Found Deceased OR - Melissa Marie Jubane, 32, Beaverton, 4 September 2024 *Arrest*

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vls12345 said:
This article has a photo of BS and if you look closely, you can see what looks like the edge of an undershirt sleeve under the orange jumpsuit. (Saying this in relation to previous discussion re: a shirt and/or a bandage at his neck.) Imo.

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Melissa Jubane and Bryce Schubert: What we know about Oregon nurse’s death, neighbor accused of killing her

A more detailed picture of what allegedly happened is becoming clearer, days after Beaverton police accused Melissa Jubane’s neighbor of murdering her.
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Yes, and you can see it is also pinkish. The only time inmates' white clothing items look white are when they're brand new. All the inmate whites come back from the laundry some shade of pink or peach! (probably because inmates do the laundry!) imo and from experience!
 
Charlot123 said:
It may be so that the investigators are trying to understand. The only version that is available might be coming from the perpetrator, and he may be telling something that benefits him, you know? Melissa is not alive to tell the truth. So the police may be trying to reconstruct the truth. It seems that the time she left, 7:22, and the fact that it takes about 20 minutes to drive to the hospital is too tight for anything else. The only other version that in theory might be plausible in our times involves BS being the local neighborhood dealer. However, it doesn’t merge with Melissa’s personality (the first time she was not at work on time, the nurses immediately called the police). It seems that she was too organized, and usually such a scenario would include lack of money and disorganization. Granted, I know some super organized people with this problem, but money would be an issue, and she just had her dream wedding.
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7:22?

pretty sure it's 6:22 last time she locked her door
 
Knox said:
The article I read today, said her apartment is five miles from the hospital and she started work at 7:00 AM. Would it take 20 minutes to go that far? Must be very heavy traffic in the area.
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In the morning? Change of shifts? I assume so. Example: our school is 3.5 miles from my house. It is 10 minutes the fastest without the traffic, and in the drop off/pickup times about 20-25 min minimum. It depends on the time, the roads, the speed limits and the amount of people driving at the same direction in the same time. Plus, parking.
 
Knox said:
The article I read today, said her apartment is five miles from the hospital and she started work at 7:00 AM. Would it take 20 minutes to go that far? Must be very heavy traffic in the area.
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No clue what her exact clock in window would have been, but speaking as a nurse who worked 12-hour inpatient shifts for many years, if her coworkers noticed she wasn’t there at 7am, that’s likely the time she was expected to be “on the floor” (or unit, procedure room, etc, whatever the exact situation was for Melissa). That means her leaving at 6:22 gives her the time to drive, park (which is often times not a close location at busy hospitals and requires shuttles or a 5+ minute walk from employee parking to time clock), get to her unit, put her stuff away, clock in, and get to her work. Obviously all hospitals and nursing positions vary in the workflow but this sequence is fairly standard for 12 hour shifts among several areas of nursing work.
All of that to say- I don’t find anything abnormal about the amount of time she gave herself to go from apartment to hospital.
 
Oregonmama said:
It can be a huge transition for some after high school because the atmosphere is different when your out in the world and not in a classroom. The social awkwardness stood out to me in your post because social settings after high school is quite different. JMO
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Agreed. I guess I just meant maybe his personality or some past behaviors were not a surprise to his family but they were hoping that him getting a girlfriend might make a difference? And as he aged, he only became worse? Just have a feeling, as with many other criminals, that he wasn’t just peachy guy, that this was not his first rodeo with creepy behavior. Jmo
 
I would not be surprised if Melissa’s body was found in his apartment.
Do we know what time it was when LE first tried to speak to him?
Wouldn’t LE have to have a warrant to search his apartment.
Just because they announced at 3 am that her body had been found, it may have been found at the same time he was arrested.Surely they would have let her family know first?
 
LAborn said:
She was with her boyfriend for 10 years before marrying. Most guys (even socially stunted ones) once they learn a woman is "taken"--with a boyfriend or engaged to be married won't hold out hope for reciprocation. A hard "no" usually is enough. <modsnip>
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<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> He had/has a girlfriend...and an attractive one at that!

I'm a guy. I will say that tales of a long distance BF are not always convincing. I'm not defending him, just saying that if she kept the apartment for job convenience her BF may not have been there much if at all. This could have given him hope if he had an infatuation. He could have snapped when she showed up with a wedding ring!
 
