PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #4

[Sundog]

I think that if Trump had died, if nobody else got injured or killed, this would have been chalked up as an assassination by a young, mentally ill lone gunman and that would be the end of it. jmho

This is the preferred narrative for many in the media and in government, even so early in the investigation.

 

[Sundog]

DBM

 

[Artis]

Ronny Jackson, the former POTUS doctor, has been found to have engaged in 'inappropriate conduct' as a doctor, and I believe does not hold an active medical license, for what it's worth.

MOO

What does that have to do with the assassination attempt or Trump's ear getting patched up in Butler PA?

 

[Maumau1616]

I don’t know if the accusations are true but he was Obama’s WH physician too.

Indeed! Not a political statement, just pointing out that he might not be a totally reliable source of medical information.

 

[Maumau1616]

I didn't see any mention of the Congressman being demoted. IIRC, the article you posted said that he was nominated to serve as director of Veteran Affairs but withdrew his candidacy when the media went after him with their allegations. Perhaps I missed something in the article?

"The Navy demoted him in July 2022 following a damaging Pentagon inspector general’s report that substantiated allegations about his inappropriate behavior as a White House physician, a previously unreported decision confirmed by a current defense official and a former U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive personnel move."

 

[Artis]

Indeed! Not a political statement, just pointing out that he might not be a totally reliable source of medical information.

He's a military doctor with privileges at Walter Reed but it's still irrelevant because Trump went to ER in Butler.

 

[Maumau1616]

What does that have to do with the assassination attempt or Trump's ear getting patched up in Butler PA?

Ronny Jackson wrote in an official report that there was a 2cm gash in formus POTUS' ear, and the wound has been questioned during the hearing by the FBI director.

 

[Artis]

I think that if Trump had died, if nobody else got injured or killed, this would have been chalked up as an assassination by a young, mentally ill lone gunman and that would be the end of it. jmho

For sure certain actors would try to float that story.

 

[Sundog]

Ronny Jackson wrote in an official report that there was a 2cm gash in formus POTUS' ear, and the wound has been questioned during the hearing by the FBI director.

My understanding is tht Christopher Wray, director of the FBI, stated that they didn't know if President Trump was hit by a bullet or shrapnel. Following the hearing, the FBI put out a statement clarifying that President Trump was, indeed, hit with a bullet. I don't recall any questioning of the nature of President Trump's wound during Wray's testimony, only his speculation that it might have been shrapnel and not a bullet which was clarified by the FBI following the hearing - that President Trump was, indeed, hit by a bullet.

 

[Luna20]

Ronny Jackson wrote in an official report that there was a 2cm gash in formus POTUS' ear, and the wound has been questioned during the hearing by the FBI director.

FBI admitted their assumption was wrong and corrected it. It’s upthread, sometime last week. But it’s refreshing to hear that from any institution.

 

[Tricia]

Thread is closing for the night. It will reopen in the morning.
Thanks,
Tricia

 

[Knitty]

Thread is open.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1817739237904548109

 

[Simply Southern]

"The Navy demoted him in July 2022 following a damaging Pentagon inspector general’s report that substantiated allegations about his inappropriate behavior as a White House physician, a previously unreported decision confirmed by a current defense official and a former U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive personnel move."

Kind of unusual for the Navy to wait until 2022 to demote somebody for allegations made in 2014, under Obama.

I noticed everyone spoke anonymously and I've not been able to find anything official.
Moo

 

[Inthedetails]

Just a suggestion for members who want to dissect President Trump's wounds from the assassination attempt on his life - please post a trigger warning before you post pictures of his wounds out of respect for other members who find these images very upsetting, especially the enlarged images.

Thank you.

Yes!!!! Please don't post photos of bloody injuries. It's very upsetting for some people (like me) to scroll through the thread and encounter them.

Post a link, but not the actual photo, PLEASE.

jmo

 

[Simply Southern]

My understanding is tht Christopher Wray, director of the FBI, stated that they didn't know if President Trump was hit by a bullet or shrapnel. Following the hearing, the FBI put out a statement clarifying that President Trump was, indeed, hit with a bullet. I don't recall any questioning of the nature of President Trump's wound during Wray's testimony, only his speculation that it might have been shrapnel and not a bullet which was clarified by the FBI following the hearing - that President Trump was, indeed, hit by a bullet.

Yes, he volunteered the information, later retracted.

FBI and SS directors have made numerous statements that have had to be retracted.

I hope these Congressional hearings will eventually invite/subpoena all local involved in the Butler rally.

I think the committee will need all three parts/plans for security, the Secret Service site plan, all written contracts, correspondence, video, radio traffic, and personal interviews.

There's an old saying....
Folks are only going to tell you what makes them look good. The truth is somewhere in the middle.


Moo

 

[Mica]

Kind of unusual for the Navy to wait until 2022 to demote somebody for allegations made in 2014, under Obama.

I noticed everyone spoke anonymously and I've not been able to find anything official.
Moo

Agree. In 2018 when Trump nominated Jackson to head the Dept. of Veterans Affairs is when the allegations of 2014 and March, 2016 went public. Two year delay. Inspector General’s Report was completed in 2021.


Jackson pushed back against the findings, telling reporters that Democrats were “using this report to repeat and rehash untrue attacks on my integrity” because "I have refused to turn my back on President Trump."

Rep. Ronny Jackson was demoted by Navy after scathing Pentagon review, records show

Jackson, R-Texas, the former White House physician who retired with a rank of rear admiral in 2019, is now listed as a retired captain.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Ontario Mom]

Agree. In 2018 when Trump nominated Jackson to head the Dept. of Veterans Affairs is when the allegations of 2014 and March, 2016 went public. Two year delay. Inspector General’s Report was completed in 2021.


Jackson pushed back against the findings, telling reporters that Democrats were “using this report to repeat and rehash untrue attacks on my integrity” because "I have refused to turn my back on President Trump."

Rep. Ronny Jackson was demoted by Navy after scathing Pentagon review, records show

Jackson, R-Texas, the former White House physician who retired with a rank of rear admiral in 2019, is now listed as a retired captain.

www.nbcnews.com

It seems to me the attempt to discredit the doctor is really just yet another attempt to downplay the gravity of what actually happened.

Come on now, we can't believe this Jackson character knows 2cm from 2 miles because he's been accused of this & that & the other which, while not at all associated with medical practice in any way, is certainly juicy enough for us all to question if he knows how to doctor. Or measure.

Yep, makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Simply Southern]

Agree. In 2018 when Trump nominated Jackson to head the Dept. of Veterans Affairs is when the allegations of 2014 and March, 2016 went public. Two year delay. Inspector General’s Report was completed in 2021.


Jackson pushed back against the findings, telling reporters that Democrats were “using this report to repeat and rehash untrue attacks on my integrity” because "I have refused to turn my back on President Trump."

Rep. Ronny Jackson was demoted by Navy after scathing Pentagon review, records show

Jackson, R-Texas, the former White House physician who retired with a rank of rear admiral in 2019, is now listed as a retired captain.

www.nbcnews.com

Still on Obama's watch. I do believe, if in fact, the 2014 allegations were found credible under Obama's watch, he would have dismissed him. MOO, his administration did not tolerate sexual harassment.

He continued on as Physician to the President until 2020.
Moo

 

[Elley Mae]

Newly surfaced texts show Trump rally gunman was on authorities’ radar more than 90 minutes before shooting: report

Texts messages between members of Beaver County Emergency Service Unit obtained by the New York Times revealed an earlier timeline leading up to the shooting than previously disclosed.

nypost.com