GUILTY OH - Steubenville Rape Case, 11 Aug 2012 #2

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I'm relieved to hear about the verdict. Too bad it won't ever change how life will be affected forever for this girl and her family. How is it determined how long they will stay there? Judge said 1yr and 2yrs but said they could keep them until 21...how is that decided?

Now to find some charges for the <modsnip> spouting off in that video saying she was "dead as Caylee Anthony". He is disgusting.

I believe he may be the first one they go after. He knew, he saw, and he didn't do a damn thing. And --- his identity is all over the internet. He can't hide. Nor can he deny.
 
Ok - now on relfecting, here's my question.

How does the immunity that was granted to certain witnesses during this trial affect the Grand Jury? Do they still have that immunity? Or did that immunity only apply to this specific case and NOT to other "crimes" that were committed revolving around the night in question? IOW - failure to report a felony, failure to report child abuse, stuff like that? Will the people granted immunity still be able to "cower" under that umbrella of immunity?

We need to get AZLawyer or Hornsby here to get some clarification.




JMHO
 
Ok - now on relfecting, here's my question.

How does the immunity that was granted to certain witnesses during this trial affect the Grand Jury? Do they still have that immunity? Or did that immunity only apply to this specific case and NOT to other "crimes" that were committed revolving around the night in question? IOW - failure to report a felony, failure to report child abuse, stuff like that? Will the people granted immunity still be able to "cower" under that umbrella of immunity?

We need to get AZLawyer or Hornsby here to get some clarification.




JMHO
I think it depends on what type of immunity they were given. imo

The prosecution may grant immunity in one of two forms. Transactional immunity (colloquially known as "blanket" or "total" immunity) completely protects the witness from future prosecution for crimes related to his or her testimony. "Use and derivative use" immunity prevents the prosecution only from using the witness's own testimony or any evidence derived from the testimony against the witness. However, should the prosecutor acquire evidence substantiating the supposed crime—independently of the witness's testimony—the witness may then be prosecuted for same.
 
Again, for those not watching...

The AG is saying that they will follow the evidence and they don't care where it takes them. They are going after whoever was involved, no matter their position.

I hope this guy sticks to his guns. He seems to be laying this out for them...we are coming, and no one will be immune to investigation.

I'd be surprised if the Feds don't get involved now. Hey boys, put down the donuts and get to work. A girls civil rights were violated and a town tried to cover it up. Numerous Federal Crimes here. Get to work.

According to comments by locals a couple months ago, the FBI/DOJ have already been in town and interviewed a bunch of people. At first they thought the target was Anonymous, but seeing who they interviewed made them rethink the targets. Not saying this influenced state officials into taking further action, but apparently this case does have DOJ's attention.

I missed the reporter's question to AG, but someone is reporting he was asked about Reno specifically. I heard DeWine say "Yes" and refuse to say more, but did anyone hear what prompted that answer?
 
I hope they investigate EW...I firmly believe he took part and he refused a DNA test...MOO...
What did the evidence state...2 unknown specimens of DNA...besides the two charged?...one more out there...
MOO
Has anyone heard anything more?
 
BBM

DeWine said he doesn't know how long the grand jury will take or who might be charged, but he wants to get the process moving as soon as possible. He said there's no limitation of what evidence his office will look at.

The attorney general said his office will also investigate another alleged rape that took place in April 2012. He would not say if investigators believe the cases are connected.

http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/breaking-news-ohio-ag-wants-grand-jury-review-teen/nWtsZ/

I have to admit that DeWine's comments are a pleasant surprise to me.

I gotta wonder what all they may have found while doing a thorough investigation of social media/texts.
 
Any footage of the rapists bawling like babies?


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Clearly Ohio authorities do not have the power to grant immunity for the Federal Crimes committed here. This has only just began.
 
Jane Doe's mother:

"It did not matter what school you went to, what city you lived in, or what sport you've played. Human compassion is not taught by a teacher coach or parent. It is a God-given gift instilled in all of this. You displayed not only a lack of this compassion but a lack of any moral code. Your decisions that night affected countless lives including those most dear to you. You were your own accuser through social media you chose to publish your criminal conduct on. This does not define who my daughter is. She will persevere, grow, and move on.

"I have pity for you both. I hope you fear the Lord, repent for your actions and pray hard for his forgiveness," she concluded.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...s-in-steubenville-high-school-rape-trial?lite

Videos at the link have some of the pathetic sobbing by the <modsnip>.
 
