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TY for the update. Here's a direct link to Lori's post:
Found Deceased OK - Mark Chastain - Billy Chastain - Mike Sparks - Alex Stevens - Left A Home on Bicycles - Okmulgee *arrest* #2
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Dec 1, 2022 update
www.fox23.com
[…]
Chief Prentice says this confession was never made to law enforcement though.
A request was made for Kennedy’s release in Thursday’s hearing, something family and friends of the victims were upset by.
[…]
Affidavit reveals confession details after four Okmulgee men murdered
An affidavit, unsealed just today, reveals a statement about a confession and possible motive in the murder of four Okmulgee men.
[…]
Chief Prentice says this confession was never made to law enforcement though.
A request was made for Kennedy’s release in Thursday’s hearing, something family and friends of the victims were upset by.
[…]
I wonder what his defense will say. It'd be interesting to see what they counter. I can see why his defense wanted that important info. I mean its a while for it come to light. Perhaps now we have some answers, but obviously not all. I feel for the families. I wonder why its Billy's DNA only, though in the scrapyard and 5:40pm he was seen there. IDK there are so many questions that come to mind here. Where are the other guys 'DNA why list only one person's DNA in the affidavit? Afterall there were four men who died. There is no clear picture here right now IMO.
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Wow, I wonder if Kennedy was completely unaware of the cameras in the area. How often does the prosecutor have video of the suspect, by himself apparently, at the scene of the murders and dismemberment?
The Coco Cola plant across the street from the field and the Paccar building across the street from the salvage yard are probably the sources of the video(s). MOO
I'm guessing that the if a video showed Kennedy coming and going from the scrap yard and the dismemberment scene, Pine Field, it has to show him driving away westbound, with the bodies, towards the river. If you can tell Kennedy is wearing a different shirt, after being at the scrap yard, it must be pretty damning video.
From the article
"-It says he left and came back several times and at 4 AM, went to the vacant lot next to his scrap yard, known as Pine Field."
www.fox23.com
The Coco Cola plant across the street from the field and the Paccar building across the street from the salvage yard are probably the sources of the video(s). MOO
I'm guessing that the if a video showed Kennedy coming and going from the scrap yard and the dismemberment scene, Pine Field, it has to show him driving away westbound, with the bodies, towards the river. If you can tell Kennedy is wearing a different shirt, after being at the scrap yard, it must be pretty damning video.
From the article
"-It says he left and came back several times and at 4 AM, went to the vacant lot next to his scrap yard, known as Pine Field."
Affidavit reveals confession details after four Okmulgee men murdered
An affidavit, unsealed just today, reveals a statement about a confession and possible motive in the murder of four Okmulgee men.
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I wonder if that 'friend' was actually one rather than someone Kennedy bullied/intimidated. I wonder if that person felt threatened into turning over the keys to his vehicle that he'd end up chopped up too unless he complied.
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Jeeez Louise, a friend of yours shows up at 3am and tells you he just killed for men and cut up their bodies. He then takes your truck and you call the police and report a stolen vehicle!!??
I will never, EVER understand how some people's minds are wired.
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I don't think the person he took the vehicle from and the person he is said to have admitted the murders to are the same people. I would imagine his wife was very unhappy to hear that!
[snip from the article]
"Kennedy told a woman in Gore, Oklahoma, that he killed and dismembered the four men because they were stealing from him, according to the affidavit, which was filed by prosecutors who were seeking to increase Kennedy’s bond."
Affidavit: Oklahoma man said he killed 4 men, ‘cut them up’
Authorities believe 67-year-old Joseph Kennedy shot and killed the four men on Oct. 9 at Kennedy’s scrap yard, according to the affidavit.
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Ohh ok, did this woman friend call the cops when he left?I don't think the person he took the vehicle from and the person he is said to have admitted the murders to are the same people. I would imagine his wife was very unhappy to hear that!
[snip from the article]
"Kennedy told a woman in Gore, Oklahoma, that he killed and dismembered the four men because they were stealing from him, according to the affidavit, which was filed by prosecutors who were seeking to increase Kennedy’s bond."
Affidavit: Oklahoma man said he killed 4 men, ‘cut them up’
Authorities believe 67-year-old Joseph Kennedy shot and killed the four men on Oct. 9 at Kennedy’s scrap yard, according to the affidavit.www.dakotanewsnow.com
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I don't know, that was all the article said about it.
