OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #12

[dayna769]

6 acres. Sold for $60K on 3.21.16, according to assessor's site. Where is the 120K coming from? Every time I have seen her house mentioned, I have seen the 120, but that appears inaccurate.

Ah, never mind! Looked further.... The other 60 is from an adjacent parcel. I can see where the 120 came from, but if we are splitting hairs, the plot DR's house was on was only 60K.

Well the 2 acres that the house isn't on is not worth 60k either. There is a total of 8 acres there belonging to CR that were purchased on the same day from the same person.

 

[Tillicum]

It has been well established on here, by many posters, through property records, how much he paid for the property. Dayna would you care to weigh in on this? Like I said it had to be valued at or near the selling price.

Why would it have to be valued at or near the selling price? He paid cash didn't he?

 

[sumzero]

Not sure if this helps, but here's a listing of land for sale in Pike County, OH: http://www.landwatch.com/Ohio_land_for_sale/Pike_County

 

[Lindadanette]

I'm local but the link doesn't work?

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/story/news/local/2016/04/26/first-year-challenge-sheriff-charlie-reader-pike-county-mass-murder

Copy and paste?

 

[dayna769]

It has been well established on here, by many posters, through property records, how much he paid for the property. Dayna would you care to weigh in on this? Like I said it had to be valued at or near the selling price.

I'd be happy to do so.
6 acres including all additions valued at $50200
2 acre lot with tiny barn $2990

Less than $60k for the two properties combined.

 

[MVLM]

Well the 2 acres that the house isn't on is not worth 60k either. There is a total of 8 acres there belonging to CR that were purchased on the same day from the same person.

Property

18-0504.001, 6 acres, sold for $60K on 3.21, county assessment is $50,020.
Property 18-0504.002, 2 acres, sold for $60K on $60K on 3.21, county assessment is $2990.

Dayna, as our resident real estate expert, what are you thinking in regard to CR paying more than double what the assessed value is, in cash? Have you sleuthed realtor ads? Or was this a case of CR approaching the previous owner? ​

 

[ColMustard]

Hello WS, noob here with a first post. My heartfelt condolences to the innocent survivors of this tragedy. Have followed this case since the aerial footage began streaming on day one, and have been reading voraciously ever since. Can't say I'm fully up to speed though, since I've not delved into all facets of every discussion.

Don't make too much of the username, I realize now, Col. Mustard was a suspect, not a sleuth! oops

Not to change the current subject, but there was some discussion earlier today about why the windows were open. If you watch the video linked below, you'll see a closeup of one of the doors with a deadbolt. In order to lock this door using the deadbolt without a key, you would have to lock it from inside and exit some other way. Have not seen this interview posted here yet.

Also note, in the video, AG DeWine states the trailers "may even be shrink wrapped".
http://nbc4i.com/2016/05/12/ohio-ags-office-moving-mobile-homes-in-pike-co-shootings/

I have other burning questions on some other subjects, but will probably have to wait until it's appropriate here or the case is solved. I feel these may be key points in this case.

 

[NWLady]

I'd be happy to do so.
6 acres including all additions valued at $50200
2 acre lot with tiny barn $2990

Less than $60k for the two properties combined.

Thanks dayna! Did the red building get built after the property was purchased by CR or was it already there and included?

 

[RAISINISBACK]

6 acres. Sold for $60K on 3.21.16, according to assessor's site. Where is the 120K coming from? Every time I have seen her house mentioned, I have seen the 120, but that appears inaccurate.

Ah, never mind! Looked further.... The other 60 is from an adjacent parcel. I can see where the 120 came from, but if we are splitting hairs, the plot DR's house was on was only 60K.

Still 60k is nothing to sneeze at and it certainly did not increase the value of this property by removing the trailer IMO. Just sayin

 

[VicVixvi]

Narcotic counts are supposed to be done at the beginning and end of every shift with 2 people. I can't imagine any "pills" going "missing",but hey what do I know?

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The way they do it is by the individual pill. The CNA is given a pill in a plastic cup by the duty nurse to give to patient A. CNA takes a tylenol out of her pocket and replaces the percocet pain killer with the tylenol, gives cup to patient, patient swallows tylenol, CNA pockets percocet.

After they've been on the job a day or three they are aware of which patients have dementia and won't know the difference.

 

[jpo74]

One of the bodies found in the Ohio River in western Ky has been identified as a local suicide victim so she was not thought to be related to the other two deaths, which have not been publicly identified. An unidentified man pulled from the river had wounds consistent with a homicide.

is there a thread for that on WS?

 

[rsd1200]

I actually witnessed a nurse being escorted out of a long term care facility for switching narcotics out for Tylenol! It definitely happens, but these were individual doses, not any kind of a lump sum.

Yes, it does happen, but one normally has to be an RN to get into the medication. I don't think that CNAs, as a rule, give patients their meds.

 

[dayna769]

Thanks dayna! Did the red building get built after the property was purchased by CR or was it already there and included?

Previous owners only paid $30k for it and did the additions. You can see them in property sketch however the photo provided is of 2008. It appears to me that updates were done in 2008, 2010 and 2013.

And to answer another question from the poster before you, I have not sleuthed the previous owners but I do have a suspicion as to why they wanted it and paid more for it.

 

[NWLady]

Property

18-0504.001, 6 acres, sold for $60K on 3.21, county assessment is $50,020.
Property 18-0504.002, 2 acres, sold for $60K on $60K on 3.21, county assessment is $2990.

Dayna, as our resident real estate expert, what are you thinking in regard to CR paying more than double what the assessed value is, in cash? Have you sleuthed realtor ads? Or was this a case of CR approaching the previous owner? ​

Maybe the big red building is being overlooked somewhere. For example, perhaps the assessor site hasn't been updated to include the land having this building on it? I don't know, just a guess...

 

[Baach82]

I have other burning questions on some other subjects, but will probably have to wait until it's appropriate here or the case is solved. I feel these may be key points in this case.

I would love to hear what your other questions are. I have a few myself... please share.

 

[VicVixvi]

That is try if they are found guilty in a court of law. They are deceased so how are they going to try that case?

Google "Civil Forfeiture". The state does not have to even charge you with a crime to take your possessions. All they have to do is "suspect" that the asset was obtained with illegally gained money or through illegal actions. Under CF laws, they charge the property and YOU have to prove that you did not use illegal means to obtain the property.

IMO it is one of the biggest assaults upon our liberties that the government has perpetuated to date.

 

[dayna769]

Maybe the big red building is being overlooked somewhere. For example, perhaps the assessor site hasn't been updated to include the land having this building on it? I don't know, just a guess...

I don't think it's been assessed since 2013. It's not included on the property sketch either so it would seem to have been built after that. It still doesn't explain for the 2 acre lot next to it valued at 3k and sold for $60

 

[MVLM]

I don't believe the trailers were removed with resale in mind, but something to consider: https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...2dbe70-7de1-11e5-beba-927fd8634498_story.html

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Why would it have to be valued at or near the selling price? He paid cash didn't he?

Throwing my hands up in surrender. I guess I am just assuming the guy wasn't stupid enough to pay 60 k for something valued at 1k. But according to you I guess he was and the value just skyrocketed after they moved the residence off it. I stand corrected.

 

[MVLM]

And to answer another question from the poster before you, I have not sleuthed the previous owners but I do have a suspicion as to why they wanted it and paid more for it.

I didn't ask about the previous owners; I asked if you had looked for real estate ads listing the property. I am curious if it was listed, so CR bought it, or if he wanted it and made the previous owners an offer. I am looking for old MLS listings now.