one_girl_rev
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I think at this point in time we can safely say that he also has an issue with murdering young women.
Well, yes, of course. That is a given.
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I think at this point in time we can safely say that he also has an issue with murdering young women.
I am not convinced that he staged a rape. I think that there was an attempt of rape and she fought it and robbery was an afterthought before he took off.
Think about what a young man's thoughts were when a young attractive girl goes into a hotel room with him. I sure he thought this was part of the deal. IMO
Is it possible he is already working on an insanity plea ("sick in head") ?
Not sure it would matter in Peru...or in this case.
bolded by me...IMO...that is EXACTLY what is happening....The Peru prison is ..."documenting" GOOD treatment of Joran...Recording everything "done for his "protection" and welfare....and when the camera/cameraman..."goes away" and REAL prison life..will begain...AWAY from the camera eye.
I believe ( and this may sound "harsh". so I apologize beforehand) that he will be "introduced" to prison "life" as it "really is". He is not going to be "coddled" and "babied"...It is the way of the prison..
I do not believe the prison...will..."protect" him from being "rough upped" and beaten, raped, starved, and other "unspeakable" viles of prison life..
They may however...not permit him to die...before his trial..
They may allow him to have..."visitors" that terrorize him, for their own "entertainment"....
After all...he killed one of their own....They hate him...
I have no personal knowledge of Peru/Peru prisons...but have read many non/fiction books on prison life...especially is prisons not in our country..
Joran may have felt...with the camera rolling...that this is not "so bad..I can DO THIS"....but I have a feeling...he is going to have a nightmarish awakening in his days to come.....This filming was ...all for show...
all in my own opinion and I apologize if my being harsh upset anyone here..
The posts I linked to a little while ago by PattyG and Wings of Light. [I think that's their names.]
Thanks so much. I'm a little confused though in the translation of "laundry and silo" inside the cell. :waitasec:
I did notice he said he was sick in the head and hadn't eaten for two days.
BBM confused because this post says that on June 7 he confessed to the killing of Stephanie.http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivjZZz2WTj-nJ_lNzCNyFmuADWDwD9GAG7Q80
LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot told police in Chile that it was an unidentified robber who beat a young woman to death in his hotel room, a killing for which the Dutchman has been charged with murder in Peru.
Peruvian police say Van der Sloot, long suspected in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, has confessed to killing 21-year-old business student Stephanie Flores on May 30 after they met playing poker.
But according to a Chilean police report obtained by The Associated Press through Peruvian authorities late Saturday, Van der Sloot gave a different account of events while in custody in neighboring Chile, where he was captured after the killing and quickly extradited.
In the version offered to Chilean investigators, Van der Sloot said he and Flores were surprised in the early morning by two robbers in an apparent assault.
I respectfully disagree. I am sure that a normal young man's thoughts when an attractive young girl goes to a motel room with them, and they don't have sex... would be disappointment?
Not thoughts of rape, a ballistic beating and murder.
Not sure I like the implication that it would be normal to rape someone because they went to your motel room, they were young, and you found them attractive. Rape is NOT about sex or being mad because you didn't get any and you're so horny. It is about power.
Also, the majority of people who get raped are not young, attractive and in someone's motel room. They are just average normal people who have the misfortune to cross paths with an evil person that takes out their anger by raping people.
Considering the lame attempt to make the coffee alibi, if Stephany really was not wearing a skirt, it makes way more sense that it was a staging of the scene than an attempted rape. Especially if you consider they claim she was not sexually assaulted, and with the difference in their size, there's no reason he wouldn't have been successful if he'd done so.
Just my thoughts.
Thanks, Suzihawk, for the links. I didn't get past the point where the guy starts to rehash the old "Natalee wasn't coming home" lie. (As if the Aruban authorities wouldn't have shouted that from the rooftops if it were true, or legitimate reporters wouldn't have found that out, as well. It's not like the doings of a teenage American were state secrets.) How sad that these con artists link themselves to a tragic situation and then proceed to make the lives of people who are in a terrible situation even worse. And there are always people who want to believe them fir reasons I will never understand.
I respectfully disagree. I am sure that a normal young man's thoughts when an attractive young girl goes to a motel room with them, and they don't have sex... would be disappointment?
Not thoughts of rape, a ballistic beating and murder.
Not sure I like the implication that it would be normal to rape someone because they went to your motel room, they were young, and you found them attractive. Rape is NOT about sex or being mad because you didn't get any and you're so horny. It is about power.
Also, the majority of people who get raped are not young, attractive and in someone's motel room. They are just average normal people who have the misfortune to cross paths with an evil person that takes out their anger by raping people.
Considering the lame attempt to make the coffee alibi, if Stephany really was not wearing a skirt, it makes way more sense that it was a staging of the scene than an attempted rape. Especially if you consider they claim she was not sexually assaulted, and with the difference in their size, there's no reason he wouldn't have been successful if he'd done so.
Just my thoughts.
YES there is a hollow emptiness in his eyes, and it scary.He went from a "Baby Face Dutch Playboy" (in his own mind)
TO THIS MONSTER !! It is like BAM the real Joran surfaced.
I thought Stephany's Dad said the only thing she had on her possession was her wallet (which was empty) and her cell phone... the police report mentions earrings, a watch and a ring in her possession.
I had a Spanish speaking friend of mine translate this article for me. It made more sense than the web translation.
http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493708/confesion-joran-van-der-sloot-tome-cuello-estrangule
Ok, so this monster was playing with Stephanie at a casino then she tells him that they should go to his room and continue playing poker on the internet. Once they are up there, he goes to his laptop opens his email and reads this email that said..."Am going to kill you, psycho," he then tells her how he was accused of killing Natalee Holloway in 2005, she (Stephanie) flips out and punches him on the side of his face and he became enraged hit her with his elbow and left her some what knocked out (she was still concious). He told the authorities that he was shocked at the way that Stephanie reaccted to him telling her about Natalee that he grabed her by her throat with both his hands and choked her for "about a min." He then told the authorities that he took her wallet & took off in her truck parked it some where then grabbed a cab to some town then grabbed another cab to a city, but this idiot told both cabs what he had done to stephanie and how he was being wrongfully accused of killing Natalee.