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Because that's the narrative (IMO).How was it immediately determined that the shooter acted alone before any investigation had been conducted?
How was it immediately determined that the shooter acted alone before any investigation had been conducted?
Well, I don't trust the federal agencies, at all. From what we saw with the woman who was head of the SS (can't recall her name), we know she lies. Are those lies malicious or do to incompetence? I don't know. I surely do not trust Christopher Wray or Mayorkis. That doesn't mean there aren't good SS or FBI, DHS personnel. Good luck sorting out the truth, eh?So essentially this means that the local LE or SWAT were not told to secure the building TC was on the roof of and fired from ; aka the outer perimeter ?
Thought the secret service said otherwise.
Did they forget, cover up their mistakes, or worse -- lie ?
I like to assume the secret service are trained better than that, and also trained even more thoroughly and intensely that the local LE.
Not dissing PA's LE at all; just that the secret service would know exactly how to ensure the security of not only a former president but all of the attendees as well.
Glad that the PA LE are speaking out !
This is big, imo.
Omo.
Swat team says it had no contact with Secret Service before Trump rally shooting
‘We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing … and that never happened,’ says lead sharpshooter on local Swat team
Swat team says it had no contact with Secret Service before Trump rally shooting
‘We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing … and that never happened,’ says lead sharpshooter on local Swat teamwww.theguardian.com
Can you even fathom that someone walking around with a freaking range finder, a device specifically used to fire at a target, could have been deemed "suspicious" (per the former SS head) and not a threat?! This is madness and nobody should accept this BS.Approximately 20 to 25 minutes before the shooting, officers saw Crooks with a rangefinder — a device used to estimate distances to targets.Dozens of Local Police Officers Were at Trump’s Rally. Very Few Were Watching a Critical Area.
Local law enforcement officials, present in abundance, said they were not assigned security duties around a warehouse used by a man who tried to kill former President Donald Trump.www.nytimes.com
One local officer texted a picture of Crooks to a PSP trooper who was in the Secret Service command center, and that trooper was told by (secret service) agents to forward the picture to another phone number, but Paris said he could not speak to how the Secret Service handled the information beyond that.
RBM
So during this back and forth texting , TC could have been stopped instead ??
2nd bolded : This needs to be answered. Imo.
Police were stationed in building Trump gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks shot from
Multiple security agencies were at the Trump rally. Yet the gunman was still able to shoot unhindered.www.bbc.com
The local police deployment inside the building comprised three snipers, who are alleged to have seen Crooks trying to get on the roof, according to sources quoted by CBS News, the BBC's US partner.
This might answer the question upthread about whether the local PA LE had lost their key to the building and were unable to gain access to it ?
So, did they watch as TC climbed onto the roof ?
If so, this is mind-boggling.
Omo.
Is that true, that Congressman Jackson "has been found" to have engaged in inappropriate conduct, or are those just accusations made against him by possibly disgruntled staff. Is there any link that shows that he has been charged with any of these accusations and found guilty?Ronny Jackson, the former POTUS doctor, has been found to have engaged in 'inappropriate conduct' as a doctor, and I believe does not hold an active medical license, for what it's worth.
MOO
Good questions.Is that true, that Congressman Jackson "has been found" to have engaged in inappropriate conduct, or are those just accusations made against him by possibly disgruntled staff. Is there any link that shows that he has been charged with any of these accusations and found guilty?
<snipped for focus>Well, I don't trust the federal agencies, at all. From what we saw with the woman who was head of the SS (can't recall her name), we know she lies. Are those lies malicious or do to incompetence? I don't know. I surely do not trust Christopher Wray or Mayorkis. That doesn't mean there aren't good SS or FBI, DHS personnel. Good luck sorting out the truth, eh?
RSBMWell, I don't trust the federal agencies, at all. From what we saw with the woman who was head of the SS (can't recall her name), we know she lies. Are those lies malicious or do to incompetence? I don't know. I surely do not trust Christopher Wray or Mayorkis. That doesn't mean there aren't good SS or FBI, DHS personnel. Good luck sorting out the truth, eh?
Is that true, that Congressman Jackson "has been found" to have engaged in inappropriate conduct, or are those just accusations made against him by possibly disgruntled staff. Is there any link that shows that he has been charged with any of these accusations and found guilty?
Cheatle putting out that garbage about the sloped roof having "safety concerns" did it for me. Everything after that is just spin.
Just a suggestion for members who want to dissect President Trump's wounds from the assassination attempt on his life - please post a trigger warning before you post pictures of his wounds out of respect for other members who find these images very upsetting, especially the enlarged images.
Thank you.
I think that if Trump had died, if nobody else got injured or killed, this would have been chalked up as an assassination by a young, mentally ill lone gunman and that would be the end of it. jmhoThis attempt on Trump is as big a deal as previous assassinations (JFK, MLK, RFK, etc) but it's not getting the same level of attention because it failed, with Trump only getting a minor graze wound. He was supposed to end up like Cory. Had Trump's head exploded at the podium, there would be far more media coverage (because they couldn't avoid it) and calls for identifying the perps (not Crooks).
My post wasn't directed at you, or anyone else in particular, just generally. The images, especially the enlarged images, are very distressing. Thanks for your understanding.Apologies, I didn’t consider the images being upsetting for anyone.
Well, he was demoted after the report came out.Is that true, that Congressman Jackson "has been found" to have engaged in inappropriate conduct, or are those just accusations made against him by possibly disgruntled staff. Is there any link that shows that he has been charged with any of these accusations and found guilty?