Penn State Sandusky scandal: AD arrested, Paterno, Spanier fired; coverup charged #6

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I don't understand why a judge is needed to determine if a case should go to trial after a grand jury heard the victims and decided that the case should go to trial. In sexual assault cases, this is cruel to the victims. Does this same procedure occur in other states? TIA

BUT actually, this grand jury decided, after questioning the witnesses, that JS should be charged and what the charges are.

The judge in the prelim hearing will decide if the prosecutors/DA have enough evidence on the charges to take the case to trial.
 
Good point. I can only come up with these possibilities. What do you think?

1. The doc is an extremely close friend and was at McQueary's dad home when Mike arrived to ask for guidance.
2. Mike gave his dad a preview of what he needed to discuss. The dad sensed the enormity of the situation and called a non-family member to corroborate his son's "testimony" just in case it was ever called into question.
3. Sara's secret unnamed source is wrong.

There are many possibility for why McQueary's dad thought his son's "testimony" might need a corroborating witness. Maybe there is some reason people might not believe McQueary's accusation was accurate (besides the fact that Sandusky was viewed a "great guy who supposedly helped lots of children)?

OR

4. The unnamed source is lying to help Sandusky at his or his lawyer's request.
 
I just think the timing of this story is extremely odd.

I doubt there would be much disagreement that the most damning part of the grand jury report was the testimony of Mike McQueary. Without that testimony, Spainer would likely still be President of Penn State, JoePa would still be head coach, Shultz and Curley would have never been arrested and would still have their jobs. McQueary's testimony of witnessing a child being anally raped was the catalyst for their demise.

After all of the half baked interviews by Sandusky and his lawyer apparently blew up in their faces, SHAZAM!, less than 48 hrs before this monster is due in front of a judge, this doctor deal comes crawling out of the woodwork claiming the State's star witness lied to the grand jury! Talk about trying to create doubt!

Wonder where he's been since November 7th?
Exactly! If this doc was part of the giant Penn State conspiracy (and had a giant glioma in his frontal lobe causing him to risk 14 years of college/training/medical license), he would have leaked this info immediately after the grand jury indictment to try to save Joe Pa's job/Sandusky/Penn State.

If the doc was inclined to support his friend's son, he would not have contradicted McQueary's statement that no rape was witnessed.

I think Sara needs to find new unnamed sources because she may have been played by Sandusky's defense.
 
A legal spectacle takes shape in Happy Valley

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...es_shape_in_Happy_Valley.html?cmpid=124488469


BELLEFONTE – The circus came to town Monday.

Hundreds of reporters from news outlets from across the country, dozens of interested attorneys, and run-of-the-mill gawkers descended on this small Victorian hamlet for one of the most highly anticipated legal spectacles the community has ever hosted.


More at link...
 
A legal spectacle takes shape in Happy Valley

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...es_shape_in_Happy_Valley.html?cmpid=124488469


BELLEFONTE – The circus came to town Monday.

Hundreds of reporters from news outlets from across the country, dozens of interested attorneys, and run-of-the-mill gawkers descended on this small Victorian hamlet for one of the most highly anticipated legal spectacles the community has ever hosted.


More at link...

Sad, because it such a beautiful place, the idyllic small town. :(
 
Sad, because it such a beautiful place, the idyllic small town. :(
Let is be a lesson to all of us.....you NEVER really know what's going on behind closed doors....anywhere at any time. And, as my sig line reflects.....even though you THINK you know someone.....often times, you don't really.
 
Let is be a lesson to all of us.....you NEVER really know what's going on behind closed doors....anywhere at any time. And, as my sig line reflects.....even though you THINK you know someone.....often times, you don't really.


True. I use to like in the general area; I went to school there. I blog about the missing district attorney. This really has me shaken.
 
Let is be a lesson to all of us.....you NEVER really know what's going on behind closed doors....anywhere at any time. And, as my sig line reflects.....even though you THINK you know someone.....often times, you don't really.

Exactly. We just see the person as he or she present themselves as.
 
Sad, because it such a beautiful place, the idyllic small town. :(
This is very disturbing. I had hoped that this little town, that has nothing to do with Sandusky, would get some positive press. The articles describing where Sandusky’s hearing will occur gives a purposefully wretched description.

“In a cavernous old courtroom with creaky wooden pews for seats and a floor that slopes downhill”

The reporter conveniently forgot to mention that the Bellefonte courthouse was constructed in 1805 and that is why it has magnificent wooden floors that have sloped (over 206 years).



Bellefonte is a tiny, beautiful town with 360 RESTORED Victorian homes/buildings on the National Historic Registry including the courthouse with the creaking, sloping floor.

Beautiful Victorian homes here:
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/victorian_houses_bellefonte_pa.htm
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/bellefonte.htm

Two-hundred-year old courthouse:
http://www.bellefontearts.org/images/Fred_Smith/Fred_Smith_diamond/courthouse2.GIF

http://victorianbellefonte.com/
http://www.ksbw.com/sports/29980846/detail.html#ixzz1gO0RC8mQ
 
True. I use to like in the general area; I went to school there. I blog about the missing district attorney. This really has me shaken.
I've quietly followed Gricar's case......I understand why you're shaken. It IS odd how this Sandusky/Penn State case coincides so very closely to the Gricar case. Would you have ever in a million years thought Gricar's case would be tied to a case like this and a scandal this large? These types of cases are difficult to follow for so many reasons but to have such close ties makes them even more difficult.
 
