Found Deceased OK - Mark Chastain, Billy Chastain, Mike Sparks, Alex Stevens, Okmulgee, 9 Oct 2022

[Knox]

 

[ChatteringBirds]

How sad. Four victims and at least one perp who will likely be heading to prison.
I have a feeling I won't understand a lot of the details in this case, but at least one victim had photos of babies on his Facebook account. That's universal for love and hope, at least at some point.

 

[Knox]

“All four are close friends and are believed to have left Billy Chastain’s home on the west side of Okmulgee” on Sunday, October 9, around 8 p.m., police said in their initial release.

“All were reportedly on bicycles,” the police statement reads, without elaborating about why they’d gathered or where they might have intended to go.

At least two men were believed to have cell phones with them. Police were able to trace the path of at least one phone to the east of town and then south, but the phone eventually was turned off or lost power, police said.

Data indicates the phones went to two salvage yards – one about 5 miles from the river, and the other about 10 to 12 miles from the river, Prentice told CNN on Saturday. Police haven’t said whether the phones have been recovered.

Because the phone data wasn’t near the river, “we never considered this (river) as a search area,” he told reporters Friday.

Prentice cautioned that the phones’ paths didn’t necessarily have to be the path that the men traveled.

No bicycles have been found, Prentice said Saturday.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/15/us/oklahoma-river-missing-bikers-search/index.html

 

[ThoughtFox]

This case is starting to sound similar to the Signal Mountain Murders near Chattanooga, Tennessee in 1988. Three big strong men, ex-military, went off on ATV's to visit a local swimming hole. Unfortunately they crossed paths with an angry landowner who somehow shot and killed all three, then drove their bodies and ATVs off the mountain and dumped them in the woods. They just never came home. The story was covered on Unsolved Mysteries and several other shows. Signal Mountain murders - Wikipedia

 

[IceIce9]

It's like the junkyard scene from "Stand By Me," only with adults. Very bizarre!

What are the reasons anyone would visit junkyard/savage business after hours? Only a few purposes I can think of in general, not necessarily pertaining to this case.
JMO

 

[Stunned]

Mr. Carbuff often takes longer rides with a group of cycling friends; 20-30 miles is a typical length.

After dark is pretty weird though. Dangerous even on good roads, even if they have lots of front and rear lights and such.

I suppose it's possible that if they were riding in a group on a dark back road, they might have been hit (probably from behind) by a speeding vehicle and the driver panicked and threw them in the water after.

Usually those kind of bike riders post about their bikes and their rides. I don’t see that here on any on visible SM. IMO

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Thanks for starting this thread Twinkie…now I need to go read all the posts and find out what the deal is here……

 

[sunshineray]

Since the cellphone of one victim was either turned off or the battery died at the second salvage yard they visited, I wonder if that is where they ran into trouble.

MOO

I saw on CNN the local LE saying the first salvage yard they went to was about 5 miles or so from where the four bodies have been found. The second salvage yard is double that distance away from the area the still-unidentified bodies were found. To me that sounds like if the bodies recovered are of the four missing men, after putting their bodies in the river their belongings (cell phone, probably bikes/trailers) were brought to that distant salvage yard. Anyone know if LE is searching there also?
AJMO

 

[Knox]

They visited a salvage yard west of Okmulgee before stopping at a station, KOTV reported. They then went to a different salvage yard, which is where Mark Chastain's phone died or turned off.

Prentice said the area where the bodies were found was never considered a search area by police.

"All of the information that we had up to this point indicated that our missing men — based on telephone data — had gone east leaving town and then ultimately south on 75. This is in the opposite direction," he said.

4 bodies found in Oklahoma river amid search for missing men

The bodies were found in the opposite direction of where the 4 missing men were believed to have traveled, according to the local police chief.

www.cbsnews.com

21625 S 200 Rd to Oklahoma

www.google.com

Need the second scrap yard location.

 

[meanmaryjean]

Thanks for starting this thread Twinkie…now I need to go read all the posts and find out what the deal is here……

Well if you figure it out let me know because what in the chicken fried heck is even going on with this case?

 

[sunshineray]

They visited a salvage yard west of Okmulgee before stopping at a station, KOTV reported. They then went to a different salvage yard, which is where Mark Chastain's phone died or turned off.

Prentice said the area where the bodies were found was never considered a search area by police.

"All of the information that we had up to this point indicated that our missing men — based on telephone data — had gone east leaving town and then ultimately south on 75. This is in the opposite direction," he said.

4 bodies found in Oklahoma river amid search for missing men

The bodies were found in the opposite direction of where the 4 missing men were believed to have traveled, according to the local police chief.

www.cbsnews.com

21625 S 200 Rd to Oklahoma

www.google.com

Need the second scrap yard location.

Do they have actual CCTV of the men at the gas station? Or did just one of their phones ping as stopping there?

 

[LoisDenominator]

Need the second scrap yard location.

Appears that this is the one <modsnip>. 21000 S 236 Rd · 21000 S 236 Rd, Henryetta, OK 74437

 

[Knox]

Do they have actual CCTV of the men at the gas station? Or did just one of their phones ping as stopping there?

