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PIKE COUNTY, Ohio —

A town woke up one morning to the horror that eight people were brutally killed. The Rhoden family suffered an unthinkable loss eight times over on one late April night in 2016. And years would go by before an arrest was made, and the massacre of an entire family still haunts Pike County, Ohio to this day. On April 22, 2021 Edward Jake Wagner pleads guilty and agrees to testify against family members.

PRESSER: APRIL 27, 2016

Video Interview with Attorney General DeWine Published 8-13-16


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First article says GWIV got tattoo "after the killings".

Second article says, "months before the murders".


I think it might make a difference which is accurate. If awhile before it could possibly be argued that cousin GR was a recent wildcard and wouldn't gave been counted as being there ahead of time.


If after, well that to me would be more damning.
"Hagaman said George got a tattoo after the killings. It features a skull, eight ball, and the so-called "dead man's hand" of cards showing aces and eights. Wagner's defense team called that "speculative" in relation to the murders."



"Hagamen then stated to the prosecution that George got tattoos of four aces and eights, symbols of the dead man’s hand, months before the murders. He also had tattoos of skulls and an eight ball.
It is speculated by BCI that the eight ball connects to the eight members of the Rhoden family."




There were more than 8 they knew they might kill. CH sleeping on HR's couch, and Chris Jr. often had friends of his spend the night. They said Gary was killed only because he was staying at Chris's and that they had no problem killing him just for being there.

Then we know Kendra and her boyfriend could have stayed at HR's and we know Miranda G almost spent the night with her sister HG, and on top of that Donald Stone said he was going to stay with Kenny but then stayed with his girlfriend.

Had that many people been around, due to the cars parked there and spying through the windows and maybe phone calls etc... They may have put it off. But they say HG was only killed because she was there so we know they didn't care about killing witnesses.

Here is what Canepa said in her opening:

03:22:29:05 - 03:22:59:09

Speaker 2

AND BASICALLY THE CONCEPT I TOLD YOU ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW IT WAS THE WAGNERS THAT HAD COMMITTED THESE OFFENCES and that they would, you get arrested or punished for committing the offenses as a result. The fifth specification is that it was a part, of course, of conduct involving the purposeful killing of or attempt to kill two or more persons.

02:38:44:12 - 02:39:28:06

Speaker 2

And then, like I said on site, kind of that Kenneth got added on to that or after they had already agreed to their main targets. AND AGAIN, JAKE WILL TELL YOU FREELY THAT THEY KNEW THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE THERE AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY WOULD KILL THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PERFECTLY INNOCENT. He will tell you that they started making plans for this thing in about in January, which was, you know, a month after they had read that comment by Hannah May that they will have to kill me first.

And like I said, (Jake confirmed) that George would have shot little Chris if he came out of the room and that he was wearing the size 11 shoe that night after they were done at Kenneth, they drove back up to Chris's they left Chris's truck there and got in the vehicle that they had purchased from Silas Wagner and drove back to Peterson Road, where they kind of just everything they did right, the park, the truck in the barn, they got out of those clothes.

03:00:33:19 - 03:01:01:28

Speaker 2

That's where they had George pull off. He was kind of a lookout slash getaway driver in the event that things went bad again. They were driving Chris's truck right up to Kenneth's driveway. Kenneth had electric sensor. His daughter would tell you that if he had taken his blood pressure medication. He's a very heavy sleeper and that's only thing she can guess as to why he didn't wake up.

03:01:01:28 - 03:01:45:09

Speaker 2

But his door is unlocked when he's sleeping inside of it because he padlocks it. When he leaves it. So the padlocks on the outside, not on the inside. And Jake states that Billy entered that residence and he claims he saw a flash of light and that Billy killed him with the 40 caliber Glock. At that point, there again was cameras to remove at that location because he had a kind of a mini grow and they did that and removed a trail cam from a tree as well.

02:58:23:09 - 02:59:00:00

Speaker 2

He doesn't believe she (Hanna) recognized him, but she saw him and he shot her. He will tell you that after he shot her, he rearranged her body on the bed so that Kiley could nurse if she wanted to. And he will say that he went back into Dana's room and shot her more times because she was making noises. And then he will tell you that he went out of the door that led from Dana's room into the kitchen.

02:59:00:20 - 02:59:28:09

Speaker 2

And when he opened the door and his dad was standing there with the 40 drawn probably in a just in case, you know, situation and George was still behind his father guarding little Chris, his room. He will tell you that he then Jake claims that he then went to Little Chris's room and also shot Little Chris, who had never woken up.

02:56:54:23 - 02:57:16:10

Speaker 2

And you will see that that size 11 that I told you that was in scene three at Dana's place is almost exactly where he says that George was stationed to make sure that little Chris didn't come out of his room with a weapon while he was off killing the women in the trailer. And he will tell you that he went into a hallway.
02:59:28:18 - 03:00:02:06

Speaker 2

He was asleep at the time he was killed again.

