It is a good question, but to have a reasonable explanation requires one to crawl inside her brain. I think it is all about body language. Some people have no idea of this and what they are communicating. I notice that PWL always holds her head up, while "normal" people usually hang their head. This is what we would expect of her. But she might have been taught as a child to always hold her head up no matter what. That holding her head up expresses confidence. But in this situation, it expresses arrogance, when she should be expressing shame or remorse. I think that on top of all of her other problems she is simply not aware, or simply does not care about what message she is communicating.
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It is a good question, but to have a reasonable explanation requires one to crawl inside her brain. I think it is all about body language. Some people have no idea of this and what they are communicating. I notice that PWL always holds her head up, while "normal" people usually hang their head. This is what we would expect of her. But she might have been taught as a child to always hold her head up no matter what. That holding her head up expresses confidence. But in this situation, it expresses arrogance, when she should be expressing shame or remorse. I think that on top of all of her other problems she is simply not aware, or simply does not care about what message she is communicating.
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Why isn't PLW the least bit scared to go out to restaurants? Is nobody connected to the crime wanting to shut her up? Is she being protected by someone with higher connections? She seems so unworried.
LE has nothing on her or she would be in jail. She's not being followed, they've got all the can get on her.
Obviously, LE does not believe the felons that have put her at the scene. They are so busy pointing the finger at each other.
Obviously, LE does not believe the felons that have put her at the scene. They are so busy pointing the finger at each other.
Here is the link to the court document about this:
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml.asp?ucase_id=735065
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml.asp?ucase_id=735065
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A state agency plans to investigate claims that Pamela Wiggins participated in food stamp fraud.
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090727/NEWS01/90727011
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090727/NEWS01/90727011
Food Stamp Fraud???? A woman who owned a Yacht and a Rolls? I did not see that coming. What is next? How can someone with such a previously "clean" record have so many different legal problems?
Interesting! That might help explain how she always seemed to have money.
From what I hear and from what I've observed from a distance and through news reports over the years, food stamps can buy a lot of things. Expensive boats, I guess a yacht could qualify, million dollars+ homes, vacation homes in exotic places, private plane, never saw a Rolls, but saw a Lamborghini, close enough.
Fortunately, the gov't has made it harder to pull off with the debit type cards, as opposed to the coupon books that could easily be sold for cash.
Combine the food stamps with AFDC prior to the cut-off and scammed disability payments the people involved with the frauds, were extremely well off.
From what I hear and from what I've observed from a distance and through news reports over the years, food stamps can buy a lot of things. Expensive boats, I guess a yacht could qualify, million dollars+ homes, vacation homes in exotic places, private plane, never saw a Rolls, but saw a Lamborghini, close enough.
Fortunately, the gov't has made it harder to pull off with the debit type cards, as opposed to the coupon books that could easily be sold for cash.
Combine the food stamps with AFDC prior to the cut-off and scammed disability payments the people involved with the frauds, were extremely well off.
Exactly! A person doesn't have to be eligible for food stamps to commit fraud with them. Paper food stamps and even the debit type cards can be bought and sold for profit. Many recipients would rather have a little cash with no restrictions than have a food stamp or card. The buyer can then sell it again or use a retail connection to extract the cash.
From what I hear and from what I've observed from a distance and through news reports over the years, food stamps can buy a lot of things. Expensive boats, I guess a yacht could qualify, million dollars+ homes, vacation homes in exotic places, private plane, never saw a Rolls, but saw a Lamborghini, close enough.
Ok, but now help me to understand this. PWL is now being investigated for:
* Accessory to murder
* EPA violations
* Bigamy
* Food stamp fraud
* Arson
If there is truth to these allegations, she probably has been walking the tightrope for YEARS. But she has never been arrested for anything until now as far as I know.
Was she just lucky until now and her luck ran out?
OR
Was it the fact that she was so wealthy that investigators looked the other way?
OR
Has someone been "protecting" her?
Let me see if I understand this correctly:
In 1999 Pamela has Ronnie Link arrested for domestic violence:
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=2d5cb198bc0ed3e858eeba4be638aa38
In August 2001, Ronnie Link files an injunction on Pamela Long. Note that on 9/12/2001, she is refered to as Pamela Link (is it someone else? They were not yet married).
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=550fd703eb5dba005029e2967daca16f
Here is a marriage cert between Pamala Long and Ronald Link, showing they got married 3/13/2002
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/MyImages/2002949061.pdf
Here is some kind of dissolution in 2003
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=00dec33a25e3dae89f7c86d3ffc64e0c
So, arrest in 1999, Court case filed in August 2001, Restraining order in September 2001, in January 2002 the case is dismissed and in March 2002, they are married!
(Remember in 2003 Link was arrested for Drunk Driving/manslaughter/leaving the scene of an accident. He is currently in prison)
What a romantic relationship!
In 1999 Pamela has Ronnie Link arrested for domestic violence:
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=2d5cb198bc0ed3e858eeba4be638aa38
In August 2001, Ronnie Link files an injunction on Pamela Long. Note that on 9/12/2001, she is refered to as Pamela Link (is it someone else? They were not yet married).
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=550fd703eb5dba005029e2967daca16f
Here is a marriage cert between Pamala Long and Ronald Link, showing they got married 3/13/2002
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/MyImages/2002949061.pdf
Here is some kind of dissolution in 2003
http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=57&data=00dec33a25e3dae89f7c86d3ffc64e0c
So, arrest in 1999, Court case filed in August 2001, Restraining order in September 2001, in January 2002 the case is dismissed and in March 2002, they are married!
(Remember in 2003 Link was arrested for Drunk Driving/manslaughter/leaving the scene of an accident. He is currently in prison)
What a romantic relationship!
No doubt she's quite a piece of work and the attitude she displayed on arrest, struck me as her being a self-confident manipulator.
My best guess would be a combo of all 3, in addition to the use of others to do most of the "bidding" in order to keep her hands clean.
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Protecting her. That is the key.
Kris Wernowsky kwernowsky@pnj.com July 27, 2009
Long Wiggins investigated for food stamp fraud
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090727/NEWS01/90727011
Long Wiggins investigated for food stamp fraud
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090727/NEWS01/90727011
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Just curious, is there a relationship between PLW's attorney in the above case & her current husband?
Not that I've discovered as of yet, however if I'm remembering correctly the atty in that case is the same atty who was with her during the arrest for this and if I'm really remembering correctly, he's "closely" related to the current mayor of Pensacola.
That little detail within itself is what turned me into being quite the cynic in this case.
There may very well be nothing underhanded going on, but it's just too much of coinky-dink for me to close my eyes.
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I don't believe she actually works there - I think she just owns it.
ETA: Just out of curiousity, I'll drive over tomorrow am way before it opens to see if the red van is still there
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I don't know if everybody saw that PNJ had updated their article yesterday with more info about the fire:
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090726/NEWS01/907260331/1006
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090726/NEWS01/907260331/1006