GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #2

[vega]

Applying the theory of a criminal's awareness space to our crime scene map

We discover the following distance relationships:

Home to Dodge Park: 11.3 Miles
Larch Mountain to WalMart: 11.0 Miles
Dodge Park to Shell, Troutdale: 11.1 Miles
Shell, Troutdale to Larch Mountain 9.7 Miles

Incredibly, three of the geographically diverse crime scene locations have a spatial separation of just 3 tenths of a mile or less !

 

[BelieveinUFO]

via twitter

@KyleIboshi
Neighbors say kids discovered missing Gresham woman's cell phone because it was ringing. #findwhitney

Now that would only mean, this phone was "disposed" or lost by the prep recently. Why would he turn it on and throw it?


I wonder how the police never found out the latest ping on her cell-phone or the area it is coming from. May be they knew and they called it.

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't know if we yet know about the card in her phone (re: if it is in the phone or has been tampered with/is missing)

 

[ozgirl70]

When I ring my husband and he is already on a call, it goes straight to VM.

Do we know how many times Clinton tried to call her? Once? Twice? 15 times?

 

[February]

And Clint's calls were going "straight to voicemail" ? Hmmmmm

The call history and texts received will go a long way toward clearing Clint ....or damning him.

did i read that the kids found the cell around 5:30pm? so clint could be right, it could be off, that's why it is going to voicemail during the time he called in the morning...

The person who dropped the phone there knew that kids play there and just turned it on before leaving it there , i wonder how much battery was still there when they found it...IMO, the person who have/took whitney knows the neighborhood, or from there too

 

[KellyConQueso]

Weird because it was going right to vm by 930 per her husband. When did the kids find the phone exactly?

Cell phone providers can probably turn an Iphone on remotely. When you phone turns off by itself due to a low battery, there is still 5-7% of battery life left. It's just bad for the battery to get down to 0%.

 

[gngr~snap]

When I ring my husband and he is already on a call, it goes straight to VM.

Do we know how many times Clinton tried to call her? Once? Twice? 15 times?

JMO but if her cell was "on" it would have died fast with everyone calling her.
Someone HAD to have shut it off...
if it was ringing it still had the battery!:great:and all it's memory!

 

[StreetcarRider]

Given that the phone was discovered Thursday night, it's possible that someone was able to turn on Heichel's phone or ringer via a remote command.

I guess it's also possible that that phone was ringing non-stop outside an apartment complex for two and a half days. Or maybe the phone hasn't actually been in that location at the Troutdale apartments since Tuesday morning.

 

[princessk]

When it is said the seats were down in the back, was it 1 seat, 2 seats, or a long back seat?

 

[nursebeeme]

https://twitter.com/KyleIboshi

here is the link to Kyle Iboshi's twitter (kgw reporter)

 

[iluvmua]

I wonder if the person who kidnapped Whitney was the one who was calling the phone when the kids found it in order to see if anyone had found it yet.

just thinking out the box.

 

[Knox]

When it is said the seats were down in the back, was it 1 seat, 2 seats, or a long back seat?

During Thursday's news conferences, investigators declined to talk more about the condition of Heichel's SUV when it was found in the Walmart parking lot. But Heichel's husband, Clint, explained what he saw to Good Morning America.

"I noticed that the front passenger side window had been broken out," he said. "She had a little dangling bead thing from the rear view mirror that had been ripped off; the back seats were down, which was odd; there was a rubber mat and the carpet that was in the back and those were on top of the seats. So stuff had been moved."

He said he also noticed mud and grass on the tires.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/...omans-cell-phone-174934981.html?m=y&smobile=y

 

[bdawk20]

Her card has not been found yet, right? Means the perp might still have it. I hope they are of a lower IQ and use it again.

I think what happened is a car jacking/robbery that escalated. They drove her to D Park, and I'm sorry to write that but I think they harmed her there. Hid the body.

Then they went on with her car to the gas station, ATMs machines etc. Then on to L Mountain when it slowly dawned on them what they had done, and decided to ditch first the phone, then the car. Possibly thought of using the card again, so took it with them.

I think the female seen in the car was someone else, an accomplice.

:moo:

She obviously gave up the pin # and control of the truck, so why did the perp even bother taking her at all if the motive was a carjacking/robbery?
I think this was about her. She was the target, not her car or $.
Jmo...

 

[karmagage]

Ok sorry another truck question. Does anyone know if her truck had the option to lock all doors from the driver side even the passenger front door?

For instance if someone in the driver's seat locks the doors and then locks the control to keep them locked and no one can open them except the driver?

 

[rosetattoo]

The more I think about car found in Walmart parking lot and phone found w/ power on near a huge apartment complex, the more I think the person disposing of these things wanted them found. I would be pretty easy to abandon the car off a Forest Service road and chuck the phone in the river if he really wanted to dispose of evidence. It feels more "planted" than "disposed of," which makes me think these locations are intended to lead away from the crime scene.

 

[sarx]

Something is not adding up about the phone.
I believe the police knew where the phone had been, hence how they knew about the 2 parks. While it can take days to get that info. if they have the right connections and can prove urgency it can be done almost immediately.
Top it off with the cruddy battery life of smart phones, the fact that people had likely been calling it like crazy, I just don't see how it would still have battery yesterday evening. moo

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

Not to sleuth him, but why do we not know what Clint's job is? Or ANYTHING about him for that matter?!?!

Carry on.

 

[Daisily]

I don't have a smartphone, but my plain old phone makes a sounds similar to my ringtone when the battery is dying. My husband sets his phone to periodically chime/ring if he has unheard or unread messages. We both use our phones as alarms and to remind us of appointments. I just wonder if it was ringing because someone was calling or just making noise for another reason?

Probably not important though.

 

[Frogzilla]

I know I am a little behind still on this case, but I hadn't seen this before- http://www.kgw.com/news/Timeline-The-Search-for-Whitney-Heichel-174980681.html
Tuesday mid-morning: Whitney's debit card was reportedly used at two more gas stations and an ATM.

 

[Knox]

LE nor the media have not mentioned checking RSO's in the area, very strange. Have I missed that?