PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #5

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IHAVENOCLUE said:
Speaking of the deceased criminal on the roof...

I still am wondering why investigators hosed down the roof so rapidly...
I would think the crime scene would have been kept intact for a longer time...
as it seems I have seen in other cases...
especially a crime scene with such major importance.

Additionally...
I am quite surprised that his cremation was ordered after such a short time...
for reasons stated above...

All JMO....
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I think you are not alone with these questions. OMO.
 
Betty P said:
It appeared, JMO, local LE was handling the crime scene. Was it county LE? They were the ones who hosed down the roof. Perhaps they weren't familiar with how to do that type of investigation and neglected to ask someone higher up the chain of command?

Too many chefs and not enough cooks.
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One of preliminary reports, either Grassley’s office or Congressional, stated that FBI did hosing.

ADDED: The report was an attachment to a recent post. I tried searching for it but I think because it’s an attachment and not in body of posted text, it doesn’t come up in search. The author/ congressional rep who wrote the report is former LE. Did anyone bookmark the report?
 
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CCJD said:
Edited: replied to wrong post. @IHAVENOCLUE

From Reuters - July 16, 2024
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Thanks! No date or time when that took place, though.

FBI would be the ones authorized to make the decision to rinse off the crime scene. They're in charge of the investigation and would have the most experience in managing crime scenes and securing evidence.

They had blood they tested from the victim at autopsy; they probably took a lot of photos and probably took samples at the crime scene, too, so I'm not sure why hosing the blood off the roof is a bad thing. It's what you do after the evidence has been gathered. They had the weapon, the shells, the body and possessions of the killer. They knew his identity and searched his vehicle, home, cell phone records, computer, online accounts, etc. Don't forget all the photos, video and audio from LE and people at the event.

The results will come out in a final report, if it hasn't been released already. Anything else at this point is speculation, right?
 

New details emerge in Trump assassination attempt investigation​

The FBI said it was investigating the shooting as potential domestic terrorism.
ByPierre Thomas, Aaron Katersky, Kevin Shalvey, and Luke Barr
Video byEmmanuelle Saliba and Jessie DiMartino
July 16, 2024, 1:53 PM



PHOTO: An FBI investigator hoses off a rooftop where a gunman had been positioned during former U.S. President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 14, 2024.

An FBI investigator hoses off a rooftop where a gunman had been positioned during the law enforcement investigation into gunfire at a campaign rally of Republican presidential candidate and former U.S. President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, U.S. July 14, 2024.
Carlos Osorio/Reuters

abcnews.go.com



Note description of pic above.

Assassination attempt = July 13, 2024

Hose down of roof = July 14, 2024

Date/time of this article: = July 16, 2024 @ 1:53 p.m.

Therefore...
According to the math...
roof was hosed down the day after the assassination attempt.

JMO
 
fred&edna said:
www.c-span.org

House Republican Forum on the Attempted Assassination of Former President Trump

Reps. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Eli Crane (R-AZ), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Cory Mills (R-FL), and Chip Roy (R-TX) hosted a forum on the attempted assassination of former President Trump. Dan Bongino, a former United States Secret Service special agent; Erik Prince, former United States Navy SEAL officer; and...
www.c-span.org www.c-span.org
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They're right to do this, as any of them could one day be next ?
It's not just former presidents who could be targeted, it could be someone that's a public figure or speaking at an event.
Omo.
 
IHAVENOCLUE said:

New details emerge in Trump assassination attempt investigation​

The FBI said it was investigating the shooting as potential domestic terrorism.
ByPierre Thomas, Aaron Katersky, Kevin Shalvey, and Luke Barr
Video byEmmanuelle Saliba and Jessie DiMartino
July 16, 2024, 1:53 PM



PHOTO: An FBI investigator hoses off a rooftop where a gunman had been positioned during former U.S. President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 14, 2024.'s campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on July 14, 2024.

An FBI investigator hoses off a rooftop where a gunman had been positioned during the law enforcement investigation into gunfire at a campaign rally of Republican presidential candidate and former U.S. President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, U.S. July 14, 2024.
Carlos Osorio/Reuters

abcnews.go.com



Note description of pic above.

Assassination attempt = July 13, 2024

Hose down of roof = July 14, 2024

Date/time of this article: = July 16, 2024 @ 1:53 p.m.

Therefore...
According to the math...
roof was hosed down the day after the assassination attempt.

JMO
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I don’t know the crime clean up protocol but this even looks odd. Maybe it was a reflex reaction, a clean-freak investigator just wanting to get the blood off before it was baked into the roof?

Otherwise I don’t know why they wouldn’t wait until the scene was officially photographed and investigated. Blood splatter, radius, etc to provide the details accordingly.
 
Luna20 said:
I don’t know the crime clean up protocol but this even looks odd. Maybe it was a reflex reaction, a clean-freak investigator just wanting to get the blood off before it was baked into the roof?

Otherwise I don’t know why they wouldn’t wait until the scene was officially photographed and investigated. Blood splatter, radius, etc to provide the details accordingly.
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JMO...

If this was a stand alone questionable action of FBI and SS regarding the assassination attempt...
It would not stand out much...

However... since this is one of SOOO many questionable actions...
AND... the two organizations avoiding answers to these actions (and lack of in some cases)....
It is concerning that we are where we are at in this investigation.
 
IHAVENOCLUE said:
JMO...

If this was a stand alone questionable action of FBI and SS regarding the assassination attempt...
It would not stand out much...

However... since this is one of SOOO many questionable actions...
AND... the two organizations avoiding answers to these actions (and lack of in some cases)....
It is concerning that we are where we are at in this investigation.
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Agree. Combined with the fact that there are people who want him eliminated, it is odd.
 
Luna20 said:
I don’t know the crime clean up protocol but this even looks odd. Maybe it was a reflex reaction, a clean-freak investigator just wanting to get the blood off before it was baked into the roof?

Otherwise I don’t know why they wouldn’t wait until the scene was officially photographed and investigated. Blood splatter, radius, etc to provide the details accordingly.
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Does LE of any kind clean up crime scenes??????? I thought that was the property owner's responsibility.
 
IHAVENOCLUE said:
Thank you digging up this info.

Interesting that FBI hosed down the crime scene so soon after the crime...

JMO
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Article dated 16th rally was 13th so probably 3 days or less after shooting.

Seems that some of their authority over crime scenes should be taken away so they can’t cover their mistakes or wrongdoings.
 
OddOneOut said:
Does LE of any kind clean up crime scenes??????? I thought that was the property owner's responsibility.
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LE commonly does not offer any kind of crime scene cleanup. It is 100% the owner's repsonsibility and there are several companies out there that do this exact work.

I can't think of a single reason that agent would be up there with a hose, except that he wanted evidence gone. Why, is anyone's guess.
 
The task force has set a deadline of Dec. 13 to submit a final report on its findings.

www.butlereagle.com

Task force getting information on assassination attempt from FBI

CONNOQUENESSING TWP — The Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Donald J. Trump has received “partial information” from federal agencies working on investigations of the July 13 assassination a...
www.butlereagle.com www.butlereagle.com

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5 months for the final report.
 
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