Penn State Sandusky Trial #11 (Verdict - GUILTY!)

[believe09]

I wonder if their cell phones will be taken away-you can see the police officer on the far left doing something with his....

 

[LoisDenominator]

I can assure you as hard as the waiting is for us, it is NOTHING compared to the attorneys whose stomachs are churning and they jump out of their skin with every text alert or phone call.

I will say that even the attorneys feel that a verdict is very close or they would not be hanging around that courthouse all day long...especially since the lunch break. They know this jury is very close to rendering some verdicts. Otherwise they would be anywhere else. Nothing is worse than sitting around the courthouse just waiting...there is a reason they are staying so close. They could be at their office, hanging out at the pool trying to keep their minds occupied on anything else... but they are outside the courthouse smoking. fwiw (and not much other than my professional opinion) As a paralegal, I read a lot into that. lol

For those in the legal profession, does a Judge typically get a "progress update" (for lack of a better phrase) from the jury as to how far along they are in their deliberations? Or is he/she as in the dark as we are? I'm wondering if there is a balance between being able to prepare properly operationally vs. making the jurors feel rushed/hurried/pressured... Also, if that's why the attorneys know to stick around, etc.

Gulp! And lots of good thoughts for the dedicated jurors...

 

[TGIRecovered]

I can't imagine why they'd need to have a "show of force" ready for a guilty verdict.

I really hope they aren't anticipating a not guilty. I can see how that would upset a lot of people, and rightfully so!

 

[Tipstaff]

Can you write one like that for my derby team? They actually expect me to practice in 3 hours and play an away game tomorrow. That just ain't cool. :maddening:

Of course, my pleasure.:floorlaugh:

 

[CarolinaMoon]

The letter writing continues... I should ask DH to go when he's finished and bring me back an order of hot crab dip with pita bread. I have a fine Merlot waiting for the moment.

Nah, he would decide not to go and I would have to cook. Considering I burned last night's dinner (we got pizza delivered) and his lunch today (the left over pizza), that might not be a good idea either.

Who's there telling me I'm not addicted to WS and trials??? :floorlaugh:

As for the police lining the street, I can't imagine it's for nothing. After the little riot last fall, I'm sure they have a safety plan in place.

Could it be a verdict? Wish I knew! :banghead:

 

[believe09]

I can't imagine why they'd need to have a "show of force" ready for a guilty verdict.

I really hope they aren't anticipating a not guilty. I can see how that would upset a lot of people, and rightfully so!

They are probably there to control the media as they rush out the door with their electronic devices in hand.

Given what happened at JoPa's house, I guess I wouldnt assume the fire power means a not guilty.

 

[Bravo]

A bit selfish on my part, but I hope for a verdict before the day ends. DH and I leave tomorrow morning for a long weekend on Mackinac Island and will not have internet access. We'd learn about the verdict on TV, but I'd miss not being here to discuss the verdict with my fellow 'Sleuthers.

I hope for your sake too. Enjoy your time away. That's a really nice spot.

 

[JSR]

I can't imagine why they'd need to have a "show of force" ready for a guilty verdict.

I really hope they aren't anticipating a not guilty. I can see how that would upset a lot of people, and rightfully so!

They are preparing for every eventuality. How many of us guessed that Casey Anthony would be found not guilty?? Yeah none of us. But the country has learned from that verdict. And that is that you NEVER know what a jury is going to do.

I would wager that JS will be found guilty of something but will not be found guilty of all charges.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I heard on HLN that actress Tea Leoni is traveling cross country with her family and she stopped by the courthouse!

 

[SyraKelly]

Well - we all can look at this way-if they come back with NG-We still have a second chance at him!!

 

[elmomom]

After the idiot students rioting because of Paterno's deserved firing, of course the show of force is because they are afraid of a Guilty verdict. Still so many folks around here that just want this all to just go away and like to pretend that it is just a witch hunt. Gah, I hate some of the mindset in this damn state.

 

[beach]

For those in the legal profession, does a Judge typically get a "progress update" (for lack of a better phrase) from the jury as to how far along they are in their deliberations? Or is he/she as in the dark as we are? I'm wondering if there is a balance between being able to prepare properly operationally vs. making the jurors feel rushed/hurried/pressured... Also, if that's why the attorneys know to stick around, etc.

