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Yes, Kathleen McChesney's diaryIs this from the investigator's notes?
Yes, Kathleen McChesney's diaryIs this from the investigator's notes?
Mike's incident was making the rounds in State College in 2004.Would not surprise me if Gricar learned of it indirectly.
Like I said, I was not assuming it was Sandusky.Yes, Kathleen McChesney's diary
Not chargeable but may have deeply affected Ray to learn that whatever plan he may have worked out in 1998 didn't work.A rumor is not chargeable. Remember again that the Centre County DA's Office did not have any investigator, and did not investigate.
Not a reason to walk away of kill yourself either.Not chargeable but may have deeply affected Ray to learn that whatever plan he may have worked out in 1998 didn't work.
Then why was that not revealed? Further, why wait 6 1/2 years.
It was kind of obvious why it had to wait so long. People at Penn State kept resisting LE and covering it up. My impression is that Ray wanted to pursue charges against Sandusky after personally hearing him confess to the boy's mother that he molested him in the shower. But Ray was told he shouldn't bring charges. It's possible he investigated any new information that came up. Due to the sensitive nature, he may have handled it himself.
RFG never investigated anything on his own. He did not have the resources to do it. That is the problem with the entire Sandusky theory.
He did in the case of the victim whose mother was the first to report. He met with the mother and her son. He devised a plan whereby the mother would get Sandusky to come to her home to explain what he did with her son in the shower room. Ray Gricar and LE went into another room and listened while the mother confronted Sandusky. He confessed.
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Ray Gricar mystery: 2012 story examines Gricar’s fiercely private life, ladies’ man reputation
Writer Sara Ganim three years ago used the anniversary of the Centre County prosecutor's disappearance to focus on the women that were a significant part of his life.www.pennlive.com
The recording on Ray's dictaphone mentioned above took place in 1998. He and others were still meeting with the sports dept folks.
The other link I posted states Ray came up with the plan. He was not LE but he was involved with the investigation. They were successful in getting a confession from Sandusky.According to Scheffler, he came up with the plan. RFG was not even there. SCPD Officer Ralston was.
The meeting may not have been about Sandusky. It may have been about the person they would be meeting.
Scheffler was there. You had a few people, Buehner in particular, saying, after the account of the sting was published, **That sounds like something Ray would do," but they were not there.The other link I posted states Ray came up with the plan. He was not LE but he was involved with the investigation. They were successful in getting a confession from Sandusky.
We know everyone in that county was afraid of causing problems
for Penn State. If Ray wanted to continue asking questions, he probably knew he would have to do so outside the system.
Scheffler was there. You had a few people, Buehner in particular, saying, after the account of the sting was published, **That sounds like something Ray would do," but they were not there.
There was no, "outside the system" for RFG. He relied on LE for doing anything like that. BTW, in most of these counties, that is how the DA's Office works.
So they had Sandusky observed apologizing to the mother of his victim for molesting him in the shower, but there was no reason to indict? Even though Sandusky admitted doing it? These were all the facts that later came to light that left a nation shaking its head in disbelief that Sandusky was allowed to continue abusing kids for so many years. Its not in question that the system wasn't working when it came to Sandusky. Penn State shares a lot of the blame, but local LE and prosecutors are also complicit. That's established fact.
That is not an accurate characterization. Neither Sandausky, nor Victim 6, claimed molestation. Sandusky was charged and convicted of "unlawful contact with a minor."
Othere than the PSU police handling the case, this incident did not involve PSU so far as has been revealed.
It does not meet the definition of most charges. In relation to the same victim, Sandusky was acquitted of the charge "Indecent Assault." It did not meet the legal definition: Section 3126 - Title 18 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES It was necessary to show that it was "for the purpose of arousing sexual desire in the person or the complainant."The activities he engaged in with Victim 6 would be considered a form of molestation by most juries - naked in the shower with the boy, rubbing on him, squeezing and hugging him from behind, soaping up his body. Yeah. Victim 6 said once Sandusky lifted him up he "blacked out" can't recall what happened. Sandusky admitted to those actions.
What was PSU paying Seasock for post-1998?That is not an accurate characterization. Neither Sandausky, nor Victim 6, claimed molestation. Sandusky was charged and convicted of "unlawful contact with a minor."
Othere than the PSU police handling the case, this incident did not involve PSU so far as has been revealed.
I do not believe so. Please go to the Sandusky section for these types of questions.What was PSU paying Seasock for post-1998?