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kiwi50 said:
I would not be surprised if Melissa’s body was found in his apartment.
Do we know what time it was when LE first tried to speak to him?
Wouldn’t LE have to have a warrant to search his apartment.
Just because they announced at 3 am that her body had been found, it may have been found at the same time he was arrested.Surely they would have let her family know first?
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I cant shake this feeling also...its very unusual to announce an arrest and finding of a body simultaneously...also not even a whisper of a secondary crime scene.
 
kiwi50 said:
I would not be surprised if Melissa’s body was found in his apartment.
Do we know what time it was when LE first tried to speak to him?
Wouldn’t LE have to have a warrant to search his apartment.
Just because they announced at 3 am that her body had been found, it may have been found at the same time he was arrested.Surely they would have let her family know first?
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Is there a way to approach someone, maybe initially push into own apartment, but then, under some threat of a knife or other weapon, guide her to an elevator, downstairs and out through the back door? Or follow her to the garage car and (if their apartments were close, then perhaps the cars stood close, too?) push to get into his car? There may be a dead space in the garage camera. He could have taken her somewhere close by. Why I don’t think she was in apartment? To conceal a body for 3 days is not something bloodhounds would miss.
 
vls12345 said:
Any ideas as to why the judge would agree to seal the affidavit for the search warrant and summary of evidence? Since it is sealed, does that typically mean it would remain sealed until an actual trial or is it likely it would be unsealed before then?

Do we know if a grand jury has returned an indictment yet? If not, how soon might that be? Could waiting on that be the reason the judge sealed the arrest affidavit and evidence list?
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Not sure why in this case specifically, beyond the usual "might compromise the investigation," since both perp and victim have been located and are in safe custody. In cases where there's significant exploitation of a victim where public details involve minors and/ or are likely extremely distressing or even harmful to survivors we seem to see it also, and whilst redaction is always possible there will no doubt be those who make efforts to guess at redacted material, and so on.

IMO only, but it feels like we're seeing affidavits for PC etc sealed far more regularly of late, often without explanation, and staying that way until / unless a media or other agency brings a case to unseal.

Maybe it's all about ducks in a row, but cases like Sandra Birchmore in MA and quite a few others seem to me compelling arguments for transparency -- though it's very early days for this case, so perhaps we see changes as the state is confident that they've exhausted investigative avenues.

... All of which is the milk-run way of saying "I've got no idea, guv!"

IMO, MOO, etc,
 
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KonaHonu said:
<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> He had/has a girlfriend...and an attractive one at that!

I'm a guy. I will say that tales of a long distance BF are not always convincing. I'm not defending him, just saying that if she kept the apartment for job convenience her BF may not have been there much if at all. This could have given him hope if he had an infatuation. He could have snapped when she showed up with a wedding ring!
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As they say in my mother country, let’s separate the jam from the flies.

1) about the relationship with her husband-to-be. It was a long one, but it is not at all relevant for the case. Moreover, when Bryce graduated from his nursing program, Melissa’s relationship was by no means a long-distance one. She and her fiancée started planning the wedding 1.5 years ago. Also, with her husband being deployed in WA, I assume he was hardly an absent figure in Melissa’s life. Rather, the opposite. He was visiting her in Oregon, or she’d likely go to her home state, Washington, where she grew up and her parents lived, on weekends. Either way, if Bryce was unaware of her situation, it just means he didn’t know her at all, that there was no connection save for living across the hall. The whole hospital knew of Melissa’s forthcoming dream wedding, and BS was unaware?

2) nowhere in the scenario do I see this guy, BS, in the cards. Why him? Just because he was a neighbor? Probably a recent one, and chances are, Melissa started planning her wedding when this guy just graduated from his nursing program. Theirs are totally different life tracks that cross over due to the proximity of their doors in these apartments. He got obsessed with her? His problem, not her fault. He had a family, he was earning money, he could have worked through this.

3) in general, it shouldn’t have mattered at all. Imagine that Melissa were single, working in Oregon and having a family in Washington. Would it have given Bryce more right to attack her? He had no right either way. Melissa was not Bryce’s property, she was a married neighbor and I feel horribly sorry for her widower and her family. Her father’s words broke my heart. I am very glad that they have the dignity to stay away from all these insinuations.
 
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KonaHonu said:
<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> He had/has a girlfriend...and an attractive one at that!

I'm a guy. I will say that tales of a long distance BF are not always convincing. I'm not defending him, just saying that if she kept the apartment for job convenience her BF may not have been there much if at all. This could have given him hope if he had an infatuation. He could have snapped when she showed up with a wedding ring!
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<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> Obviously having a girlfriend had no bearing on him deciding to murder this young woman.
 
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KonaHonu said:
How do you know her move was imminent? I've only heard she was looking for a job there.
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Melissa Jubane and Bryce Schubert: What we know about Oregon nurse’s death, neighbor accused of killing her

A more detailed picture of what allegedly happened is becoming clearer, days after Beaverton police accused Melissa Jubane’s neighbor of murdering her.
www.oregonlive.com www.oregonlive.com
"Llantero’s mother, IL, told the news station that Jubane was planning to get a job in the Bremerton area so she and her husband could live together."
 
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