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....and of all things you never knew in life? My mother just told me she married my biological father in that Church.

Edit to say that was 1959. I had to check if I was legitimate. The only photos I have ever seen my mom ripped the head off my bio father so photos are out of the question.
 
....and of all things you never knew in life? My mother just told me she married my biological father in that Church.

Edit to say that was 1959. I had to check if I was legitimate. The only photos I have ever seen my mom ripped the head off my bio father so photos are out of the question.

I had to laugh, my mother did same, well, to her first husband, not your father :)

Had to edit to say, she didn't literally rip his head off, it was just the photograph she killed.
 
You guys have all done a wonderful, wonderful job here. I promise not to interject save for my mom said she distinctly recalls something about the bike being locked? She remembers thinking that gave someone time to seriously prepare to hurt that beautiful child.

Honestly I didn't know she was going to Grundy library. I thought she was going into Church of which my mom reminded me you'd never go into Church back then without something for your head.

Prayers for you all. Thank you for remembering this beautiful child.
 
Filly, I think the head covering is an adult woman thing.
Wasn't it the door of the church that was locked and not the bike ?
 
Filly, I think the head covering is an adult woman thing.
Wasn't it the door of the church that was locked and not the bike ?

Sorry Robin. I was just going on my mom's memory of the bike. The kids said the door of the Church was locked. I'm around that age and back in the day you could pop in Church almost any time of day and say a prayer or light a candle.

However, we had to cover our heads. Women and girls. If you didn't have a little veil thingie we'd have to put a Kleenex on our head with a bobbypin or just about anything, but our heads had to be covered.

Spending time at the library would give someone alot of time to watch a child. However would they know the layout of the Church?
 
Sorry Robin. I was just going on my mom's memory of the bike. The kids said the door of the Church was locked. I'm around that age and back in the day you could pop in Church almost any time of day and say a prayer or light a candle.

However, we had to cover our heads. Women and girls. If you didn't have a little veil thingie we'd have to put a Kleenex on our head with a bobbypin or just about anything, but our heads had to be covered.

Spending time at the library would give someone alot of time to watch a child. However would they know the layout of the Church?

I think it would be any female who had their holy communion? Isn't that when they are technically subject to the Laws of the church?
 
From what I gather she was on her way to meet friends at the library, was passing the church, put down her bike and went in. When she didn't show, her friends walked past the church, saw the bike and tried the door but it was locked. Her mum was looking for her, saw the bike and stepped into the church (now unlocked) but wouldn't enter fully because her head wasn't covered.Went back and got her father who went in and discovered Carol Ann.
 
From what I gather she was on her way to meet friends at the library, was passing the church, put down her bike and went in. When she didn't show, her friends walked past the church, saw the bike and tried the door but it was locked. Her mum was looking for her, saw the bike and stepped into the church (now unlocked) but wouldn't enter fully because her head wasn't covered.Went back and got her father who went in and discovered Carol Ann.

See I am getting accounts of that day with variations based on articles.
 
I think it would be any female who had their holy communion? Isn't that when they are technically subject to the Laws of the church?


You're asking a Catholic who went to communion before she made her communion, P. Honestly I don't know. I just always remember it being a huge deal, and having huge hats. I'll look it up.

In the Presence of the Eucharist all females had to cover their heads until Canon Law changed that. This brings up a good question though. At what age did they make Communion at that Church? Communion means confession which used to bring us to Church on Saturday's.
 
See I am getting accounts of that day with variations based on articles.

Right. Her mom saw the bike with the books attached to the bike rack thing.

Again I am sorry if I confused anything.
 
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Trying this.. Source Coshocton Tribune Coshocton, Ohio Oct 23, 1962


Just want to make sure I am doing this correctly.!

In this article it says that the mother went in for the child and could not find her.
 
Found the mothers grave..

Birth: unknown
Death: Feb. 4, 1975

Daughter of Miller H and Helen Wynings Shuman. Wife of Frank J Dougherty. Member of Good Shepherd Lutheran Church, Berwick.

Burial:
Pine Grove Cemetery Walnut Street
Berwick
Columbia County
Pennsylvania, USA
 
http://articles.philly.com/1994-04-12/news/25864576_1_grand-jury-mystery-bike/2

''By 4:30 p.m., Carol Ann's mom, Dorothy, was worried. Carol Ann was never late. Dorothy Dougherty drove the family car toward the library. She saw Carol Ann's bike at the church and stopped. The big church door opened easily and she glanced inside. Without something to wear on her head, traditional for women worshippers at the time, she left quickly and sped home, to get her husband''
 
Ok. I think I can help with some of the Catholic stuff. Technically, you are not fully subject to the laws of the church until you are confirmed. Certain traditions (such as fasting on fridays and before communion) had age requirements and you could be issued dispensations if you had a medical reason or some such. I know someone who would pass out in church all the time so she got to eat before communion.

As for covering women's heads, this is where it gets a little weird. Technically, the canon law requiring women cover their heads in church was in effect from 1917 to 1983. The Canon in 1983 did NOT revoke the need to wear veils, but didn't reiterate it either. However, with the exception of Easter Sunday and my First Holy Communion, I never wore a hat or a veil. It fell out of favor in the late 60s and early 70s in the US. Elsewhere in the world, Catholic women often still wear veils, mantillas or babushkas. And, if you are having an audience with the Pope, your should wear a black mantilla, unless you are a Catholic queen, in which case you can wear a white mantilla.
 
http://articles.philly.com/1994-04-12/news/25864576_1_grand-jury-mystery-bike/2

''By 4:30 p.m., Carol Ann's mom, Dorothy, was worried. Carol Ann was never late. Dorothy Dougherty drove the family car toward the library. She saw Carol Ann's bike at the church and stopped. The big church door opened easily and she glanced inside. Without something to wear on her head, traditional for women worshippers at the time, she left quickly and sped home, to get her husband''

And then that one article says she did go inside and not find her. I am trying to get another source to back that up. I have a very long article that I am not sure how to post here. I can not find a link except in my Ancestry.com. i can type it all out but it will take a long time. It is almost a full page so bear with me.
 
Ok. I think I can help with some of the Catholic stuff. Technically, you are not fully subject to the laws of the church until you are confirmed. Certain traditions (such as fasting on fridays and before communion) had age requirements and you could be issued dispensations if you had a medical reason or some such. I know someone who would pass out in church all the time so she got to eat before communion.

As for covering women's heads, this is where it gets a little weird. Technically, the canon law requiring women cover their heads in church was in effect from 1917 to 1983. The Canon in 1983 did NOT revoke the need to wear veils, but didn't reiterate it either. However, with the exception of Easter Sunday and my First Holy Communion, I never wore a hat or a veil. It fell out of favor in the late 60s and early 70s in the US. Elsewhere in the world, Catholic women often still wear veils, mantillas or babushkas. And, if you are having an audience with the Pope, your should wear a black mantilla, unless you are a Catholic queen, in which case you can wear a white mantilla.

So about what age is confirmation vs Holy Communion? And thanks for this! I am lost on the Catholic rules and laws.
 
And then that one article says she did go inside and not find her. I am trying to get another source to back that up. I have a very long article that I am not sure how to post here. I can not find a link except in my Ancestry.com. i can type it all out but it will take a long time. It is almost a full page so bear with me.

Ask/PM a mod, maybe they can make a suggestion to a way of linking it.
 

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