Nope. Only the cell ping, no video of them there, which makes me think only the killer stopped there (bodies hidden in vehicle). Or the phone just pinged as it drove by, no idea which is true. But it should be helpful to LE in some way.

 

[sunshineray]

Riding 30 miles on a road bike with a cycling group is pretty common and not strenuous for most men (or women, for that matter). Those carbon fiber bikes can be lifted with one finger.

But riding a standard, metal-framed bicycle even a few miles is another thing all together.
If you add in pulling a trailer of some sort, that is definitely going to challenge the rider's endurance if attempting to travel more than 5 miles.

I have to believe they were met at the salvage yard and gathered up, along with their bikes, and transported. Either that, or they took themselves to someone's home or other meeting location, where they were accosted.

One of the wives said they never went far on these rides, another concurred with that.

Also starting out at 8pm for a long 20-30 mile rides seems unwise and probably something they would have mentioned they were planning to do to loved ones. AJMO

Mystery as four men vanish after heading off on evening bike ride

‘They don’t go far — never’, says wife of husband and his friends

www.google.com

 

[Knox]

Appears that this is the one <modsnip>. 21000 S 236 Rd · 21000 S 236 Rd, Henryetta, OK 74437

21625 S 200 Rd to 21000 S 236 Rd

www.google.com

Thank you for the location of the second scrap yard.

 

[Knox]

Authorities have been tracking the men's cell phone data and established a path of where they might be but have so far been unable to locate any sign of the four friends.

Jessica said her husband's phone pinged last around 5:24 p.m. Sunday. All she wants is to "bring them home."

Four Oklahoma men mysteriously disappear for days after bike ride: 'I'm feeling lost'

Oklahoma police say four men who are 'close friends' were reported missing Monday after they left for a bike ride on Sunday.

www.foxnews.com

 

[MntnHiker]

Going with your first idea --- they were doing something nefarious and got caught. I don't think it would be the salvage yard owners/workers that would kill them and then dump them. Why would they? They could call the cops (like what was done in the link posted last night) and charges could be brought.

IMHO whoever is responsible for the men going missing is going to be gang/drug related.

There are some people who like taking things in their own hands. I am not saying anything against this particular salvage yard owner; I haven’t even looked into who that is. Just speaking in general terms. Some people, especially if they’ve dealt with others coming onto their property many times before, May be tired of it and greet trespassers with a gun. And then who knows what happens from there. Maybe the trespassers try to do something to them and it spirals. Not saying I condone handling it this way at all.

Again just speaking in generalities. I know even where I live which is nowhere near here there are some people with lots of land who are tired of others trespassing to hunt, for instance, and have patrolled their property with a rifle at the ready. All MOO

 

[Knox]

Jessica said she last spoke to her husband — which whom she has two kids ages 3 and 1 — by phone on Sunday at 5:24 p.m., asking him if she needed to buy dog food.

Jessica, who noted that the men regularly frequent a local scrap yard, said that Mark was supposed to watch their daughter on Monday while she started a new job.

"He would never miss anything that has to do with his children," Jessica said. "He didn't just up and run off and go on a man trip."

The families of 4 men who have gone missing in a small Oklahoma city are desperate for answers: 'None of this makes sense'

The men were reported missing to the Okmulgee Police Department earlier this week. At this point, authorities say they do not suspect foul play.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Knox]

Mark’s wife, Jessica Chastain, told 2 News he parked his beloved, red car at a house owned by the Chastain family on Sunday. It's where the four men would often hang out.

Okmulgee investigators were searching for the men in a junkyard off Highway 75, north of Schulter, on Wednesday. It’s where police say Mark’s cell phone pinged last.

“They don’t go far - never," Chastain said.

Okmulgee police find 'multiple human remains' in search for four missing men

The Okmulgee Police Department is looking for four men who haven't been seen by family since Sunday.

www.kjrh.com

 

[sunshineray]

“All four are close friends and are believed to have left Billy Chastain’s home on the west side of Okmulgee” on Sunday, October 9, around 8 p.m., police said in their initial release.

“All were reportedly on bicycles,” the police statement reads, without elaborating about why they’d gathered or where they might have intended to go.

At least two men were believed to have cell phones with them. Police were able to trace the path of at least one phone to the east of town and then south, but the phone eventually was turned off or lost power, police said.

Data indicates the phones went to two salvage yards – one about 5 miles from the river, and the other about 10 to 12 miles from the river, Prentice told CNN on Saturday. Police haven’t said whether the phones have been recovered.

Because the phone data wasn’t near the river, “we never considered this (river) as a search area,” he told reporters Friday.

Prentice cautioned that the phones’ paths didn’t necessarily have to be the path that the men traveled.

No bicycles have been found, Prentice said Saturday.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/15/us/oklahoma-river-missing-bikers-search/index.html

Only one reason to me that one of their phones would ping at that second and father away from the river site salvage yard...someone, with the phone at the first salvage yard decided to go to the second salvage yard. If those bodies found are of these four missing men then it would be easy and fair to draw a conclusion that someone connected to that first salvage yard took the phone (and mostly likely more things) to that second salvage yard....IMO