OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #18

[Becky Starkey]

Oops! And thanks!

 

[rsd1200]

There is another possibility for cartel connections to locals. Outlaw motorcycle clubs (gangs). The link below is an FBI report that has information about these connections you can jump to page 18 for some of the good stuff on OMGs.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/national-gang-report-2013


Seeing the picture of KR on his Harley made me think back to my younger days when I would sometimes ride with a couple of Bandidos that were associates of some of the people that I used to ride with.

From what I can tell, it looks like KR probably rode with more respectable bikers, but there would be definitely an opportunity to mix with any local OMG people.


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Thanks I'll take a look. We ride. While we are not 1%ers by no means, we've been to the big rallies, the drags, and the local clubs who put on weekend parties. We mostly putt through the back roads these days. But what you are saying is probably possible. I don't know how much they'd deal w/him though, not being in a club, but, if he went to any of the rallies and such, you could probably hook up w/someone. You see everything from the solo riders like us, to the Christian clubs, to Hell's Angels, at the big rallies.

 

[rsd1200]

I think that the Rhoden's maybe heard " things". Maybe they needed to get out of some trouble. Maybe they informed someone of things and it got back through the pipeline, that they had. Narcing (sp) is a very bad, bad thing in the drug world. And retaliating in a big way is to warn others to keep their mouths shut! (8 murders). If the "officials" knew this person or person's were so dangerous and didn't protect the family in some way, it would explain all the "lockdown" on information about these murders. JMO.

Or if someone knew they were narcing and it would lead to them getting found out. As in upper LE, not necessarily Pike County.

 

[glf]

Wow! The patches come in several different strengths, so he could have taken a really powerful dose. I would think that before long people will have to dispose of these by taking them to the hospital for disposal. Either by placing them in a sharps container or put in haz mat waste. The patches are good for 72hrs, then replaced. There are warnings stating to dispose of properly, so kids or pets don't play with them or chew on them. I use Flector patches, and they have the same warning on the box. And they are nothing compared to fentanyl.

 

[pepper 34]

Yes, I saw that. With all of his priors, he must have been playing informant. He could of even set Higgins up... who knows. I'm not insinuating that Reader had anything to do with it. As far as I'm concerned, my JJ theory still stands. It's just that know I'm also wondering if the Rhodens were expanding operations and if there is a connection.

I know, Lindadanette... now I know. I am new at this site and have to learn not to jump in and make any comments too quickly... before reading what else people have to say between one comment and the next 10 or 20. I'm learning... thanks for your patience.

 

[Cricket99]

You are doing great pepper34. There is a learning curve, right? :welcome4:

 

[pepper 34]

Thank you Cricket, for the welcome. I just have to be more patient and do more reading before commenting. A lot can happen in 2 or 3 pages of comments!

 

[rsd1200]

Thank you Cricket, for the welcome. I just have to be more patient and do more reading before commenting. A lot can happen in 2 or 3 pages of comments!

I too am new here and haven't been on a board like this in years. I get excited when I think of something, and get a bit carried away at times... So, I'm still learning too. I enjoy reading your input.

 

[Mountain Misst]

So team, what is the connection with 21 year-old IJ, apart from the fact he went to school with members of the family? He was pulled up at gunpoint and grilled for 6hours. IMO he is worthy of more interest.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/4-possible-motives-in-pike-county-ohio-murders

 

[glf]

I don't have anything that stands out to me about the 21yr old. I wonder if he was held that long because they were GM hmm MN wanting general info on the Rhoden's. They probably initially thought he might be a suspect, and when they figured out he wasn't, then they probably tried to get info on the lifestyle of the younger members of the family. Personally, I don't think the killers were even close to D &Csr's kids. I would bet my bottom dollar the killers were all 40+ yrs old. And I will think they were hired gunmen from out of town, until someone proves otherwise.

 

[Wampuscat]

Welcome! You make a lot of good points - especially about the drone! That is something I hadn't thought of at all but makes sense. I live in a very rural area and many people have them here. It's not uncommon at all these days, and the good ones have cameras and night vision. Someone committing a crime like this could very easily made use of that tech.