She lives in West Virginia. So, it was across State lines and Uncle Sam can be involved.

She came across state lines on her own. No crime crossed state lines. Had the men driven her across the line, that would be different.
 
If Steubenville were serious about putting things right, it would get rid of its school football programme. Sport is simply not as important as this school and many others have made it out to be. It's a game - something kids should do after the truly important stuff, like homework, cleaning their rooms and learning that women are not their personal sex dolls.
 
I don't k now if this has been posted, but it's one good thing about social media! Hooray for the attention this case got. The guys may not have received a big sentence, but now the whole world knows and the whole world knows others, especially adults and people in authority were unethical and possibly will face criminal charges. Honestly, it's the adults I am most angered with... it's what helped lead to the rape and horrible behavior in the first place and what could have kept it from being fully prosecuted or even seen as a crime.

Steubenville Rape Guilty Verdict: The Case that Social Media Won


http://ideas.time.com/2013/03/17/st...won/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
 
Steubenville rape case: Trent Mays & Ma’Lik Richmond guilty in rape of 16-year-old, Ohio judge rules

The 17-year-old Mays and 16-year-old Richmond were charged with digitally penetrating the West Virginia girl, first in a car and then in a house. They could be held in a juvenile jail until they turn 21


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/s...ear-old-judge-article-1.1291087#ixzz2NoEmjgVm

:woohoo:

Indiana closed down a town's high school's sports program because fans were shouting racial slurs from the bleachers. Well, this is way worse than name calling. This was rape combined with a conspiracy to obstruct justice. This town loved their football so much and were ready to flush a victim's rights down the toilet. Close down the sports program till 2016.

I'm conflicted about that. My initial reaction is that I agree with you. However, it was a small percentage of kids from the team who were involved in this. I'm really bothered that very few of these kids (not all of them football players) stepped forward to say anything. I'd imagine that the vast majority of players knew about this, at least second hand. (The three kids who did step forward to testify for the prosecution had to be given immunity in order to testify.)

It seems like there was/is a culture of belief that going to the police would do very little for the victim and would cause massive blowback on the reporters. So I don't know what they should really have done. The judge in the town had or still has a kid on the team and she didn't recuse herself for two weeks and then it was only because some media had latched on to the case.

It seems, from reports, that this town is rife with corruption that spreads across, just about, the entire legal system. I'd like to think I would've reported it if I knew about it. Unfortunately, the town is run by corruption and repercussions of people who report crimes (of certain people) seems to be severe.

I don't know if the fairly innocent kids should be punished for the acts of the sick :censored:

Even without charges I think the entire coaching staff should be fired and a new set brought in, at the very least. JMO


IIRC, Anonymous made some fairly serious charges involving drug dealing, a judge who thumbed her nose at Ohio law about being involved with the school board and being a judge, an assistant coach who, may have been, paying the rape crew for the deeds and pictures, and illegal gambling run by the Sheriff.

Who knows what the grand jury is going to be presented with, but I see more coming out of this. Anonymous claimed that they gathered all of their evidence legally. If that's true and they turned it all over to the FBI then there could be some serious charges and some serious jail time involved.

As far as Anonymous making it harder on the victim I disagree. IIRC, Anonymous claimed that they had contacted the family and they were grateful for the publicity they had brought to the case. Is that actually true? I don't know. I do know that I've never seen any mention that the family wanted them to stop in any articles I've read. JMO

If Steubenville were serious about putting things right, it would get rid of its school football programme. Sport is simply not as important as this school and many others have made it out to be. It's a game - something kids should do after the truly important stuff, like homework, cleaning their rooms and learning that women are not their personal sex dolls.

All of those things can be taught while playing football. The majority of coaches in high schools teach morals to their teams, IMO. It's the fanbase that needs to take a look at themselves too.

All is just my opinion.

I'm really hoping that both convicted kids serve out their terms until they are 21. I also hope they have to register as sex offenders.


Another set of videos on the case discussing future charges there are more after the initial vdeo; http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...s-in-steubenville-high-school-rape-trial?lite
 
The immunity was granted by the judge for the trial and it was very specific and didnt preclude other charges being filed against the three students who were granted the immunity. IIRC.

JD thought at least one of them was an assailant, iirc.

:bow: AG. All of my worry dissipated when I started watching this trial-they had a wealth of evidence. I dont expect any Grand Jury investigation to be any different. I guess we can start speculating who they are going after, but I bet they have a short list right out of the gate.
 

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