Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

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i.b.nora said:
The alleged "immigration document":

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The other "conspiracy theory stuff" is coming from this "press conference" with Dan Young and Kelly Castillo:
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i.b.nora:

Thank you so much for finding that photo. Like I said it's not an 'original.' It's merely a photo of a template of the form. In other words, it's manufactured. :waitasec:

I snipped off the link to the dan and kelly interview. I unfortunately watched it and it brought back memories of these two disgusting inviduals, IMHO, who preyed on the family of a missing child. Who does that? What kind of people are these? To spread libelous accusations around like they're talking about a ball game? dispicible, imo. :mad:

I wonder what these two self-proclaimed psychics are thinking now? They should be hiding their heads in {shame!} :furious::furious:

I'm sure Aruba is now wondering what the motive of these two was. Or, they kept talking about all the money they'd spent on supposedly investigating this. Wonder how much they received from the Aruba Tourist industry? Wasn't enough was it? :curses:

IMHO, Joran Van der Sloot is Aruba's worst nightmare! :devil:
He's like a wound that won't heal. :curses:

I believe Aruba should cut their losses and cut Joran free. I bet they will too. He's toast! :burn:
JMHO
fran
 
panthera said:
I thought there was a report he'd been offered steak before the transfer to Castro Castro. Sooner or later he's going to have to get used to it or starve to death. MOO
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maybe he thinks someone spit on his steak.........LOL, afraid to eat the food........
 
Apologies if this has already been posted:

Joran Van Der Sloot arrives at Castro Casto:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-H_18WqdLo[/ame]
 
Peinay said:
I had a Spanish speaking friend of mine translate this article for me. It made more sense than the web translation.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/493708/confesion-joran-van-der-sloot-tome-cuello-estrangule


Ok, so this monster was playing with Stephanie at a casino then she tells him that they should go to his room and continue playing poker on the internet. Once they are up there, he goes to his laptop opens his email and reads this email that said..."Am going to kill you, psycho," he then tells her how he was accused of killing Natalee Holloway in 2005, she (Stephanie) flips out and punches him on the side of his face and he became enraged hit her with his elbow and left her some what knocked out (she was still concious). He told the authorities that he was shocked at the way that Stephanie reaccted to him telling her about Natalee that he grabed her by her throat with both his hands and choked her for "about a min." He then told the authorities that he took her wallet & took off in her truck parked it some where then grabbed a cab to some town then grabbed another cab to a city, but this idiot told both cabs what he had done to stephanie and how he was being wrongfully accused of killing Natalee.
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Wow - just wow! thanks peinay. Sad to think she was still alive when he just left her lying there, if he's telling the truth.
 
Nancy2441 said:
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I think this was part of Joran's plan. He kills Stephany, removes her pants, has the hotel worker open the room his the key. Joran wanted the hotel worker to see the body. But it didn't work. He wanted to stage it so it looked like someone else raped Stephany and killed her why he was on his fake coffee run.
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He definitely didn't think how improbable that would be at 8:00am and within the few minutes he was gone "getting coffee". MOO
 
Nancy2441 said:
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I think this was part of Joran's plan. He kills Stephany, removes her pants, has the hotel worker open the room his the key. Joran wanted the hotel worker to see the body. But it didn't work. He wanted to stage it so it looked like someone else raped Stephany and killed her why he was on his fake coffee run.
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I agree that may have been his plan....His plan may have been that while on his "coffee run" a stranger knocked on the door....Step opened it..thinking it was him..the stranger attacks her...tries to rape her.."her pants being down".and kills her....and on Joran's "return" gets housekeeping to put their fingerprints on the door and TOGETHER they will "discover" her killed...But the employee did not go INTO the room...and his plans fails...BIG TIME..so now he is OUT OF IDEAS...and runs like the coward he is....

IMO..Joran is STILL RUNNING...INTO HIS OWN HE_ _......and there is NO FINISH LINE....
 
My son who speaks Spanish said "mal en cabeza" means bad in the head. He said there is another Spanish word for headache. He said it could mean crazy or worried.
 
I don't understand, if he wanted the hotel clerk to find the body, why didn't he yell, surly the clerk would have ran right back to see what was wrong.
Then he could have went through his BS story.

IMO
 
3doglady said:
My son who speaks Spanish said "mal en cabeza" means bad in the head. He said there is another Spanish word for headache. He said it could mean crazy or worried.
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But I'm also remembering that Joran's first language isn't Spanish as it seems by the answers he's giving. Just MOO.
 
doobiedoo52 said:
I'm going to try to look at this logically--which makes no sense because of all the conflicting info LOL.

