You know what I was just thinking about how complex this case it, but yet how simple it is.
It's simple because they are all connected, one family did this and took out another family.
It's complex because it's rural Ohio, they left no DNA, no video, no cell evidence (as in they left phones at home), no surviving eyewitnesses (other than a 2-3 year old and 2 infants
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Another thing I have been thinking about it the timing of the arrests. I think what they have on the intercepts from Jake and George driving truck will be damning. They made the arrests after those intercepts and before anyone had confessed, so I don't think they would arrest without full confidence they could get a conviction. They waited all this time and were patient so why arrest when they did, unless they finally had something that put them over the edge to thinking, this is it, we have enough.. Then the confessions just confirmed many things they figured out and gave them some additional details they didn't know. I think they both likely make statements that show they have knowledge that otherwise would not be known unless they participated or had first hand knowledge of something (weather that is evidence, purchases made, details of the crimes, etc I don't know).
So because we haven't gotten to that part in the investigation yet where they finally had enough and said this is it.. I'm still trusting what is coming is what is going to show us all what lead them to believe at xyz moment they knew they had enough. Maybe that thing or those things will be what also convince all those doubters here. Why would we expect to have that yet when the investigation didn't have it yet? They are going in order so if at this point they didn't have enough to arrest (because they didn't arrest yet) then that's probably why many are feeling like where is the evidence sealing the deal for George? I think it's coming and it won't necessarily be Jake and Angela. I am ready for that because I want to hear from them exactly what was going on, why, who, where, etc. I also think we will not need them though to have enough to convict. I think what their stories will do is possibly answer any unanswered questions for the jury, it will give insight that the evidence we have doesn't give. It's hard to explain the unfathomable to people that don't think like the Wagner's do. Who better to explain it than the Wagner's.
If the defense is going to be he wasn't there, didn't know, etc. It will be a mistake. If it's going to be he went along to protect Jake, he didn't know they were murdering anyone, or he didn't shoot, etc He should have came forward and confessed and got a deal. I'm starting to believe he was just as invested and I'm not exactly sure what motive he had personally, but I am starting to feel that something in him wanted to do this just as badly. Was it jealousy of Frankie? Was it truly anger for Hannah and Chris Sr. for wanting to take custody of Sophia? I am not sure what it is, but hearing his voice on these tapes and seeing how he gets set off.. my gut is telling me something else was going on with him to give him motive too. I know my gut doesn't mean anything, but just wanted to share. Maybe someone else is having a different view of George after hearing the conversations, after seeing the banking so intertwined too. He is up to his neck in doodoo.