Gulp! And lots of good thoughts for the dedicated jurors...

No, not a progress update, per se. They know about as much as we do. In fact, I sat on a jury long, long ago of a similar matter - it was also a child molestation case although not 48 counts, thank God. Afterwards when I entered the legal profession, I got to know the judge personally quite well. He told me that they went through our trash can when we left to count the voting slips. :floorlaugh: So, they are every bit as anxious and in the dark as the rest of us.

That said, the first clue a judge usually gets is if they seem to have reached an impasse and appear deadlocked. At that time the jury notifies the judge and he will order them to go back and continue to try. (I forget what that charge is called...JSR?)

 

[CarolinaMoon]

IMHO, he only needs to be found guilty of a few counts to get the maximum time. Remember, there are concurrent sentences for a lot of them. The felony counts will give the most time.

I've got everything crossed, including my eyes that he is found guilty on most if not all of them, though. I would hate to see one of the victims who testified to be not believed while others were. If there are not guilties, I would expect them for the ones they couldn't find.

For some reason, I have faith in this jury.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Anne Danahy‏@AnneDanahy

attorney Amendola says #Sandusky family has been "doing a lot of praying"

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Kevin Cirilli‏@kevcirilli

Amendola talking to reporters lowering expectations. Shakes head when asked chances: "Well, well... it's 10 separate cases." #Sandusky


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Chip Minemyer‏@Minemyerchip

Small conversation turns into impromptu press conference in courtroom for Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola.

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Paula Reid ‏@PaulaReidCBS

Amendola: "Do you know what the odds are of walking on 52 charges? The likelihood is strong he will be convicted of something." #Sandusky

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Paula Reid ‏@PaulaReidCBS

Amendola: "[Jerry] is an overgrown child. Kids tend to be naïve & not really appreciate the seriousness of what they are facing."#Sandusky

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Paula Reid ‏@PaulaReidCBS

Amendola says the Sandusky family "is crushed" by the allegations brought forth by Matt Sandusky. #Sandusky

 

[Bravo]

Could be a sign. I know in the last case i followed the Judge asked if the Jurors wanted to continue or break until the next day. The Jurors said they were close and wanted to continue. They returned with a Guilty verdict shortly there after (Stafford case)

 

[Reader]

Looks like Judge Cleland may be spanking Joe Amendola for talking to reporters about case in courtroom. #sandusky #gagorder

by JimParsons via twitter5:35 PM


Ruh ro. RT @Minemyerchip: Judge asks to see #sandusky attorney Joe Amendola.

by cvmikesisak via twitter5:35 PM
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Update: Jurors are ordering dinner and deliberations continue. #sandusky

by cvmikesisak via twitter5:34 PM



Read more: http://livewire.wtae.com/Event/Jerry_Sandusky_Trial_2#ixzz1yYoDkE5q

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Guess I'll get dinner, too!

 

[ClosArgs]

Okay, if the jury announced now it is hung on charges related to Victim 8, but has the remaining counts determined. Do you think the judge would ask them to continue deliberations and if so for how long?

 

[Quiche]

Amendola says he has given #sandusky.his honest assessment of his outcome...but wouldn't tell reporters
by 8CumbCoReport via twitter 2:38 PM

Amendola says #sandusky realizes this could be his last day of freedom
by 8CumbCoReport via twitter 2:36 PM

#Sandusky jurors ordering dinner but deliberations continue here
by astockey via twitter 2:36 PM

Amendola tells reporters inside courtroom he'd "have a heart attack" if #sandusky is aquitted on all counts
by 8CumbCoReport via twitter 2:36 PM

Looks like Judge Cleland may be spanking Joe Amendola for talking to reporters about case in courtroom. #sandusky #gagorder
by JimParsons via twitter 2:35 PM

Ruh ro. RT @Minemyerchip: Judge asks to see #sandusky attorney Joe Amendola.
by cvmikesisak via twitter 2:35 PM

#Sandusky ... guessing minus dinner, breaks and mtgs, we're approaching hour 14of deliberations. Dinner break should be soon.
by astockey via twitter 2:20 PM

Read more: http://livewire.wtae.com/Event/Jerry_Sandusky_Trial_2#ixzz1yYowZnDD

 

[blah956]

i've never served jury duty. i can only imagine what it is like to be deliberating over a case as tedious as this