OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #27

[RAISINISBACK]

In AK, they would be surrounded by people who speak English as a first language. According to the US census, the city is 72.12% white, 2% Black, 16% Native American, 1.8% Asian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seward,_Alaska

It's pretty far south in AK, with access to a lot of roads, rail, airport, etc. East to get to Washington & the lower 48, which a lot of middle and upper income AK residents do. Probably has a lot of "outdoorsy" culture, good for people who like guns and hunting. So, yeah, probably a good fit for them.

Seward is a port town with hundreds of fishing vessels. You can sit outside on the patios of restaurants and eat king crab freshly caught that morning. It is surrounded by forest on three sides with the ocean on the fourth. The Exit glacier is near there. The Kenai Peninsula is mostly forested and has several glaciers but very few people. there are no logging companies there that I saw. Mostly white population with a percentage of native american mixed in. I wouldn't think they would find much work in the trucking industry there as most fishing vessels are off loaded further north. If they did it would probably be limited to transporting catches to Anchorage. But we have no way of knowing if they stayed there or moved back toward the northeast. Fairbanks is where they would find the most work in trucking I would think. They have regular runs to the Arctic circle and above there. I have tons of photos, but they were taken with an old fashioned camera. I could maybe scan a few and try to post them on here if I can get one of my grandkids to help.

 

[Betty P]

There was a similar drug smuggling ring in Kentucky back in the late 70's & early 80's. It was run by some people who were wealthy scions in the world of horse breeding and racing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_C._Thornton_II

During the late 70's and early 80's, some of them decided to supplement their incomes by smuggling cocaine and weapons. The leader was a wealthy aristocrat and former LE officer. The ring included politicians, a DEA agent, and local businessmen. They owned large amounts of real estate, which helped them hide their activities. There was even an unsolved murder connected to the case, Melanie Flynn. Her body still hasn't been found.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Lexington-25-Jan-1977&highlight=melanie+flynn

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/flynn_melanie.html

 

[ts51]

Read the wikipedia article..sounds like a fictional movie plot, the kind my DH would like to watch. But..the script writers would not have thought of having his body found in someone's backyard (can you imagine the poor man who found him!) and that a black bear would be found in the woods dead from a cocaine OD (sorry, but that made me lol!!!). The saying "truth is strange than fiction" rings true here!!!

There was a similar drug smuggling ring in Kentucky back in the late 70's & early 80's. It was run by some people who were wealthy scions in the world of horse breeding and racing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_C._Thornton_II

During the late 70's and early 80's, some of them decided to supplement their incomes by smuggling cocaine and weapons. The leader was a wealthy aristocrat and former LE officer. The ring included politicians, a DEA agent, and local businessmen. They owned large amounts of real estate, which helped them hide their activities. There was even an unsolved murder connected to the case, Melanie Flynn. Her body still hasn't been found.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Lexington-25-Jan-1977&highlight=melanie+flynn

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/flynn_melanie.html

 

[rsd1200]

It think it's the same stuff generally speaking. But there is a lot more of it and a lot more hands touching it before it gets the the end user. So there is no telling what people are actually buying. I've watched shows where they were talking to street dealers (or whatever) and they actually stated the when people overdose on a certain brand of heroine it actually boost that brand or dealers sales. Drugs take control to the point of hearing this person almost died off x or y and you want it, absolutely nuts.

I don't remember fentanyl or elephant tranqu being in it back then. It may have been but I don't remember it though. I remember really pure forms coming through and folks overdosing on that b/c they weren't used to it but not this stuff it's getting laced with these days. Of course I live in BFE so if it was around it may not have made it here at that time. It's made it here now, unfortunately.

 

[rsd1200]

There was a similar drug smuggling ring in Kentucky back in the late 70's & early 80's. It was run by some people who were wealthy scions in the world of horse breeding and racing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_C._Thornton_II

During the late 70's and early 80's, some of them decided to supplement their incomes by smuggling cocaine and weapons. The leader was a wealthy aristocrat and former LE officer. The ring included politicians, a DEA agent, and local businessmen. They owned large amounts of real estate, which helped them hide their activities. There was even an unsolved murder connected to the case, Melanie Flynn. Her body still hasn't been found.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Lexington-25-Jan-1977&highlight=melanie+flynn

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/flynn_melanie.html

The Bluegrass Conspiracy. If anyone wants an interesting book to read, that is one. Wow! There's a store in Lexington, Ky., called Kentucky for Kentucky, that has the actual, stuffed, "cocaine bear" on display. The story of the bear, and how they came to obtain the bear, (poor guy) is interesting as well.

 

[Betty P]

The Bluegrass Conspiracy. If anyone wants an interesting book to read, that is one. Wow! There's a store in Lexington, Ky., called Kentucky for Kentucky, that has the actual, stuffed, "cocaine bear" on display. The story of the bear, and how they came to obtain the bear, (poor guy) is interesting as well.

Slightly OT, but a story from a railroad I once worked for. After a train derailment when some cars of grain were spilled, the workers encountered "drunken" bears. The grain had gotten wet and fermented after laying on the ground a while. The bears ate the fermented grain and got a buzz. I guess they'll try anything they find in the woods to see if it's edible.

Poor bear. He must have gotten quite an overdose.

That said, it was interesting that many of the wealthy, horse-loving set were involved in that drug ring. The investigation didn't go very far, IIRC, and there were probably many "investors" who were never scrutinized. I wonder if the elder W's had any connection to those in the "old money" Kentucky horse breeder circle?

 

[tlcya]

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