I was looking for a photo not just a video, so thankx. Looks like the LE officer is sticking his arm in trying to pet the horse. Guess he likes horses.
Isn’t that RW?
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I was looking for a photo not just a video, so thankx. Looks like the LE officer is sticking his arm in trying to pet the horse. Guess he likes horses.
Isn’t that RW?
Yes, I'm pretty sure it is her. Looks like the black cowboy hat she has had in the courtroom and looks like a camo jacket when the picture is enlargedIsn’t that RW?
I was looking for a photo not just a video, so thankx. Looks like the LE officer is sticking his arm in trying to pet the horse. Guess he likes horses.
When Billy was arrested, was he driving a Wagner Trucking vehicle? I seem to recall this from the body cam footage.
All apologies, just a horse-related question I have.
BBM--I wonder if it was cancelled because of the ballistics evidence that was brought to light at the hearing on June 22 (I think it was JW's hearing, if not then BW's). BW's attorney has complained about there being too much discovery material to dig through. I think it is possible his attorneys didn't realize the prosecution has evidence of the bullet casings with matching firing pin impressions found on both Wagner-owned property and two of the crime scenes on UHR.
IMO, FW has been badgering BW's attorneys and GW4's attorneys to get them out on bail because she needs them to help on her farm--or because she wants them out so they can "disappear" (i.e., the infamous revenge/escape discussions). I think BW's team filed the request for bond reduction in order to appease FW and get her off their back, but his team was thrown for a loop when the ballistics evidence was revealed. Maybe this new evidence was enough proof to BW's attorney that going forward with the bond reduction hearing would be a waste of his time, and he in turn could use that evidence to put a handle on FWs meddling. However, I think she will continue to try to control every aspect of BW's case no matter what evidence is presented and will try to strong-arm his attorney to get what she wants--her son out of prison for the rest of his life.
Just my opinion.
Okay - never mind - I DO see it in the post I just did....
Upon the agreement of the parties, it is hereby ORDERED that the State of Ohio shall specify to counsel for the Defendant any and all "other acts" evidence that the State of Ohio intends to use at trial in this action pursuant to Rule 404(B) on or before September 8, 2020.
so - not an actual "hearing date".
Okay - never mind - I DO see it in the post I just did....
Upon the agreement of the parties, it is hereby ORDERED that the State of Ohio shall specify to counsel for the Defendant any and all "other acts" evidence that the State of Ohio intends to use at trial in this action pursuant to Rule 404(B) on or before September 8, 2020.
so - not an actual "hearing date".
Chris grew Marijuana. Early on in the investigation it was said his plants were grade A. Meaning he would always have business. I’m not sure about the recreational laws regarding the use of marijuana in Ohio, but I believe it was still illegal in 2016. I seriously doubt Sr borrowed money from FW in any regard to fund any of his endeavors. Moo
Chris grew Marijuana. Early on in the investigation it was said his plants were grade A. Meaning he would always have business. I’m not sure about the recreational laws regarding the use of marijuana in Ohio, but I believe it was still illegal in 2016. I seriously doubt Sr borrowed money from FW in any regard to fund any of his endeavors. Moo
Since 1975 possession of up to 100 grams has been decriminalized, however. Several of the state's major cities have also enacted further reforms. Medical use was legalized in 2016 through a bill passed by the state legislature. The first legal sales of medical cannabis occurred in January 2019.
Don't guess sales would mean legal grow.
Deleted by meI was looking for a photo not just a video, so thankx. Looks like the LE officer is sticking his arm in trying to pet the horse. Guess he likes horses.
Just posting some good links and information.
Please see Evidence Rule 404 (B).
Rule 404 - Character Evidence not Admissible to Prove Conduct; Exceptions; Other Crimes, Ohio R. Evid. 404 | Casetext Search + Citator
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IMO, this is how the prosecution intends to use the evidence against the Wagners, rather than against their character. (BBM)
"It may, however, be admissible for other purposes, such as proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, or absence of mistake or accident."
