PA - Conner Snyder, 8, & Brinley, 4, hangings, Berks Co., 23 Sept 2019 *Mom arrested* *GRAPHIC* #2

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Prior to their deaths, the children were under the observation of social services. “Assessment and ongoing case management services were provided to Connor and Brinley Snyder through Berks County Children and Youth Services,” according to a spokesperson from the state’s Department of Human Services.
‘Psychological autopsy’ possible for mysterious deaths of two children found hanging by a dog leash line in basement

I believe the "Crimeonline" story is contrary to other reports which state CYS was involved with the family in 2014. I don't think there's any confirmation that the victims were under the observation of social services. MOO
 
So called child protective services still in CYA mode,instead of protecting children. SMH. Talking in circles,making excuses. Oh let's have a review blah,blah,blah. You don't need another review. Do your job, quit sending children back to death homes period. Quit bending over for abusers. They are not who you are supposed Ally yourselves with. You are not supposed to work for the abusers. Your sole job, your only client is the children. So disgusted with these people. We care so much, blah blah,blah, we are broken hearted, blah,blah,blah. At this very moment they are likely sending another abused child back to a death home as we speak. That is the only thing you can count on from these people,and these entities. More deaths under their watch. They need to just Shut it. Until they have Zero child deaths under their watch,and power.
MOO
 
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In case of Berks County mom accused of killing children by hanging, did the system fail?

Dec 6, 2019

The horrifying deaths of 4-year-old Brinley and 8-year-old Conner Snyder are prompting renewed scrutiny of Pennsylvania’s child welfare system, even as they raise unanswered questions of what would motivate a mother to allegedly kill her children.

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It is one of many aspects of Snyder’s arrest that is stirring public calls for answers. Authorities have not detailed a suspected motive in the killings, in which police charge Snyder used a basement beam and a dog lead to rig two loops that choked away her children’s lives in Albany Township. Experts on family violence described the alleged method of death as rare, saying mothers who kill their children more typically do so through less violent methods such as suffocation, drowning or drug overdoses.

‘Shrouded in secrecy’
On the child welfare front, Snyder’s case is under scrutiny because Berks County Children and Youth had previously been involved with the family. Authorities have not detailed the circumstances that led a judge in 2014 to temporarily remove Conner and an older brother from Snyder’s custody. Within months, the boys were returned to their mother’s care, and the child protection case was closed in November 2015 ― three months after Brinley was born ― ending caseworkers’ supervision of the family.

[..]

Why do parents kill?
In the meantime, police, school officials and residents of northeastern Berks County are grappling with a more immediate question: Why?

Dr. Phillip Resnick, a professor of psychiatry at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, has spent a career studying parents who kill their children. The motivations fall into several general categories, according to Resnick, who said he could not speak to the specifics of Snyder’s case.

Some parents kill out of altruistic motives, however skewed ― the sense that a child would be better off dead than alive, Resnick said. Others want to get rid of unwanted children. Some are acutely psychotic and lose touch with reality. Others kill accidentally through child abuse, or act out of revenge ― a desire to see a romantic partner suffer the loss of their children.

[..]

“Was she overwhelmed? Was she depressed? Did she have any psychotic thoughts about the children, or were they simply in the way for her?” Resnick asked.

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Resnick, a nationally recognized expert on filicide, or the killing of a child by a parent, said his research suggests hanging is a “very unusual method.”

“I don’t remember if I’ve ever seen a case, especially a double-hanging,” said Resnick.

Jack Levin, a criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston who studies family murder, called the allegations against Snyder “strange in so many respects” and said it is difficult to develop a likely profile of her as a result.
 
"pull the plug" - ugh, she said that!! In a text!!! about her own kids!!! (Per link in post #409^) nothing should surprise me anymore.

ETA: and this is sad:
For this story, The Morning Call reached out to more than a dozen people about Snyder, including her mother and relatives who are caring for her surviving son. They declined to comment or did not respond to messages.

a dozen people. NO ONE wanted to say ANYTHING.
 

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In one of the messages, Snyder allegedly asked [this friend] “for a small favor” ― that she take Snyder’s dog, a 5-month-old pitbull and husky mix. Snyder appeared to ask for compensation for the pet, saying she wanted to “charge a small rehoming fee,” but would include his toys, cage and food.

“I’m never home and it’s not fair to him to be in his cage all the time,” the message read, “he’s free if you are.”

That dog appears to be the same pet referenced in one lurid allegation against Snyder: that in the days leading up to her children’s deaths, she sent an unnamed man photos of herself having sex with her dog. Adams, the district attorney, has said that Snyder later “sent the dog away,” but that it has been located by authorities. Adams has not disclosed its whereabouts.

