SnippedInside the locked, four-door pickup with the keys in the ignition they found Bobby Jamisons wallet, his wifes purse, a cell phone, a GPS unit, clothing and $32,000 stuffed in a bank bag beneath the drivers seat. They also found Maizy, a family dog barely clinging to life.
http://newsok.com/eufaula-familys-fate-remains-mystery/article/3458228
IIRC, We have been back and forth on the keys thing, and I think it was finally determined that they were not in the ignition, but in the truck, and Sherilyn's (or Bobby's, whichever) keys are unaccounted for.
Thank you Watcher 9 for posting the above 2nd article because it answers 2 questions I've been harping over.
1. Keys in the ignition upon police arrival. Very important detail
Many of us here were wondering if they could have been in Bobby's
pocket or just plain missing.
2. The Jamisons were last seen alive Oct. 9 by a local man as the family was looking for a plot of land for sale. (per 2nd article)
So they were alive after the rainstorm in order for the mud prints to set in.
Mapman I was in the dark about the keys this whole time too, if like you say, the article is accurate.
I can totally see them being locked out as well.
IIRC, We have been back and forth on the keys thing, and I think it was finally determined that they were not in the ignition, but in the truck, and Sherilyn's (or Bobby's, whichever) keys are unaccounted for.
I finally found this article which says that there was footprints from all the Jamisons. Maybe this is where the misconception occurred though since they singled out Madyson's footprints.
They found footprints (obviously the Jamison's for Madyson's footprints were easy to spot) and followed them along with the gps up to a rock. They discovered a picture of Madyson on Bobby's phone that shows Madyson sitting on the rock they were led to. The Jamison's than walked back to the truck and then...it seems as if they just vanished.
http://kjhusak.hubpages.com/hub/WhatReallyHappened
Sorry to cause this confusion about the keys. I was concentrating on the search of the footprints and got excited about the tire tracks. Since it mentioned items found in the truck, I decided to add that into my post and then saw the "keys in the ignition" so I included that also.
I also remember now about discussions way back when of a possible separate set of keys, maybe a key fob, keys on the seat, etc. Also discussions about locking themselves out of the truck. Did the keys in the ignition show up in the Paradise Lost video?
Don't we have a copy somewhere of the official sheriff's report that specifies whether the keys were in the ignition or not? This would clear up the key issue.
I'm looking for it, but haven't found it yet.
No need to be sorry. In my opinion the "keys in the ignition" reference in the article is important. I now realize that it has probably been thoroughly discussed. Its just that in my opinion, if they locked themselves out of the truck, it seems more likely that they were victims of foul play. I believe that if they knew that they were locked out of the truck, they would have been more likely to go to the nearest home for assistance than off on an excursion with the knowledge that they would be returning to a locked truck. Most logically they would have gone south to the homes in that area to call for help or obtain a coat hanger or some tool to open the door. If they left the truck heading south, it seems strange that they were found north of the truck. Previously, I was comfortable assuming that they had keys with them because I didn't think that any keys were in the truck. I'm less comfortable with this assumption if keys were found anywhere in the truck even though there could easily have been more than one set of keys. If keys were in the ignition, it seems more likely that they were the primary set and the only way they could have re-entered the truck would have been if one of them happened to be carrying another key.
What if they started out walking and someone came by and gave them a lift and then Bobby started telling his story (including the cash) to the occupants of the vehicle?
In my opinion tales of cash would provide a strong motive for murder, but that scenario only makes sense to me if they were carrying the mystery satchel of money or something that looked as valuable. If the Jamisons were killed for the money in the truck, the money would probably have been removed from the truck.
I cropped and re-sized the picture of the red device and camo thing in the dash compartment with the hope of seeing more detail. The shiny objects to the left of the camo thing do appear to be coins as mentioned by a previous poster. The camo thing is beginning to look like a zip-up pouch that has been left opened towards the red device. Across the side of the pouch facing the camera is what looks like a small strip of cloth probably sewn to the front and back faces of the pouch, possibly for stress relief. It looks like writing similar to the letter W or number 46 or 56 and some smaller writing is on this strip. Faintly visible is what appears to be a zipper pull-handle hanging downwards from where the two halves of the pouch opening come together, and the small hole in the end of the pull-handle can be seen right over the bottom edge of the pouch next to the lower end of the small cloth strip. I don't know how much detail is visible in the attached pictures because they lose resolution during the upload process.
If this is a zipper pouch I would think that the black colored edge facing the camera is elastic or something similar sewn across the sides of the pouch. It doesn't make sense that the sides would be open if the pouch zips closed. Perhaps this is a small general purpose zip-up camo pouch. It might not be designed specifically to be a holster or even recognizable as a holster, but it could possibly be used to carry a very small .22, a small gps, or a variety of other small objects. It now appears to me that the pouch is probably empty because the red device can be seen behind and through the opened end of the pouch. If the red device is a typical size cell phone, the pouch is small because it appears to be about as deep as the red device is in length.
I don't believe that the red device is the handle of a pistol because the bottom of it is not symmetrical, and it has a small irregular shaped hole that appears more intended to accept a cable or electrical cord than a bullet magazine. Normally a magazine is inserted into the bottom of a semi-auto pistol handle and you can either see the mostly rectangular outline of the magazine opening or sometimes the flat base of the magazine will completely cover the bottom of the handle. There should not be a small irregular shaped hole in the bottom of a pistol handle.
The meta-data contained in the well sign picture indicated that the picture was taken with a Blackberry 9000. The phone in the attached picture of the money and phone looks very much like the picture of a Blackberry 9000 also attached. Unless someone has seen another phone somewhere else in the pictures that have been made available it seems very likely that the red device is Sherilyn's phone or possibly a shocker although the case with open sides isn't like any case that I'm familiar with.
I think this may very well be what happened, in general if not in particular. I think their mouths got them into trouble.What if they started out walking and someone came by and gave them a lift and then Bobby started telling his story (including the cash) to the occupants of the vehicle?
I believe that if they knew that they were locked out of the truck, they would have been more likely to go to the nearest home for assistance than off on an excursion with the knowledge that they would be returning to a locked truck. Most logically they would have gone south to the homes in that area to call for help or obtain a coat hanger or some tool to open the door. If they left the truck heading south, it seems strange that they were found north of the truck.
I checked the rules on posting about RSOs and it looks like mapping is okay, so here's the map of the immediate area around Panola Mountain. Kinta is to the north, Wilburton to the southwest, and Red Oak to the southeast:
Google Earth/Maps did not recognize every address given, so some of the placemarks are approximate if I could find the road but not the house number. Some RSOs were listed with only a PO box or with no address at all, so the +1 and +3 notations represent the ones that could not be placed on the map.
From what I understand, residents of the mountain itself rent PO boxes because there is no mail delivery there.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5202848#post5202848.
I can guess, but have no hard info on which types of sex offenders would be most likely to escalate to the murder of an entire family. If anyone does, I'm all ears.
I seem to remember a post by mtrooper that clarified this issue but I have no idea wen it was posted. (I just heard about this case and spent the last 3 days reading all 12 threads. I have some theories but am at work right now.)