Let's say they really did go back to his room to lay down for a couple hours and because the casino was closing for a few as well (I think that was mentioned early on). Maybe they play a little online poker and she is tired and takes her jeans off and crashes. He decides to nap, too. When they get up Joran goes online. The mongolito email comes up---has anyone seen anymore of what that message actually said? She looks over his right shoulder and reads it--it may actually mention Natalee. She confronts him and bops him on the side of the head while he's sitting. He elbows her (her face is down at shoulder level reading) in the left eye-hard. She yells at him and he explodes, gets up, then grabs her, pushing her back to the bed. He tries choking her and ends up breaking her neck and she falls between the wall and the bed. He sits there to cool down and decide what to do. He cleans up and then remembers he owes for 2 days yet. (He came May 14 and paid for 2 wks--that takes him to the 28th. OK, he'll pretend he got locked out of the room and go to the desk and while he's there--he will pay up those two days so they won't come in after he leaves. (He toys with idea of someone came in while he was out, but realizes he can't--with the camera there. He puts out the DND sign and lets someone know his "girl" is still sleeping--don't bother her-she has the key. He also says he'll be back. He's paid so far so why wouldn't they believe him? When they finally go check after another 2-3 days since he was only paid up thru the 30th, they find Stephany.

As far as the injuries on her--forgive me for the eyeball thing, but after a body has laid 2-3 days with no air conditioning, a swollen eye could easily rupture and eject the eyeball itself. I hate to be graphic but I don't think he ripped her eye out.
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I personally do not believe that any Natalie story had anything to do with this murder.
I do believe that he wanted more money and knew she won the game the night they played together. He lured her to come play some more at his room on the computer.
It is possible that he may not have planned it to be a murder, but he DID plan to assault her, rob her, and leave her.
He may not have realized that Stephanie would stand up for herself and not play door mate for him.

He had received only a small portion of money he extorted from Natalie's mom for locating her body.
He needed more money, gamblers always need more money.
He may have lost much of the money gambling that he got from the Holloway family as a down payment toward finding Natalie. But I do not think that Stephanie knew any Natalie stories, she was a victim of a robbery that he planned at any cost.
JMHO
 
The Natalie story has been circulating for years....It is NOT NEWS...Joran has been in the media, newspapers, talking about it HIMSELF..IT IS NOT NEWS...There have been talk shows discussing him/his stories/his alibis/...FOR YEARS..IT IS NOT NEWS.
To say that he became angry with Step..for her comments/questions/about Natalie..IMO...was not reason to kill her...Why slap him? If she suspected he was a murderer, she surely wouldn't fight with him if she read/saw it on his computer..Why would she fight him if he says he was wrongly accused???...Makes no sense..
Reason IMO to kill her....She would NOT loan/give him any money...She was going to leave...HE COULD NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN...so...He kills her and robs her...IMO..
 
GetSmart said:
He went from a "Baby Face Dutch Playboy" (in his own mind)
TO THIS MONSTER !! It is like BAM the real Joran surfaced.
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A far cry from this fresh-faced boy of 5 years ago, eh?

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I wish I could put those photos side-by-side but I'm not very adept in those sort of things. :)
 
what are the aruba news saying???
anyone have a link to their news???
 
fran said:
I must say that of all the recent pictures I've seen of Joran, this one is rather frightening to me. I can't decide if he's red from embarrassment and ready to cry, ..................or if this is his FURIOUS look and he's ready to KILL someone!

He really does look frightening to me.

fran

http://translate.google.com/transla...t-tengo-miedo-que-me-maten-carcel&sl=es&tl=en

<<<<<<<<<<Photo at link>>>>>>>>>>>>
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I can't quite decide either, but reading the comments after the article it doesn't seem he has much support at all! MOO
 
doobiedoo52 said:
I'm going to try to look at this logically--which makes no sense because of all the conflicting info LOL.

Let's say they really did go back to his room to lay down for a couple hours and because the casino was closing for a few as well (I think that was mentioned early on). Maybe they play a little online poker and she is tired and takes her jeans off and crashes. He decides to nap, too. When they get up Joran goes online.

The mongolito email comes up---has anyone seen anymore of what that message actually said?

She looks over his right shoulder and reads it--it may actually mention Natalee. She confronts him and bops him on the side of the head while he's sitting. He elbows her (her face is down at shoulder level reading) in the left eye-hard. She yells at him and he explodes, gets up, then grabs her, pushing her back to the bed. He tries choking her and ends up breaking her neck and she falls between the wall and the bed. He sits there to cool down and decide what to do. He cleans up and then remembers he owes for 2 days yet. (He came May 14 and paid for 2 wks--that takes him to the 28th. OK, he'll pretend he got locked out of the room and go to the desk and while he's there--he will pay up those two days so they won't come in after he leaves. (He toys with idea of someone came in while he was out, but realizes he can't--with the camera there. He puts out the DND sign and lets someone know his "girl" is still sleeping--don't bother her-she has the key. He also says he'll be back. He's paid so far so why wouldn't they believe him? When they finally go check after another 2-3 days since he was only paid up thru the 30th, they find Stephany.

As far as the injuries on her--forgive me for the eyeball thing, but after a body has laid 2-3 days with no air conditioning, a swollen eye could easily rupture and eject the eyeball itself. I hate to be graphic but I don't think he ripped her eye out.
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For anyone as Spanish challenged as me, mongolito means moron. [According to yahoo answers which I guess is reliable.]
 
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