OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#41

RAISINISBACK · Jan 10, 2019

Jayejayehilltop said:
I need to go back to the video

Go back to where her attorney and Junk walked into the back room. They were talking about a sentence of 8 years.

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Jonas_Klein said:
Hi. I missed the info about the BPV. When was it revealed? Do you have a link please?

Here's a good link to a good youtube video of FW's pre trial.
you tube

Betty P · Jan 10, 2019

RAISINISBACK said:
She's in the courtroom right now.

Camera is on the door right now. If there was news during FW's hearing that RN was going to be a no-show today, the news media would have reported that. JMO, looks to me like the hearing is going to happen, just waiting for them to bring her in.

Just speculatin' but she would be a likely candidate to take a plea bargain. She was only marginally involved, is not a blood relation, doesn't look in good health. AW may have told her a lot of stuff.

Her atty just entered the courtroom

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Betty P said:
Camera is on the door right now. If there was news during FW's hearing that RN was going to be a no-show today, the news media would have reported that. JMO, looks to me like the hearing is going to happen, just waiting for them to bring her in.

Just speculatin' but she would be a likely candidate to take a plea bargain. She was only marginally involved, is not a blood relation, doesn't look in good health. AW may have told her a lot of stuff.

Her atty just entered the courtroom

She looks bad. This is taking a toll, imo.
Is there word of a plea? I did not hear that.
Tired of the door/chair view.....

RAISINISBACK · Jan 10, 2019

There is one thing we know Fred lied about. She said they found zilch in their search of FWF. I guess a couple of BPV's are zilch?

JMO

Sleuthinsleuther · Jan 10, 2019

Let’s get this party started!!!

Betty P · Jan 10, 2019

She's in the courtroom now. Attorney talking to her.

Grandmother accused of covering up Pike County murders in court

Camera on her son.

Here comes the judge

Discussing something about a transcript. Perhaps the one

Recd request for Bill of Particulars. Speedy trial approved by Junk. would not expire sooner than July 20.
State requesting "no contact" order. Her defense arguing against it. Judge approves "no contact" order for RN.

State will file a motion re gag order in this case.
March 28 10:00 am next pretrial hearing.

Defense arguing RN has a farm with animals she needs to take care of. Wants to allow her to travel 12 miles from her mother to the farm to care for animals. Not a working farm. Her son has been taking care of the animals for now.

State objects to that modification, first heard of it today. Says her son doesn't work anywhere. Hard to document, starts to defeat the purpose of "house arrest".

Son lives next door to her mom. Goes daily to feed the animals 4 horses and 4 dogs and 4 puppies. Son self-employed as a livestock broker. Works from home.

Judge asks him to give most direct route to get there, etc. They will review. No decision today.

Nothing more, adjourn.

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Betty P said:
Why is FW sitting in the gallery of the courtroom with her daughter, as if she's a spectator, not the defendant? It appears FW is the most defiant in the family, assumes the rules don't apply to her. JMO

Better keep an eye on her.

When you come from jail you are escorted into the court house through a back door. When you come from home you just sit in the gallery and wait until your case is called.

Jonas_Klein · Jan 10, 2019

She absolutely needs to go at the farm but does know how many horses left there. That was convincing.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Boy, there seems to be a lot of elderly involved, all the way around. IMO, things needed to be expedited before people start passing away or becoming ill.
Not being critical, only observant.

Betty P · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
When you come from jail you are escorted into the court house through a back door. When you come from home you just sit in the gallery and wait until your case is called.

TYVM Temporarily forgot about that.

Puzzles8 · Jan 10, 2019

RAISINISBACK said:
If LE has the vests, I wonder if they have any marks on them where they were hit by bullets? If so that could be some powerful evidence.

JMO

I'm also wondering what size the vests are and who might have worn them. I'm just guessing here, but I would think that they need to fit very snugly to be effective.
And yes, evidence of bullet marks would be huge. I don't know of any armed horses - you know, the whole opposable thumbs thing...
I think it was Junk that said they were discovered during the "May" raid. I'm assuming that was the big raid in May 2017 with the SWAT team and ambulances.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Betty, upthread did you mention a plea? I’m sorry, audio was horrible for me today. Tysm
What I caught was not indicative of a plea.

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Dudly said:
A convicted felon can't own a BPV. Does that mean BWIII and AW were not allowed to own them? Is that one thing she lied about, possibly?

Ohio does not have any additional body armor laws. In Ohio, any adult can purchase and use a bulletproof vest, unless that adult has been convicted of a felony. Bulletproof vests and all other body armor can be purchased online or face-to-face.

Ohio - Body Armor Law - Can I Own A Bulletproof Vest In Ohio?

AW is not a convicted felon. Case dismissed, lack of speedy trial.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Jonas_Klein said:
She absolutely needs to go at the farm but does know how many horses left there. That was convincing.

Or have her son move her animals to FWF.
Awful, no one lives on the farm, if I heard correctly, yes dogs & puppies live on the farm? That’s sad. Poor dogs.
Horses or cattle are fine but imo, dogs need companionship.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Cool Cats said:
AW is not a convicted felon. Case dismissed, lack of speedy trial.

Tysm I looked for info regarding that case, lol. I thought I had it bookmarked.

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
Tysm I looked for info regarding that case, lol. I thought I had it bookmarked.

type in Angela Wagner without middle name.
https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/eservices/search.page.3.1?x=jI17vIXoOKWQnDXiIAy*pw

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Puzzles8 said:
I also wondering what size the vests are and who might have worn them. I'm just guessing here, but I would think that they need to fit very snugly to be effective.
And yes, evidence of bullet marks would be huge. I don't know of any armed horses - you know, the whole opposable thumbs thing...
I think it was Junk that said they were discovered during the "May" raid. I'm assuming that was the big raid in May 2017 with the SWAT team and ambulances.

Did he say in her son’s room?
Yes, snug fit is necessary, imo.
Really, BPVs are not uncommon, people might be surprised how many own them & for what purpose.
During hunting season, I’m almost paranoid to walk out my door w/o one, if I’m at my vacay home in MI.

Trudie · Jan 10, 2019

Well, not much news today.
Several weeks before F & R appear again.

Cool Cats · Jan 10, 2019

Trudie said:
Well, not much news today.
Several weeks before F & R appear again.

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