They thought maybe Chris would have a friend over.


02:50:00:17 - 02:50:36:26

Speaker 2

That's why we have that high powered rifle that is shooting through the doorway and forcing the wood into his skin. Again, you will see that it broke his arm and Billy was still inside of the residence, according to Jake, with the 40 Glock where he shot both Billy and Chris and Gary and they had multiple gunshot. I think Chris Senior had nine total gunshot wounds.
 
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There were more than 8 they knew they might kill. CH sleeping on HR's couch, and Chris Jr. often had friends of his spend the night. They said Gary was killed only because he was staying at Chris's and that they had no problem killing him just for being there.

Then we know Kendra and her boyfriend could have stayed at HR's and we know Miranda G almost spent the night with her sister HG, and on top of that Donald Stone said he was going to stay with Kenny but then stayed with his girlfriend.

Had that many people been around, due to the cars parked there and spying through the windows and maybe phone calls etc... They may have put it off. But they say HG was only killed because she was there so we know they didn't care about killing witnesses.

Here is what Canepa said in her opening:

03:22:29:05 - 03:22:59:09

Speaker 2

AND BASICALLY THE CONCEPT I TOLD YOU ABOUT HOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED WERE COLLATERAL DAMAGE BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW IT WAS THE WAGNERS THAT HAD COMMITTED THESE OFFENCES and that they would, you get arrested or punished for committing the offenses as a result. The fifth specification is that it was a part, of course, of conduct involving the purposeful killing of or attempt to kill two or more persons.

02:38:44:12 - 02:39:28:06

Speaker 2

And then, like I said on site, kind of that Kenneth got added on to that or after they had already agreed to their main targets. AND AGAIN, JAKE WILL TELL YOU FREELY THAT THEY KNEW THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE THERE AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY WOULD KILL THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PERFECTLY INNOCENT. He will tell you that they started making plans for this thing in about in January, which was, you know, a month after they had read that comment by Hannah May that they will have to kill me first.

And like I said, (Jake confirmed) that George would have shot little Chris if he came out of the room and that he was wearing the size 11 shoe that night after they were done at Kenneth, they drove back up to Chris's they left Chris's truck there and got in the vehicle that they had purchased from Silas Wagner and drove back to Peterson Road, where they kind of just everything they did right, the park, the truck in the barn, they got out of those clothes.

03:00:33:19 - 03:01:01:28

Speaker 2

That's where they had George pull off. He was kind of a lookout slash getaway driver in the event that things went bad again. They were driving Chris's truck right up to Kenneth's driveway. Kenneth had electric sensor. His daughter would tell you that if he had taken his blood pressure medication. He's a very heavy sleeper and that's only thing she can guess as to why he didn't wake up.

03:01:01:28 - 03:01:45:09

Speaker 2

But his door is unlocked when he's sleeping inside of it because he padlocks it. When he leaves it. So the padlocks on the outside, not on the inside. And Jake states that Billy entered that residence and he claims he saw a flash of light and that Billy killed him with the 40 caliber Glock. At that point, there again was cameras to remove at that location because he had a kind of a mini grow and they did that and removed a trail cam from a tree as well.

02:58:23:09 - 02:59:00:00

Speaker 2

He doesn't believe she (Hanna) recognized him, but she saw him and he shot her. He will tell you that after he shot her, he rearranged her body on the bed so that Kiley could nurse if she wanted to. And he will say that he went back into Dana's room and shot her more times because she was making noises. And then he will tell you that he went out of the door that led from Dana's room into the kitchen.

02:59:00:20 - 02:59:28:09

Speaker 2

And when he opened the door and his dad was standing there with the 40 drawn probably in a just in case, you know, situation and George was still behind his father guarding little Chris, his room. He will tell you that he then Jake claims that he then went to Little Chris's room and also shot Little Chris, who had never woken up.

02:56:54:23 - 02:57:16:10

Speaker 2

And you will see that that size 11 that I told you that was in scene three at Dana's place is almost exactly where he says that George was stationed to make sure that little Chris didn't come out of his room with a weapon while he was off killing the women in the trailer. And he will tell you that he went into a hallway.
02:59:28:18 - 03:00:02:06

Speaker 2

He was asleep at the time he was killed again.

They thought maybe Chris would have a friend over.


02:50:00:17 - 02:50:36:26

Speaker 2

That's why we have that high powered rifle that is shooting through the doorway and forcing the wood into his skin. Again, you will see that it broke his arm and Billy was still inside of the residence, according to Jake, with the 40 Glock where he shot both Billy and Chris and Gary and they had multiple gunshot. I think Chris Senior had nine total gunshot wounds.
Diabolical...Dana was right, the evil ones
 
Friday, October 14th:
*Trial continues (Day 23) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) & a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 31) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial began on 8/29/22 with final jury selection & the jury was seated on 8/30/22. 12 Jurors & 6 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 6 alternates: (5 women & 1 man). 9/30/22: Ill juror replaced with alternate. 12 jurors & 5 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 5 alternates (4 women & 1 man).
Trial began with opening statements began on Monday, 9/12/22. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).

Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 9/6/22 & Trial Day 1-21 (9/12 to 10/12/22) reference post #764 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-39

10/13/22 Thursday, Trial Day 22: Hearing on whether defense can introduce the 4-5 hour interview with Jake Wagner. If judge doesn't allow it, it will be BCI agent Jennifer Comisford, who interviewed Angela Wagner. Judge denies request to play the recording. Says it could be impeachment later on but not now.
for more info see post #775 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-39
for more info see post #797 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-40
State witnesses: BCI Ryan Scheiderer. BCI special agent Jennifer Comisford, who interviewed Angela Wagner at the Montana border.
for more info see post #798 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-40
State witness: BCI special agent Jennifer Comisford continued.
for more info see post #816 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-41
for more info see post #885 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-45
State witnesses: BCI special agent Jennifer Comisford. Chris Newcomb, Angela’s brother.
for more info see posts #901, 906, 908, 910, 911, 915, 918 & 920 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-46
for more info see posts #1042, 1058 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-53
State witness: Chris Newcomb continued.
for more info see posts #926, 928, 930, 931, 933, 936 & 937 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-47
for more info see post #951 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-48
for more info see post #1029 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-52
for more info see post #1058 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...rs-wagner-family-arrested-76.639523/page-4-53
Trial continues on
10/14/22
 
Chris N. George’s uncle knows deep down in his hart that George is a murder, I just wonder if the prosecution could trust him to testify, myself I don’t think he could have answered the question better! Remember Sleuthers Angela family was scammers also and CN is no angel, JMO
 
Chris N. George’s uncle knows deep down in his hart that George is a murder, I just wonder if the prosecution could trust him to testify, myself I don’t think he could have answered the question better! Remember Sleuthers Angela family was scammers also and CN is no angel, JMO
This is a great point.
 
That BCU interview with Angela was very interesting - when they hit her with the shoe evidence and the casings evidence. What a change in her demeanor.
As for Chris N's testimony - that last question was such a mistake, it really backfired on the defense. I like how the prosecutor started to object and then asked for it to be read back first! Yeah, they definitely wanted the jury to hear that!

I thought he was a good witness, SO nervous though. He really could define the relationship between the Wagner's. The fact that he was so close to George was understandable and you could see that even though he loves George he couldn't excuse anything that was done.
 


Ward changed subjects again, asking Angela whether she ever bought clothing items for her sons or her husband. She said she'd occasionally pick something up for them at Walmart if she saw something they needed; Ward asked about whether she'd buy them shoes.

"No, I don't buy shoes," she said, and explained that was because although she knew what sizes her sons wore, every shoe fit differently.

Agents on the recording showed Angela crime scene photos and pointed out, visible in the images, several shoeprints in blood that investigators knew belonged to the killers. They produced a photo of the Walmart shoes that matched the tread print and asked Angela if the shoes looked familiar. She said no, but she'd maybe seen Billy's father wear similar shoes.

"We have a receipt for those shoes purchased by you," Ward told Angela.

"Ok, well, then I did purchase them," she responded, after a brief silence.

She was shown an image of her captured from surveillance footage at the Waverly Walmart and investigators pointed out that image was taken on April 7, 2016, roughly two weeks before the murders. During that trip, the receipt they collected showed she bought two pairs of the shoes, Ward told her.

Angela was silent, before telling agents she didn't know.

"Are you telling me those are the shoes that was used in the murder?" she asked.

She pivoted and told agents she did buy the shoes for Jake and George, but that any shoes used in the murders couldn't be the same as those, because she'd thrown those shoes in the garbage after her sons refused to wear them. She said her sons called them "old-man shoes," and, despite having told her they wanted sneakers, wouldn't wear them.

When asked when she threw them away, she said she didn't know the exact day.
 

AW "half" brother CN testimony (I believe a few of these were missed from yesterday's tweets).

Jake was picky, adverse to dirt and more content to sit inside playing video games all day than hunt deer or ride four-wheelers, Newcomb said. Before he was allowed to get into Jake's truck, he'd have to remove his boots if they were dirty, place them in a bag and put them in the bed of the truck, he said.


In the Wagner home, things could be tense, Newcomb said. Jake and George often had bruises on them as kids and he said he suspected Billy abused them; When George got big enough to defend himself against Billy, Newcomb said the abuse became more verbal. George argued with his parents all the time, he said; Jake, on the other hand would do anything Angela asked.
 
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