 

[Turnup44]

I still think there's a possibility two of the suspects could be IJ and JJ.

And it's probably either both or none. They live 7 houses from eachother in waverly

 

[glf]

Me again- disregard that DM hmm MN above. Extra fingers must have a mind of their own!

 

[mamamumbles]

Me again- disregard that DM hmm MN above. Extra fingers must have a mind of their own!

Lol I was reading that over and over again trying to figure out how Minnesota got in the mix and what DM and hmm were. Haha!

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[jk204]

I don't have anything that stands out to me about the 21yr old. I wonder if he was held that long because they were GM hmm MN wanting general info on the Rhoden's. They probably initially thought he might be a suspect, and when they figured out he wasn't, then they probably tried to get info on the lifestyle of the younger members of the family. Personally, I don't think the killers were even close to D &Csr's kids. I would bet my bottom dollar the killers were all 40+ yrs old. And I will think they were hired gunmen from out of town, until someone proves otherwise.

What makes you think the killers were hired gunmen from out of town? Possible, but not probable. Killers not familiar with the place and the victims doing the entire operation in the dark?

Why do you exclude a more probable scenario, a person much closer to the family killing by passion or jealousy? You can be jealous at any age, specially in the context of young mother giving birth.

Most family murders are committed by another lone family member or acquaintance. What element in this case rules this out?

 

[WVWoman]

http://www.tristateupdate.com/story/32251354/two-people-dead-after-a-train-vs-car-incident-in-ohio

Pike county is having its share of tragedies. RIP


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[glf]

Granted, the killers might have been unfamiliar with the floor plans in the houses, but they could have had night vision goggles, and too, they could have turned on a light or two. And, some people will leave a light on every nite - ex light above kitchen stove. We got in the habit of doing that when our daughter moved home with a month old baby. I agree that HR could have really upset someone who felt like they were attached to her and the new baby, but I don't think they would have been mad enough to go to 3 other houses and killed all of the members of her "core family". There would have been no reason to kill the others that I can think of. And if it was over the baby, they would have taken her.

 

[bluesneakers]

I've been thinking about this for awhile but hadn't done any research until today. Also I haven't read every post in every thread so please forgive me if it's already been discussed. IMO this possibility is a variation of the drug cartel theory, especialy considering its locations.

Iron Horsemen Motorcycle Club

The Iron Horsemen Motorcycle Club is an outlaw motorcycle club that was founded in Cincinnati, Ohio in the mid-1960s.
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The club now also has chapters in Kansas, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Indiana, California, Kentucky, Maine, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, and New York.
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Law enforcement classifies them as an "Outlaw Motorcycle Gang".

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Two members of the Iron Horsemen were sentenced to five years in prison, and another three were given sixteen years in total on June 26, 2008 for drug dealing. They sold methamphetamine and speed in the Western District of Kentucky between December 2003 and December 2005, and distributed between 50 and 200 grams each. Both the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) were involved in the case.

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One member of the Iron Horsemen was shot in a gunfight with Cincinnati Police on September 18, 2010. Local media reported that a gang member opened fire on several identifiable police officers and 2 undercover officers as they approached JD's Honky Tonk and Emporium escorted by marked police cruisers. The two undercover officers were injured and the gunman that started the incident was killed in the shooting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Horsemen

 

[MaryMac250]

I don't have anything that stands out to me about the 21yr old. I wonder if he was held that long because they were GM hmm MN wanting general info on the Rhoden's. They probably initially thought he might be a suspect, and when they figured out he wasn't, then they probably tried to get info on the lifestyle of the younger members of the family. Personally, I don't think the killers were even close to D &Csr's kids. I would bet my bottom dollar the killers were all 40+ yrs old. And I will think they were hired gunmen from out of town, until someone proves otherwise.

Out of town? Maybe, but not necessarily out of area. I think we still have way too limited information to prove that or any other point. No information does not decrease speculation....it super fuels it.

 

[glf]

I agree! LE could at least throw us a crunch occasionally. No news is going to drive everybody bananas.