OH - Shawn Michael GRATE: 3 bodies found, Ashland/Madison, Sept 2016

[AF555]

This man lives across the street from where SS's car was found abandoned.

"Phillips said Saturday that while he feels for Stanley's family, he takes issue with criticisms Ron Stanley, Stacey's uncle, made in interviews in which he contended that police didn't work hard enough to look for his niece. Phillips first shared his observations in a letter to the editor that appeared in Saturday's Ashland Times-Gazette.Stacey Stanley was last seen more than a week ago near a BP station in Ashland, after she got a flat tire. Her vehicle was found Sunday near Phillips' house.
Stacey's father "came into my yard and started asking me about the car," Phillips said. According to the Stanley family, Phillips said, "she called to let them know she had a flat tire, but she said that 'this nice man is helping me,' and that was the last time they heard from her."


Plus a flat out lie in the last paragraph...

"Though police managed to get to the house on Covert Court within four minutes of getting the kidnapping victim's call, the 43-second delay involved with the call transfers — during which the woman had to whisper "I've been abducted" to two different dispatchers — "was terrible, I thought."

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com...d-man-police-worked-hard-find-woman/90582386/

 

[AF555]

Super work AF555 and Gardener for the timeline
IF possible, and if it's not too much work, I would love it if we could have a column with link for each entry. Perhaps the source is the same for many of the points but there is a lot of info over many years and it would be great if the source was there so we can access it quickly if/when we need to cross-reference with new cases...

Will do.

Also, I haven't found anything in Houston in 1999 that fits SG. Still looking though.

 

[Betty P]

May be 5 now:



http://fox8.com/2016/09/17/police-i...spects-connection-to-two-more-murders-i-team/

:scared:

Yet there's nothing about a missing woman from Mansfield on the Ohio AG's web site. Apparently, LE isn't reporting very many missing person cases in these small towns & cities.

As noted with the Rhoden family massacre, the state has cut taxes and budgets drastically, so most of these areas have been laying off or not replacing officers. Been going on for more than a decade, so most are very understaffed.



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[Gardener1850]

Here is the timeline in a spreadsheet with a couple of minor changes. If there is anything that needs to be added or fixed as of today, let me know. Otherwise, I'll update it as we learn more about the case.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RTqnBajstB1-h1DXmfiHfoCPEzyYf_aX3-hKHQlPi-s/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you! :tyou:

 

[Dr. Know?]

Given their economy & the towns surrounding where the murders have been, plus 88 counties reporting in the state, each one with their own money woes. Maybe the internet will connect them during all of this. I feel for family members missing a loved one.

There are so many cities and counties in OH compared to 15 total in my current state. Harder to develop the desert areas. Many of the towns weren't even there in OH when we grew up.

 

[rollinginit]

Given their economy & the towns surrounding where the murders have been, plus 88 counties reporting in the state, each one with their own money woes. Maybe the internet will connect them during all of this. I feel for family members missing a loved one.

There are so many cities and counties in OH compared to 15 total in my current state. Harder to develop the desert areas. Many of the towns weren't even there in OH when we grew up.

BBM (part of your post)
YES!! You're right.

Mansfield and Ashland (along with all the other little town names you hear- Wooster, Marion, ..etc) USED to be a huge industrial towns. There were tons of factories and warehouses. A huge GM plant. Now they're all gone and just old buildings are left.


A weird thing happened over the last couple of years. These industrial towns are slowly turning into medical towns. Just to give you an idea- our mall. LOL. Half of our mall is now a huge medical complex. You can literally shop all day then stop off to see your doctor. You can get some blood work done, Xrays, your meds refilled, then walk back into the mall to finish shopping.
They took old fast food places and made them urgent care centers. Our main hospital (Med Central) just got expanded. I don't think I've ever seen so many medical places before. It's kind of crazy. We have a new VA hospital, a cancer hospital, and tons of nursing schools all around. Every time I go uptown, there is a brand new medical place/medical school opened.

Because of all the medical stuff happening around here- other business have started to open or expand. I'm not sure who thought of the idea of changing the whole town, but it's working.

The 911 call- I think Ashland's 911 call system is routed to Wooster. I'm not sure what it all means, but it could explain some of the delay when the victim made the 911 call.
http://www.thepostnewspapers.com/no...cle_3be2af80-41ac-59ef-a725-c4891d0d3fc6.html
I know when I call 911- I got transferred twice. It was so frustrating because I had to explain my mom's medical situation twice.

Ashland has a local paper that is very detailed but unfortunately you have to pay to read. UGH. I'm actually surprised that Mansfield News Journal isn't charging because they usually do.

FYI-One of the best places for local news is WMFD. It's free. They usually post all the press conferences, news, photos, etc.....
Here's the link
http://www.wmfd.com/

I'm trying to find out how many people are missing in this area, but nobody seems to have an actual number. Hopefully this case will encourage relatives that haven't heard from their loved one in awhile to contact police and make a report.

 

[rosie_lee]

She has a sister. Her sister has been asking for help since Elizabeth disappeared. I know when Elizabeth went missing, Kerry (sister's name) came down from Cleveland (I think it was Cleveland) to look for her. Elizabeth had some learning disabilities. Not sure what or to what extent. I feel so awful for her.

One common thing the locals that knew Elizabeth all say "she had the most amazing smile for everybody"


Here's some possible information on the body they did find behind the house and who they think it may be
http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com.../?hootPostID=6102def92bdc5492d20ed4cd06718f5b

If the victim in Mansfield (Richland County) does turn out to be Candice, she is from Stark County. There is no missing persons report listed for her, that I can find. I have checked the online case docket for Stark County and I am not finding any crimes listed for Shawn there, so far. Canton (Stark County) is about an hour drive to Mansfield.