We had some confusion about then the men left and I'm glad it was clarified in the APC that it was around 5:40 pm.
Have we found a copy of the actual PCA?
I don't see this bolded and italicized part highlighted by me in this article anywhere. What article did you see this in. I haven't seen the affidavit, I have to catch up on this thread a bit. Has anyone psted the unsealed affidavit since it was released? Thanks in advance.Wow, I wonder if Kennedy was completely unaware of the cameras in the area. How often does the prosecutor have video of the suspect, by himself apparently, at the scene of the murders and dismemberment?
The Coco Cola plant across the street from the field and the Paccar building across the street from the salvage yard are probably the sources of the video(s). MOO
I'm guessing that the if a video showed Kennedy coming and going from the scrap yard and the dismemberment scene, Pine Field, it has to show him driving away westbound, with the bodies, towards the river. If you can tell Kennedy is wearing a different shirt, after being at the scrap yard, it must be pretty damning video.
From the article
"-It says he left and came back several times and at 4 AM, went to the vacant lot next to his scrap yard, known as Pine Field."
Affidavit reveals confession details after four Okmulgee men murdered
An affidavit, unsealed just today, reveals a statement about a confession and possible motive in the murder of four Okmulgee men.
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The links to the affidavit are missing now from 2 articles, but it has been posted before. I copied it right from the article that I linked.I don't think the person he took the vehicle from and the person he is said to have admitted the murders to are the same people. I would imagine his wife was very unhappy to hear that!
[snip from the article]
"Kennedy told a woman in Gore, Oklahoma, that he killed and dismembered the four men because they were stealing from him, according to the affidavit, which was filed by prosecutors who were seeking to increase Kennedy’s bond."
Affidavit: Oklahoma man said he killed 4 men, ‘cut them up’
Authorities believe 67-year-old Joseph Kennedy shot and killed the four men on Oct. 9 at Kennedy’s scrap yard, according to the affidavit.
Here is another article with incredible details from the affidavit, of the timeline, including when JK would have loaded the victims in his truck and leaving in the direction of the river. I'm not understanding why the link is gone. This article states the information is from the affidavit.
"4:54 a.m.: The truck is seen returning to the Coke plant before turning around and going back to Pine Field.
6:22 a.m.: A "vehicle consistent with the Tundra pickup" is seen leaving Pine Field going west on Sharp Road."
Court documents: Joseph Kennedy confessed to killing 4 Okmulgee men and cutting them up
An affidavit unsealed this week in Okmulgee County says Joseph Kennedy confessed to killing and dismembering four local men.
Hopefully that video that they have isn't grainy and can be verified its him otherwise there is doubt. Unfortunately its four men who died and circumstantial evidence isn't going to convict. No one wants heresay and non solid evidence to convict someone because that doesn't do justice to the four men nor their families. There is a serious issue with catalytic convertor thefts. This case could possibly be tied to something larger than expected than a simple scrapyard owner/murder type of case. I'm just wondering if this has something to do with this case.
southtahoenow.com
Justice Department announces takedown of nationwide catalytic converter theft ring
Federal, state, and local law enforcement partners from across the United States executed a nationwide, coordinated takedown today of leaders and associates of a national network of thieves, dealers, and processors for their roles in conspiracies involving stolen catalytic converters sold to a...
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Maybe Kenney's attorney's are challenging it? IDK how that would work if it has been unsealed. Perhaps the attorneys have something else to counter and so the court is backtracking if possible? No judgement on the cout here what happens, happens, right? If its to set the record straight then, possibly? IDK just hypothesizing as to why its no longer available to be seen on those sites or aticles? Really wondering, why? Its quite startling what's been reported as being in the affidavit.The links to the affidavit are missing now from 2 articles, but it has been posted before. I copied it right from the article that I linked.
Here is another article with incredible details from the affidavit, of the timeline, including when JK would have loaded the victims in his truck and leaving in the direction of the river. I'm not understanding why the link is gone. This article states the information is from the affidavit.
"4:54 a.m.: The truck is seen returning to the Coke plant before turning around and going back to Pine Field.
6:22 a.m.: A "vehicle consistent with the Tundra pickup" is seen leaving Pine Field going west on Sharp Road."