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JMO, lastly, the following paragraph appears at the end of every Discovery document presented by the prosecution to the defendents, meaning the defense has already been put ON NOTICE of the State's intent.
(BBM)
NOTICE OF INTENTION TO USE EVIDENCE
The prosecution, in accordance with Rule 12, Ohio Rules of Criminal Procedure, hereby informs defendant of the general intention to use all discoverable evidence pertaining to this case as set forth by Rule 16, Ohio Rules of Criminal Procedure. The prosecution will permit discovery of this evidence in accordance with Rule 16, Ohio Rules of Criminal Procedure. Additionally, pursuant to Evidence Rule 404 (B)(1)(a), the State hereby serves notice of its intention to use other acts, herein disclosed, for any of the purposes specifically allowable under Evidence Rule 404(B).
BBM
Here are some Motions that show the Defense will try to keep out "other acts" that the Wagner's committed.
Jake:
"..As one example of the motions argued Tuesday, defense attorney Gregory Meyers asked the court not to allow the prosecution to mention his client’s alleged previous behavior during his murder trial.."
DEFENDANT'S MOTION #23 MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
"..There is some evidence Mr. Wagner was violent with one of the victims prior to the murders,” said state Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa, seemingly indicating the prosecution wants to present that alleged incident as part of the case against Wagner.."
"..The prosecutors wrote that messages from Hanna Rhoden to other family members discussed violence she had endured from Jake Wagner.."
Billy:
"..The prosecutors also referred to an incident a few weeks before the murders that Local 12 had reported on previously in which family members claimed Billy Wagner and Christopher Rhoden had been in a physical fight.."
01/17/2019 (26) MOTION FOR DISCLOSURE OF OTHER ACTS EVIDENCE
GW4:
MOTION NO. 15: DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
Angela:
(33) DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed
Past suspect behaviors, grisly murder scene photos may play parts in Rhoden trials - Portsmouth Daily Times
https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...MOo-LnDSVbHAEnGldPIH-UJ1ODl3duJ3N3*LuX6vqCa4A
BBM
Here are some Motions that show the Defense will try to keep out "other acts" that the Wagner's committed.
Jake:
"..As one example of the motions argued Tuesday, defense attorney Gregory Meyers asked the court not to allow the prosecution to mention his client’s alleged previous behavior during his murder trial.."
DEFENDANT'S MOTION #23 MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
"..There is some evidence Mr. Wagner was violent with one of the victims prior to the murders,” said state Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa, seemingly indicating the prosecution wants to present that alleged incident as part of the case against Wagner.."
"..The prosecutors wrote that messages from Hanna Rhoden to other family members discussed violence she had endured from Jake Wagner.."
Billy:
"..The prosecutors also referred to an incident a few weeks before the murders that Local 12 had reported on previously in which family members claimed Billy Wagner and Christopher Rhoden had been in a physical fight.."
01/17/2019 (26) MOTION FOR DISCLOSURE OF OTHER ACTS EVIDENCE
GW4:
MOTION NO. 15: DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
Angela:
(33) DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS
AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed
Past suspect behaviors, grisly murder scene photos may play parts in Rhoden trials - Portsmouth Daily Times
https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...MOo-LnDSVbHAEnGldPIH-UJ1ODl3duJ3N3*LuX6vqCa4A
Well, they will need a lot of luck to win that. It's extremely unlikely there are any murder cases where a man who killed his partner was successful in suppressing evidence of his previous instances of violence against her.
Meanwhile, they should stop violating Judge Deering's gag order by revealing details about evidence in the murders prior to jury selection and start of the trial.
Yes! I'm surprised more is not under seal away from the public. Even if the Defense knows that maybe most of what they want to suppress will be allowed at trial it still needs to be filed and on record or maybe it would get mentioned on appeal if not filed? Opinion.Well, they will need a lot of luck to win that. It's extremely unlikely there are any murder cases where a man who killed his partner was successful in suppressing evidence of his previous instances of violence against her.
Meanwhile, they should stop violating Judge Deering's gag order by revealing details about evidence in the murders prior to jury selection and start of the trial.