 

[Gardener1850]

I just noticed the landlord not only let SG use his truck but also his CAR:

The landlord was generous to Grate, buying him tools to do his woodworking and sign business.

"He was good," he said of the signs.

Cristman also allowed Grate to drive his truck and his car at various times when Grate said he was going to visit his child. Grate also took the pickup on work runs for Cristman.

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com.../?hootPostID=6102def92bdc5492d20ed4cd06718f5b

So that is another vehicle if we can find out what kind of car it is.

 

[Gardener1850]

Ashland County Jail documents give a look inside the jail cell of Shawn Michael Grates, the Ashland man charged with double murder and kidnapping.

According to the documents, Grate, 40, received no visitors. He is currently being housed in a single-inmate cell and has television and commissary privileges.
Grate is a maximum-security inmate, and is not on suicide watch. According to the jail administrator, Grate’s activities are being monitored by camera every 30 minutes and physically every 60 minutes.
According to Grate’s activity log, he’s watching hours of television, sleeping and was seen reading a Bible.

http://www.cleveland19.com/story/33...spect-watching-lots-of-television-behind-bars

 

[Gardener1850]

OT: I found this article about the heroin crisis in Mansfield, Ohio. This gives some insight into what the small town is dealing with and why authorities may not be quick to file missing person's reports. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/09/05/front-lines-heroin-crisis/89539786/

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

His mom is saying SG has lead LE to a fourth body

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ictims-compares-Ted-Bundy-Jeffery-Dahmer.html

 

[eucalyptuz]

I just noticed the landlord not only let SG use his truck but also his CAR:

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com.../?hootPostID=6102def92bdc5492d20ed4cd06718f5b

So that is another vehicle if we can find out what kind of car it is.

The Mansfield journal has incorrectly spelled the landlord's name...according to property records there is no "t".

 

[Gardener1850]

His mom is saying SG has lead LE to a fourth body

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ictims-compares-Ted-Bundy-Jeffery-Dahmer.html

We discussed a few pages back but thanks for posting again! No one should miss that interview with his mom. The latest is he may be up to 5 bodies per a smaller local paper.

ETA link: http://fox8.com/2016/09/17/police-i...spects-connection-to-two-more-murders-i-team/

 

[Gardener1850]

That fox8 link above says he is admitting to a 2015 death in Mansfield. I wonder if it could be Rebekah Leicy: http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com...still-surround-rebekah-leicys-death/71385276/

Her thread here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...field-27-January-2015&highlight=Rebekah+Leicy

 

[eucalyptuz]

Here is a recent missing person's report posted to SM by someone with a couple of degrees of separation to the case:
https://www.pl8pic.com/Bryttany_Newsome
There is an on-record, known previous address in Toledo for an SG, but I didn't add it to the map yet as I don't have MSM/LE confirmation that it is this SG.

 

[smiley]

If the victim in Mansfield (Richland County) does turn out to be Candice, she is from Stark County. There is no missing persons report listed for her, that I can find. I have checked the online case docket for Stark County and I am not finding any crimes listed for Shawn there, so far. Canton (Stark County) is about an hour drive to Mansfield.

I think it is CC as one of her friends, BS, on facebook made several comments about how could anyone do this, He was crying upset, emotional. So seems CC picked SG instead of BS.

 

[eucalyptuz]

I am so worried: one of the SM profiles for a CC that seems to tick all the boxes, references a 'Shawn', but most worryingly seems to be pregnant in a June 5 photo.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I am so worried: one of the SM profiles for a CC that seems to tick all the boxes, references a 'Shawn', but most worryingly seems to be pregnant in a June 5 photo.

I'm just looking at that. I can only see 2 friends listed though and no BS as someone mentioned upthread. Is it the right page? Seems to be more than one profile for her (or it's a very common name). I think this probably is the girl found in the woods.

 

[eucalyptuz]

I'm just looking at that. I can only see 2 friends listed though and no BS as someone mentioned upthread. Is it the right page? Seems to be more than one profile for her (or it's a very common name). I think this probably is the girl found in the woods.

Yes, there is definitely more than one profile for the same girl. I think her friends list may have once been more extensive as there are likes and comments from people that are not listed. Possibly she has been "unfriended" by many since her disappearance/rumored demise

ETA: It is SB not BS who seems to have been very upset in the last few days...

 

[rsd1200]

I don't rule out male victims but his pattern so far has been females. Appears quite a few fell for his charm. I don't find him attractive at all. Creepy yes, but not attractive. Not exceptionally talented nor did he want to work for a living. Living in an abandoned house isn't exactly the catch of the season. Most likely, they didn't know he was squatting in the house. Lured in.

There is a 17 year old missing in Marion Co. Justin Lovell. Missing since 6/24/2016. A few days after the fire in Mansfield. Endangered Runaway. Can't find much of anything about him.

I'm just hoping there isn't any children involved in his killings. He's had the time to kill quite a few women already.

Have they announced who and how many are handling these cases? One article said they had 8 officers in the department. I believe it was Ashland? BCI should be helping, I'd think. They have to be spread thin with the Rhoden & Gilley family murders, the overdoses on carfentanil/heroin and the Vanishing women. Wow, grew up in OH.

BBM
He's not a homely man though, but the eyes have it. However, charm goes a looooong way, in improving one's looks. The most attractive people, lose their looks pretty quickly, if they have no personality, or are hateful people. His own mother said he could "charm the pants off" of someone.