Other Snyder messages repeatedly referenced heartbreak and the police probe, often at the same time. Friends and family were “spreading straight out lies” and had “completely tarnished” her name, the messages complained.

“They will see im innocent once everything is said n done,” Snyder allegedly wrote. “I can’t even imagine how they would think I would ever hurt my sweet children.”

Snyder’s doubters, the messages vowed, will be proven wrong.

The “truth will come out when the investigation is over,” Snyder allegedly wrote, “and my *advertiser censored** is not in jail.”
 
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The "updates" are so cold. It's like she's talking about someone she doesn't even care that much about. Like, when someone we know of dies or is in accident, but we have no relationship with them, and we're just commenting on the tragedy. That's exactly how she sounds like. But still, I would be way more touched regarding a stranger than she is regarding her own children.
 
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In one of the messages, Snyder allegedly asked [this friend] “for a small favor” ― that she take Snyder’s dog, a 5-month-old pitbull and husky mix. Snyder appeared to ask for compensation for the pet, saying she wanted to “charge a small rehoming fee,” but would include his toys, cage and food.

“I’m never home and it’s not fair to him to be in his cage all the time,” the message read, “he’s free if you are.”

That dog appears to be the same pet referenced in one lurid allegation against Snyder: that in the days leading up to her children’s deaths, she sent an unnamed man photos of herself having sex with her dog. Adams, the district attorney, has said that Snyder later “sent the dog away,” but that it has been located by authorities. Adams has not disclosed its whereabouts.

Other Snyder messages repeatedly referenced heartbreak and the police probe, often at the same time. Friends and family were “spreading straight out lies” and had “completely tarnished” her name, the messages complained.

“They will see im innocent once everything is said n done,” Snyder allegedly wrote. “I can’t even imagine how they would think I would ever hurt my sweet children.”

Snyder’s doubters, the messages vowed, will be proven wrong.

The “truth will come out when the investigation is over,” Snyder allegedly wrote, “and my *advertiser censored** is not in jail.”
Your *advertiser censored** is in jail now.
 
I'm a little bit behind in this case. Holy crow, what a mess of poor impulse control! I just read one of the stories on another site and came here to get the details and nuanced opinions from a more seasoned crowd, as usual. My biggest #1 question, who the hell was the "daddy" she sent the dog pics to while complaining about her "kid problems" and what role did he play in this tragedy?
 
Maigan Sandt said accused murderer Lisa Snyder dated her brother in 2016. She said she had known Snyder for years and although she didn’t see Snyder as much after her brother passed away, she never would have guessed Snyder would harm her own children.

Sandt said she saw Snyder’s two youngest children, Conner and Brinley, many times. The children seemed happy and Snyder appeared to be a caring mother, Sandt said.

I’ve met the kids many times, my brother dated her before he passed away,” Sandt told CrimeOnline. “She didn’t seem like a bad mom, the kids never showed signs of being unhappy when I saw them.”

Snyder also allegedly told Sandt that she took medicine for depression. Sandt said Snyder told her that she was “getting better” and never mentioned anything about wanting to harm her children.

“I NEVER expected this to happen but when I saw the news and realized it was her, I had that gut feeling because it just all seemed impossible for Conner to do.”

Sandt reached out to Snyder, offering her sympathy when she learned the children were in the hospital on life support.

Sandt said she was surprised by Snyder’s emotionless reaction to the situation, even referring to the doctors “pulling the plug” when the children showed no brain activity. Sandt said she surmised that Snyder was likely in shock over the situation.
Friend of mother accused of killing children found hanging in basement says the kids seemed happy while suspect complained of depression [EXCLUSIVE]
 
Woman ordered to trial in case of kids' hanging deaths

Formal arraignment is March 12th.

From the article: "READING, Pa. - A Berks County woman was ordered to stand trial on murder charges in the hanging deaths of two of her children.

Lisa Snyder appeared before a judge at the Berks County Courthouse in downtown Reading for her preliminary hearing on Wednesday."
 
Woman ordered to trial in case of kids' hanging deaths

Formal arraignment is March 12th.

From the article: "READING, Pa. - A Berks County woman was ordered to stand trial on murder charges in the hanging deaths of two of her children.

Lisa Snyder appeared before a judge at the Berks County Courthouse in downtown Reading for her preliminary hearing on Wednesday."
Hoping for swift and formidable justice for these innocent children who suffered the most unfathomable death I've ever heard about. :(

Lock up this monster and throw away the key, please!!!
 

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