Hi Missizzy!
You have been working hard! Great job... I haven't had the luxury to step into this thread for a while but I've been very interested in what Mr.Stitches (hugs to you Michael) have been discussing. Oh and hugs to you Missizzy!
Early on in this thread I was extremely uncomfortable in that which I should go back and read again. If I am recalling right, I had some major antennae go up on MG and "his lady friend" who needed some "house cleaning" (someone Heather was helping at MG's request or by his introduction?) I had a very bad feeling about that so-called house cleaning and the lady who was supposed to be needing it. When Mr.Stitches mentioned that woman's behaviors (it is the same woman, right?) when he was in Oregon, flags started shooting off everywhere again... Then you found that info Mizzy on at least one "MG" in OK...
Haven't we read that supposedly Heather missed an appt. then MG called and did not get an answer from Heather and then he sent his lady friend to go check on Heather? Didn't she not find Heather (supposedly), then leave, then come back with MG and maybe someone else and they supposedly looked all over for Heather (not finding her)? Maybe even with some neighbors at that point? AND THEN the police were called?
If I am remembering right, that all really smacked of "storying" to me OR OR OR more than that, several people going and making sure that "very concerned friends" were littering the house with fingerprints and footprints as they searched. In other words, how smart is it when a young woman is missing to go muck up a potential crime scene? Unless of course, you want to obfuscate the scene (did I use that word right?) What I mean is that I had this very strange feeling that those two people might have been traipsing around that property covering up vital crime scene information under the guise of being concerned.
So...we are at this point and I would like to see if we can get some things established. Mr. Stitches, could you look at the MG that Missizzy found and see if you can identify him as the person you met when you went to Oregon?
Does the guy on this page:
http://okiecampaigns.blogspot.com/2010/08/cair-oklahomas-board-chair-charges-of.html
Or this page (not a good close up but shows his size):
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Aziz-Gipson/1675554614
Look anything like the MG you met in Oregon? Hmmm... That guy had to appear in court on July 29th in OK, I can hardly believe it would be the same guy. Or maybe the MG that Heather knew was in town, then scooted to OK, then back again and maybe the trial docket:
>>A $5,000 unsecured bond was set for each defendant, and the case is currently scheduled to be on the Sept. 13 trial docket of U.S. District Judge Timothy D. DeGiusti.<<
has something to do with MG not being in Oregon now (or is he?) Michael, do you know if the police are aware of this man's whereabouts at this time?
Also... Missizzy, you reference CS, could you PM me with her name so I can putts around on that person. I'm wondering if that is really her name or an alias. Do I recall someone mentioning she is about 56? Also, Michael, might you PM me with some type of description of this woman?
So we hear that CS was reportedly going to look at a home Heather was interested in? Then we hear that CS has 2 homes in foreclosure (do we know that as fact)? When I pick someone to go look at a potential investment, I pick someone that I think has made some smart choices and who can advise me. Would Heather have picked someone who needed "house cleaning" and who was losing their houses to go look at a home with her? (of course, maybe CS is not in foreclosure? maybe she really WASN'T supposed to go look at a home with Heather? maybe Heather didn't know that CS's homes were in foreclosure?)
I ask myself...did Heather tell anyone, "I have this chunk of savings I want to invest in a home up here..." If so, did she tell this to a couple of scammers? Maybe MG and CS are scammers?
I'm thinking these two people, even as I originally wondered, should be looked at more closely. The necklace thing... It wouldn't have to be a Wiccan thing to take a "token" -- murderers often take tokens. I'm wondering if MG and CS had a "thang" and MG took a token and gave it to CS. Or is it possible Heather would have done such a thing, given away a necklace she obviously enjoyed having so much?
Mr. Stitches, to be honest with you the necklace, the nervous behavior of CS (although that could have been drug behavior or "house cleaning" need behavior), the stories that didn't fit or that were crooked...all of that smacks of very worrisome indications to me. It also, of course, fits with my original discomfort of CS being sent to the house, then MG and CS going...and THEN the police being called (if I have my facts straight). For some reason I asked myself then, are these two in cahoots (scammers), did MG do this, then try to make it look different by sending a lady friend to check, then the two of them going back trying to look like concerned friends while traipsing all over covering up the facts? (purposely).
I really hate to say it and know that there ARE reasons why the police do not release certain information, but it would be really helpful to know the details of where (exactly) and how Heather was found (i.e. in what estate). It would also be helpful, although painful, to know the exact COD and injuries to her body. It could give us an indication if this was a man, a woman, two people, perhaps the mind of the criminal.
Maybe we can resolve if MAG is MG first. I'm thinking we need to know far more info about MG and CS, to be sure. Also about the people that surrounded the two of them.
IF Heather sounded like she had a little to invest, I could see someone who had a drug habit and/or who was losing their home to foreclosure and or who was a scammer befriending her. What do we know about Heather's bank account activity just prior to and after her death?
EDIT: Yay, I haven't lost my marbles...
Here is the page where there are messages of findings (from me) showing that I was wondering about MG this new friend of 3 weeks who just "loved" Heather. Sure people can be loved quickly, but I found MGs closeness to this young woman to seem a fairly quick deal (as in suspiciously quick, some older man just "loves" this young woman? I might have thought he would describe things as "She was very new to me, but I found her to be extremely likable, very easy to get to know, I was growing quite fond of friendship with her" kinda thing.)