OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#41

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
Do you know anything about some 8 year plea deal mentioned on here for Rita? What is that all about? 8 years? Did she rob a bank too? Supposedly Junk mentioned it and it was over heard?

Link?

I did not hear that. Did you? That would be a huge sentence for her charges, IMO.
I’ve seen local rape or armed robbery cases get less.
Jmo

molly1255 · Jan 10, 2019

I think her outfit resembles something a nun might wear.

Cool Cats said:
Here's a good link to a good youtube video of FW's pre trial.
you tube

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
I did not hear that. Did you? That would be a huge sentence for her charges, IMO.
I’ve seen local rape or armed robbery cases get less.
Jmo

Deleted by me. Got ahead of myself. Raisinisback cleared it up for me. My apologies.

RAISINISBACK · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
I deleted that post to you because I couldn't find the source. Well I just looked again and found the poster who mentioned it.

Pg.5. RAISINISBACK (replying to JayeJayehilltop regarding Rita.)

"Go back to where her attorney and Junk walked into the back room. They were talking about a sentence of 8 years."

Yes. That is crazy. Violent first time offenders get less.

They mentioned an 8 year sentence but I was unable to hear if it was for Rita or for someone else. That is why I asked other posters if they heard it and were they able to make out if they were talking about an 8 year plea deal for Rita. Sorry for any confusion.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
I deleted that post to you because I couldn't find the source. Well I just looked again and found the poster who mentioned it.

Pg.5. RAISINISBACK (replying to JayeJayehilltop regarding Rita.)

"Go back to where her attorney and Junk walked into the back room. They were talking about a sentence of 8 years."

Yes. That is crazy. Violent first time offenders get less.

Oh, maybe about the person in the hospital, or something.
I can’t imagine her atty having casual convo about a plea.
She can’t plea until he has discovery, imo. That would be unusual. How would she know what they have? Jmo

Loomis124 · Jan 10, 2019

Betty P said:
@tlcya

@Tricia

Hi, Tlcya and Tricia! I've posted our latest timeline in the case above for reference.

Next time we start a new thread, will it be possible to add some different links (including one to the timeline) in the original post? We're also putting together an updated case summary page.

Thanks so much for your help! Please let us know how we can help. We know you're all very busy.

Betty P said:
JMO, it's less important about whether the vendor followed the rules in selling BPV's to her. It's more about when and why and who purchased them and why she lied about her son and grandson owning them.

Of course her atty is trying to say she is hard of hearing and didn't understand their question. "Ma Barker" Fredericka is pretty savvy. JMO

IMO, she had better be buying the best hearing aid she can. I seriously can't see her going to a GJ trial without one. JMO

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Loomis124 said:
IMO, she had better be buying the best hearing aid she can. I seriously can't see her going to a GJ trial without one. JMO

She already went before GJ

Betty P · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
AW is not a convicted felon. Case dismissed, lack of speedy trial.

Wonder if Rob Junk regrets that....

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Betty P said:
Wonder if Rob Junk regrets that....

Did you take the comment about the vests found in a bedroom at Fred’s to imply a “son” was living with her?

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
Oh, maybe about the person in the hospital, or something.
I can’t imagine her atty having casual convo about a plea.
She can’t plea until he has discovery, imo. That would be unusual. How would she know what they have? Jmo

I agree. This must be a misunderstanding. Unless we can hear it ourselves I would consider it rumor/misunderstanding.

Betty P · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
She already went before GJ

It seems like a desperate ploy by her attorney. Junk and GJ would have made certain she could hear what they were saying before questioning her. But hey, that's what the atty is paid for: to help throw out a lot of red herrings.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Betty P said:
It seems like a desperate ploy by her attorney. Junk and GJ would have made certain she could hear what they were saying before questioning her. But hey, that's what the atty is paid for: to help throw out a lot of red herrings.

What?

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
I agree. This must be a misunderstanding. Unless we can hear it ourselves I would consider it rumor/misunderstanding.

Iirc, most of her charges have very little sentences, if convicted. I would need to pull up indictment to be certain. Concurrently, I’m guessing a year, minus time served on house arrest. Jmo
Fines will apply, imo. Not time.

Loomis124 · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
She already went before GJ

Yes, but her attorney said she may not have heard the question correctly because she can't hear well. He was referring directly to the question she is accused of lying to the GJ about (in July). This was from her pretrial hearing today.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Loomis124 said:
Yes, but her attorney said she may not have heard the question correctly because she can't hear well. He was referring directly to the question she is accused of lying to the GJ about (in July). This was from her pretrial hearing today.

Oh, you meant she would have or should have had a device at that time? Idk if she has a hearing issue, it’s been suggested on here G3 & 4 might. I think some assume they do because of their demeanor during hearings.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

G3 appears 01/17

RAISINISBACK · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
I did not hear that part.
Today?
Or, about the revenge talk?
Iirc, that took place in her home, was it said she was there?
Tysm

About the revenge talk, yes, FW is being accused of having been there. Prosecutor: "on at least one occasion...in which she was present along with her now capitol crime defendants (the 4 Wagners.)

... The State does have concerns about her participation in those conversations and potential efforts coordinating any of those sorts of efforts".
(Revenge/Escape)

And the prosecutor said "she discussed at length her Grand Jury Testimony with the 4 capital crime defendants."

RAISINISBACK · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
I agree. This must be a misunderstanding. Unless we can hear it ourselves I would consider it rumor/misunderstanding.

In post # 104 I explained what went on. Please read so I do not have to keep explaining. Thank you.

RAISINISBACK said:
They mentioned an 8 year sentence but I was unable to hear if it was for Rita or for someone else. That is why I asked other posters if they heard it and were they able to make out if they were talking about an 8 year plea deal for Rita. Sorry for any confusion.

Sleuthinsleuther · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
Did he say in her son’s room?
Yes, snug fit is necessary, imo.
Really, BPVs are not uncommon, people might be surprised how many own them & for what purpose.
During hunting season, I’m almost paranoid to walk out my door w/o one, if I’m at my vacay home in MI.

Lying about her son owning a bullet proof vest is not related to the murders and it’s not even illegal to own a vest. What am I missing here? Unless there’s victim blood on the vest, then they don’t have a too lot on FW

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