Court documents: Joseph Kennedy confessed to killing 4 Okmulgee men and cutting them up
An affidavit unsealed this week in Okmulgee County says Joseph Kennedy confessed to killing and dismembering four local men.news.yahoo.com
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Dec 5,2022 article
www.fox23.com
Okmulgee County DA speaks out after charging Joe Kennedy with 4 counts of first-degree murder
The Okmulgee County District Attorney has filed four counts of first-degree murder against Joe Kennedy.
Perhaps it was a portion of the affidavit we were looking at as these charges let us conclude what Kennedy is alleged to have done. If it is so I hope LE can tie everything together to get exactly what happened. I still can't help but think there is more to these men's deaths than a simple robbery gone bad/losing it on Kennedy's part. I mean dismembering them over theft probably that is not a very high amount dollarwise. IDK, doesn't Kennedy have insurance? I mean he has been in the business for a long time, afterall it was in 2012 his other charges stem from so in all those years he was fine and all of a sudden this happened? IDK there is more to this than the obvious of theft perhaps by the four. Were all of them there? These are questions that will have to be answered to the "T". Is there another connection to something larger?Dec 5,2022 article
Okmulgee County DA speaks out after charging Joe Kennedy with 4 counts of first-degree murder
The Okmulgee County District Attorney has filed four counts of first-degree murder against Joe Kennedy.
'Person of Interest' Now Formally Charged with Murdering Four Men Who Were Found Dismembered
Prosecutors have charged the man suspected of murdering and dismembering four others in Oklahoma.
lawandcrime.com
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From the lawandcrime link joe jones posted above:
Speaking on Monday, Okmulgee County District Attorney Carol Iski told reporters that the four victims sustained gunshot wounds and were also “transected at the waist.” Mike Sparks also had both arms removed, she said.
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There, (at the gas station) surveillance footage allegedly did not show the four missing men but depicted Kennedy standing next to his blue PT Crusader.
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He told her (the woman he confessed to) “they were all against him, and he lost it, and he just started shooting,” Iski said. Kennedy allegedly told her “he cut them up.”
lawandcrime.com
Speaking on Monday, Okmulgee County District Attorney Carol Iski told reporters that the four victims sustained gunshot wounds and were also “transected at the waist.” Mike Sparks also had both arms removed, she said.
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There, (at the gas station) surveillance footage allegedly did not show the four missing men but depicted Kennedy standing next to his blue PT Crusader.
...
He told her (the woman he confessed to) “they were all against him, and he lost it, and he just started shooting,” Iski said. Kennedy allegedly told her “he cut them up.”
'Person of Interest' Now Formally Charged with Murdering Four Men Who Were Found Dismembered
Prosecutors have charged the man suspected of murdering and dismembering four others in Oklahoma.
lawandcrime.com
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She reveals a lot of details about the murders in the video from yesterday afternoon. She made copies for the news of the PC affidavit and the arrest warrant. Video is 22 minutes long.
www.news9.com
WATCH: Okmulgee County Prosecutors Provide Timeline Of Quadruple-Murder Investigation
The District Attorney in Okmulgee has filed charges against the man accused of killing and dismembering four people in Okmulgee in October.
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@5W's I tend to agree with your doubts and can’t explain why.
‘Transecting’ four men after shooting them seems way, way overboard for a simple robbery. Why do that? Why remove one man’s arms? Were all the remains found? If so, where? How many different tools? Would one already have all tools required? Where are those tools? Would electricity be needed - it would certainly be a time saver? What about the clothes he wore? When and where was the hauling vehicle found? Was it cleaned? Where was it cleaned and where are it’s contents? We’ve heard of one bike and one pull trailer being found. Where are the rest of the men’s bikes and possessions? Were they found and where? How much time would it logically take for one person to do all that?
I suppose there are lots of other questions I could raise …. it just seems a lot of details would be involved for one man for such an undertaking as all this, but I guess anything is possible if one is determined enough. Regardless, I hope the one and only person responsible is given his proper due. All this is only my thoughts.
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His murder case is now available # CF-2022-00165 The only document available to us online is what I think is the charging document. The warrant and the affidavit are available in the clerk's office.
In his old case, they unsealed the affidavit for the bond increase and it's available to view online. It's included in the bottom portion of the 12/5 filing: DEF'S OBJECTION TO ES PARTE PROCEEDINGS
Case # CF-2012-00028
In his old case, they unsealed the affidavit for the bond increase and it's available to view online. It's included in the bottom portion of the 12/5 filing: DEF'S OBJECTION TO ES PARTE PROCEEDINGS
Case # CF-2012-00028
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