her half-sister would become her full sister.
Charlie Gilley, 21, has never held Kylie. But he aches to, he said. He's seen pictures of her.
"Have you seen her photo? She looks just like me,'' he beamed. "Don't you think?"
He, too, has hired a lawyer. And just like Wagner, he is awaiting the material needed to have his DNA tested to establish paternity.. "
I'm not sure which signatures were forged - whether it was RN's on the notary docs or HMRs on the custody/guardianship docs. JMO, it was the latter and RN notarized the fake signature. That's the way I heard it, but ICBW.
Either way, I hope RN is safe in the coming weeks and months. Even though the 4W's are locked up, FW is still out.
I was a little unnerved when Gerlach enthusiastically asked the Judge if it would be ok for RN to have contact now with Fredericka, as if they wanted to get together right away. I think he was shocked when the Judge said 'No'.