I've quietly followed Gricar's case......I understand why you're shaken. It IS odd how this Sandusky/Penn State case coincides so very closely to the Gricar case. Would you have ever in a million years thought Gricar's case would be tied to a case like this and a scandal this large? These types of cases are difficult to follow for so many reasons but to have such close ties makes them even more difficult.
Many, including JJ, who has spent years studying Gricar's disappearance, believe Gricar may have walked away from his life.

I personally will cringe witnessing outsiders write disparaging comments about a nice little city, Bellefonte. I hope it snows buckets on all the reporters if they can't mentally separate lovely Bellefonte, PA from the Sandusky putridness.

http://media.centredaily.com/smedia/2011/12/06/08/33/wC9Eg.AuSt.42.jpeg
 
Many, including JJ, who has spent years studying Gricar's disappearance, believe Gricar may have away from his life.

I personally will cringe witnessing outsiders write disparaging comments about a nice little city, Bellefonte. I hope it snows buckets on reporters if they can't separate lovely Bellefonte, PA from the Sandusky putridness.

Mmmm......a word was missing from your quote. Can I fill in the blank? "Gricar may have ran away from his life?..... It's hard to not wonder now isn't it?

Personally.....I don't have one disparaging remark about anyone/anything from that seemingly beautiful, quaint area other than Sandusky. I bet the snow is beautiful. fun and smells great.
 
Many, including JJ, who has spent years studying Gricar's disappearance, believe Gricar may have walked away from his life.

I've never been too sure that Mr. Gricar (RFG) walked away, though I still think it is more likely than not. Murder is still looming large.

I do know this. Up until November 4, 2011, everyone except me, was asking what possible motive RFG could have for walking away, especially those people who thought it was murder. Now, no one is.

I never wanted an answer to that question. Now, I fear that it will be answered.

I personally will cringe witnessing outsiders write disparaging comments about a nice little city, Bellefonte. I hope it snows buckets on all the reporters if they can't mentally separate lovely Bellefonte, PA from the Sandusky putridness.

http://media.centredaily.com/smedia/2011/12/06/08/33/wC9Eg.AuSt.42.jpeg

A beautiful, historic, small, and friendly town. The darkness spreads an engulfs it. Central Pennsylvania Gothic. :(
 
I've never been too sure that Mr. Gricar (RFG) walked away, though I still think it is more likely than not. Murder is still looming large.

I do know this. Up until November 4, 2011, everyone except me, was asking what possible motive RFG could have for walking away, especially those people who thought it was murder. Now, no one is.

I never wanted an answer to that question. Now, I fear that it will be answered.



A beautiful, historic, small, and friendly town. The darkness spreads an engulfs it. Central Pennsylvania Gothic. :(

I am not too familiar with the timeline of the Gricar case. How much time between the problems with Sandusky in Penn state and the time Gricar goes missing?
 
I am not too familiar with the timeline of the Gricar case. How much time between the problems with Sandusky in Penn state and the time Gricar goes missing?

A bit under seven years. RFG was planning to retire, however, at the end of 2005, and had announced it in January of 2004. He disappeared on 4/15/05.
 
I don't understand why a judge is needed to determine if a case should go to trial after a grand jury heard the victims and decided that the case should go to trial. In sexual assault cases, this is cruel to the victims. Does this same procedure occur in other states? TIA

Pennsylvania, unlike most states, doesn’t allow grand juries to directly indict suspects. Prosecutors must persuade a judge to allow the case to proceed to trial...

“The judge must accept as true the testimony of the prosecution witnesses,” he said. “It’s a bare minimum standard. They are overwhelmingly approved to go forward.”

Defense attorneys usually waive preliminary trials in order to avoid a surge in pre-trial press coverage. But Sandusky’s attorney, Joe Amendola
— who has been criticized for allowing his client to sit for what turned out to be rambling and uncomfortable interviews with NBC and The New York Times — has insisted on the preliminary trial.

“It’s basically a chance for the defense to ask open-ended questions and get witnesses to lock into statements,” Harvey said. “It’s an opportunity for the defense to get discovery.”



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...-abuse-charges-article-1.990597#ixzz1gOVxI8Z9
 
A bit under seven years. RFG was planning to retire, however, at the end of 2005, and had announced it in January of 2004. He disappeared on 4/15/05.

That seems weird. Wouldn't he get a nice pension upon retirement? Why not just wait out the final year and get the pension, and then disappear somewhere and have the checks sent to a po box in paradise somewhere?
 
That seems weird. Wouldn't he get a nice pension upon retirement? Why not just wait out the final year and get the pension, and then disappear somewhere and have the checks sent to a po box in paradise somewhere?

Well, financially, his daughter got a lump sum that include both his contributions and the county contribution. If he had died, or disappeared, after retirement, she wouldn't get the county share.

We do have a Gricar thread, if you are interested in the specifics of the case.
 
Apparently Sandusky unofficially coached football at a college last year despite failing a background check:

HUNTINGDON, Pa. -- Jerry Sandusky continued to coach football at Juniata College despite being denied an official coaching position there, CBS 21 News Sports Director Jason Bristol has learned.

Two Juniata College football players tell CBS 21 News that Sandusky was actively involved with the Eagles program in 2010, even though his volunteer coaching application was rejected because a background check revealed he was being investigated at a Clinton County High School.

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/Sandusky-still-coaches-Juniata-College/GemajxS3mkGwHLfChNsgtw.cspx
 
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