Found Deceased OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #7 *Arrest*

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jToledo said:
I don't see him getting that close to civilization. Back in the day hitch hikers were convenient for his kind, today he has the power of the world wide web. And/or the power of a business I.D. are there any missing women who possibly went to get their car repaired, oil change....shuttled...
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Your from Toledo, girls disappear here all of the time. Tina Willamson. Everyday another story. Sometimes it seems like nobody cares to look. I do think the passport was most likely for Canadian casinos, and I believe he had willing participants show up. Probably through backpage or Craigslist. I don't think he murdered every girl he encountered and I don't think he went too far out of his comfort zone to find victims.

There is a sick subculture that I had now clue existed until this happened. And it's no 50 shades of grey, really disturbing stuff if you ask me

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Btw, "blood play" and diaper wearing is an actual thing. I have no clue why, and probably don't want to know who would be into it. A quick search even on TT brings up a ton of threads. The world is a scary place.

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I wish we were allowed to discuss the living situation and day to day routine of the people who lived on the property. It is such a fine line between adding insight to the case and what happened and sleuthing family members. How is it that no one who lives there had no clue about the hidden area in the barn? How did no one question his appearance and blood on him or his clothing? Is there was a way we could discuss these things as how they fit into JDW's life without it being considered off limits. I don't mean specifics of what is medical info about them just about the level of care giving they require and if the level of awareness an communication they are capable of.
 
Ginger8915 said:
I don't think he had a "regular schedule". It wasn't a I'm on the road to do pickups at 8, in my shop by 11 and lunch at 1 type of thing. And if he only made $1,000 last year business doesn't sound so well. Granted he was likely lying about income and took jobs under the table, but I doubt he had a set schedule and lots of work.
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Thanks team... Am watching for any mention of a possible alibi that may have taken him away from home during the two days following the abduction.
 
MDATCA said:
I wish we were allowed to discuss the living situation and day to day routine of the people who lived on the property. It is such a fine line between adding insight to the case and what happened and sleuthing family members. How is it that no one who lives there had no clue about the hidden area in the barn? How did no one question his appearance and blood on him or his clothing? Is there was a way we could discuss these things as how they fit into JDW's life without it being considered off limits. I don't mean specifics of what is medical info about them just about the level of care giving they require and if the level of awareness an communication they are capable of.
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Initially, I wondered how someone could live with him or on his property without knowing about the hidden room. However, I started thinking about my bio father and how his own wife would never question him if he told her something was his space and only his space. I assume JDW's mother's husband treated her somewhat like my bio father treats his wife (and any other female) and so it was "natural" for her to hear such rubbish from her own son and obey his wishes.
 
perfectingpink said:
Initially, I wondered how someone could live with him or on his property without knowing about the hidden room. However, I started thinking about my bio father and how his own wife would never question him if he told her something was his space and only his space. I assume JDW's mother's husband treated her somewhat like my bio father treats his wife (and any other female) and so it was "natural" for her to hear such rubbish from her own son and obey his wishes.
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I think especially if he ran his "business" out of the barn, as far as his repairs and what not, he may have kept it locked up if he wasn't in there because he was "worried about theft" which would keep his mother and brother out. Do we know if he was close to his brother? Also, my hubby works all the time, he literally never goes upstairs in our house unless it's a rare occasion where we have to watch the football game in the game room due to bad weather/not being able to watch it outside. I have a pet chameleon in my sewing room he doesn't know is there, and I've had it for about two years now.
 
Dogface said:
I think especially if he ran his "business" out of the barn, as far as his repairs and what not, he may have kept it locked up if he wasn't in there because he was "worried about theft" which would keep his mother and brother out. Do we know if he was close to his brother? Also, my hubby works all the time, he literally never goes upstairs in our house unless it's a rare occasion where we have to watch the football game in the game room due to bad weather/not being able to watch it outside. I have a pet chameleon in my sewing room he doesn't know is there, and I've had it for about two years now.
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You do know how much fun you could have with this.
 
If I could be so bold...
**graphic**
The camera equipment..restraints..holes through wood...and a hood.
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out..
 
froginTtown said:
People actually watch it live...
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note in the search warrant LE took a "GE digital recorder" which is likely a DVR for CCTV system. which you could absolutely stream on the internet live. Just plug in an ethernet cable to the back.
 
froginTtown said:
If I could be so bold...
**graphic**
The camera equipment..restraints..holes through wood...and a hood.
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out..
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This has been my thought from the beginning. Webcams allegedly make a lot of money on the normal web. If you live stream something really demented onto the dark web, the really sick people out there will show and pay. I've learned way too much ocer the last week or so, and that's just what's on the "normal web". There are some really twisted people out walking amongst us.

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If this guy would just plead guilty and save the family from the graphic details that may have occurred..... that would be great....
 
2Hope4 said:
If this guy would just plead guilty and save the family from the graphic details that may have occurred..... that would be great....
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That would require him to be a man and notva child, it also would likely remove the death penalty from the table. The family likely will know anyway, and to be honest I would probably want to know what he did if it was my kid, and the death penalty. I do feel certain things don't need to be made public though because it can spawn others, and some people are just nosey. Unfortunately once you pass the dead no longer have a right to privacy.

I hope he pays with his life, and the appeal process moves quickly and justice is served swiftly. Unfortunately these scumbags have more rights than their victims.

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Ginger8915 said:
This has been my thought from the beginning. Webcams allegedly make a lot of money on the normal web. If you live stream something really demented onto the dark web, the really sick people out there will show and pay. I've learned way too much ocer the last week or so, and that's just what's on the "normal web". There are some really twisted people out walking amongst us.

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By now, LE knows exactly what was on those tapes, digital recording devices, cds, disposable cameras, the hard drive of that desktop pc, etc. What I find rather curious is that they haven't released any kind of statement after saying they are lead to believe Sierah was not his only victim. Leaving the public and the local community still guessing or speculating. It'd be nice if they'd just make a statement toward that end.
 
Ontario Mom said:
By now, LE knows exactly what was on those tapes, digital recording devices, cds, disposable cameras, the hard drive of that desktop pc, etc. What I find rather curious is that they haven't released any kind of statement after saying they are lead to believe Sierah was not his only victim. Leaving the public and the local community still guessing or speculating. It'd be nice if they'd just make a statement toward that end.
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There was so much collected that needs to be analyzed. And receipts to match with journals to match with possible pictures or film. I hate the silence but they are still working around the clock to figure it all out. Since they've been quiet for so long it will be a lot when it comes out.

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Cause of death was asphyxiation. Article in the Toledo Blade this am. And on the Blade's FB page. Would link but I don't have the ability


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seeking the truth said:
Cause of death was asphyxiation. Article in the Toledo Blade this am. And on the Blade's FB page. Would link but I don't have the ability


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Prayers for the family as they hear how she spent her last minutes. She lived a beautiful life and her beautiful smile is what I want to remember about her.

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