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Somebody on HLN.....didn't look up so don't know who said it....said if the judge gave the Allen charge to a jury who were not deadlocked....that would be an appeal issue. Makes no sense to me....
Anyone else think they had a verdict when they left yesterday....and, did the same "sleep on it" thing and will announce shortly after they arrive?
No. I hope I am wrong.
I think they will remain deadlocked and I am sick with worry over it.
I don't know much about Arizona law but it doesn't seem right to have to choose a new jury for just the penalty phase. If the jury is deadlocked it should go to the judge IMO. It just doesn't seem right to me.
How do i sign up for the verdict alert that really didn't do me much good last time. but, i am tired and want to nap.
So am I sweetie, but this case has made me question my sanity, and my knowledge of the law. I just feel so bad for the Alexanders.![]()
Maybe the same reporter who claimed to have the exact question written by the jury, would be able to slip them THIS little ditty.....
http://abcnewsradioonline.com/national-news/jodi-arias-feels-betrayed-by-jury.html
"All I know is that, if I were given freedom again, I would handle it very, very responsibly," Arias said. "If you're not abusing me and attacking me and threatening to kill my life, there's no reason to fear."
WOW!! Now THAT scares me!! If she claimed "abuse" by being called a *advertiser censored* or a 3HW, she obviously has a plan for "the next time".
Note to men EVERYWHERE if she ever gets out....lock the bathroom door at ALL times, and do NOT let her use your camera!!!
This really bothers me from Ryan Owens interview with CM: He asks "so you think people will be safe with Jodi Arias out of these 4 walls" Her answer "yes, if you don't abuse me or attack me or threaten to kill me, then you're safe."
She will definitely kill again. Also, it is my opinion her answer was a direct threat to Ryan ( like back off) because in her demented mind, Ryan was verbally attacking her. He is a ''hater" you know.
A year after the convicted murderer's arrest, Judge Sally Duncan made a ruling limiting the State to the aggravator of cruel, discarding heinous, depraved. There is now a weighing process going on inside the jury room and I'm thinking that limitation is unfortunate. The jury has already found the cruel aggravator proven but now the Defense comes forward with its eight "mitigators". These are not only insignificant, not one is a statutory mitigator but that is not the format Defense used to present them. There was a huge courtroom display, each mitigating suggestion explained by Nurmi with his heavy emphasis. Analyzed, these eight suggestions amounted to a pile of dust but did the showy presentation have a visual and auditory impact? What we would like to stack up against the "mitigators" are all legal aggravators, just for numeric value. Since State wasn't granted all aggravators, I would like to hear once again, Juan Martinez stress the inconsequential nature of Defense's eight mere suggestions and their empty hands without one statutory mitigator.
Okay, finally moving on over.
Hope all of our foulity (I made that word up) disappears today either before or with a DP verdict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :skip:
Key words here are "abuse me" (BBM). Her perception of abuse is anyone who disagrees with her or stands up to her. :stormingmad:
100% agree! :seeya:I am here with you all for the duration, too. The Alexanders are truly amazing. My thoughts and prayers are with them, as well as with our wonderful jury.
Speaking of, I posted something like this yesterday as the thread was closing, so I am going to kind of repeat myself.
Yesterday morning, first thing, the judge called the jury in to clarify some instructions about life vs. death penalty. It was very shortly after this that the jury came back with the issue of being hung. I really do believe it was just for more clarification of jury instructions. They wanted all instructions clear before they really got into heated discussions. The judge read it wrong and provided her answer. I think they got enough from that answer that they knew they were to keep working on it unless they were sure they could not agree. If it came to that point, they would ask instructions again, if necessary.
This jury did not give up after 2 hours - not this jury!! They have been so patient and dedicated. They agreed unanimously that aggravation was met, making the case death worthy. And they agreed on that quickly. They ALL feel death is worthy here.
I truly believe they want to go over each mitigating factor, with each juror, until they are able to know they are making the right decision that they will be able to live with. Just like they did with the 1st degree verdict, they want to be thorough and make sure this sticks. And I truly believe they will have a verdict today, and I do think it will be the death penalty.
Hi everyone. I heard deliberations started at 9:30 and then read on another thread that they are beginning at 11 today? Does anyone know? TIA.
I am here with you all for the duration, too. The Alexanders are truly amazing. My thoughts and prayers are with them, as well as with our wonderful jury.
Speaking of, I posted something like this yesterday as the thread was closing, so I am going to kind of repeat myself.
Yesterday morning, first thing, the judge called the jury in to clarify some instructions about life vs. death penalty. It was very shortly after this that the jury came back with the issue of being hung. I really do believe it was just for more clarification of jury instructions. They wanted all instructions clear before they really got into heated discussions. The judge read it wrong and provided her answer. I think they got enough from that answer that they knew they were to keep working on it unless they were sure they could not agree. If it came to that point, they would ask instructions again, if necessary.
This jury did not give up after 2 hours - not this jury!! They have been so patient and dedicated. They agreed unanimously that aggravation was met, making the case death worthy. And they agreed on that quickly. They ALL feel death is worthy here.
I truly believe they want to go over each mitigating factor, with each juror, until they are able to know they are making the right decision that they will be able to live with. Just like they did with the 1st degree verdict, they want to be thorough and make sure this sticks. And I truly believe they will have a verdict today, and I do think it will be the death penalty.