Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

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The Natalie story has been circulating for years....It is NOT NEWS...Joran has been in the media, newspapers, talking about it HIMSELF..IT IS NOT NEWS...There have been talk shows discussing him/his stories/his alibis/...FOR YEARS..IT IS NOT NEWS.
To say that he became angry with Step..for her comments/questions/about Natalie..IMO...was not reason to kill her...Why slap him? If she suspected he was a murderer, she surely wouldn't fight with him if she read/saw it on his computer..Why would she fight him if he says he was wrongly accused???...Makes no sense..
Reason IMO to kill her....She would NOT loan/give him any money...She was going to leave...HE COULD NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN...so...He kills her and robs her...IMO..

I have never believed the Natalee story played into this. I DO believe that he liked the attention he got from it and so his first defense mechanism was "I was wrongfully accused of murder, everyone hates me, I got mad and couldn't help myself, Pity me!"

I just haven't been able to decide WHY he murdered her.
 
Don't know if this has been posted:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/0...-holloways-remains-transferred-aruban-prison/

"Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot says he'll reveal the location of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway's body if authorities transfer him from Peru's most infamous prison to a jail in Aruba, Radio Netherlands Worldwide reports Sunday...(snipped)..."

(ETA: I see that Benny08 posted something similar above)


I say DO IT.

He needs to come clean FIRST then when he gives up the information and Natalee is found, Beth could pay him a visit in his Peruvian jail cell and say "we lied":floorlaugh:
 
I can't decide if he's red from embarrassment and ready to cry, ..................or if this is his FURIOUS look and he's ready to KILL someone!

Hi Fran! Actually it's neither. His head is being pushed down (their hands on the back of his head) by the authorities as they are rushing him into the prison. This picture is a different angle from the video we've seen. He's being shouted at by the crowd and allegedly pelted with rotten veggies too.

He's actually cringing as he's being hustled to the front door of the prison. Watch the video if you haven't seen it yet. You'll see how fast the guards move him from van to prison front door.
 
IMO...the bottom line....WHY Joran...KILLED Stephany????

because....HE ....COULD.. He was angry......and.....HE ......COULD..
 
A real fast side b side .. we are getting ready to walk out the door ...gotta eat ..LOL
 

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Wow - just wow! thanks peinay. Sad to think she was still alive when he just left her lying there, if he's telling the truth.

According to that translated article, it reported that Joran elbowed her knocking her out partly unconscious but he then choked her with both hands for about a minute. I don't believe she was still alive when he left her lying there.
 
Adding quickly a thought...

Since Joran is known..WIDELY known..to have an unstoppable/uncontrolling/rage..temper...it is..IMO...that sooner..or later...he will be provoked /teased/tormented/taunted/..in prison...AT HIS FIRST opportunity..he will EXPLODE all his pent up anger/tension/..on whomever is his victim...

We may NEVER of hear/read of this.....but...IMO...Joran cannot..just cannot..CONTROL his anger/temper...IMO..it will happen........all in my own opinion
 
In this video at about the 4 minute mark, there's a close up of Joran's left hand. Is that bruising on the side of his hand or is the watermark on the video fooling me?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-H_18WqdLo&feature=player_embedded#!


Nope, you're not being fooled. I posted this picture way back and commented on the knuckles of his left hand looking swollen.

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I don't understand, if he wanted the hotel clerk to find the body, why didn't he yell, surly the clerk would have ran right back to see what was wrong.
Then he could have went through his BS story.

IMO

I think he wanted the HOTEL WORKER to be the one to make the discovery. But he was too dumb to figure out no one could see the body when they opened the door. Joran not being very bright is the same reason he didn't yell for help. His plans just aren't very well thought out IMO.
 
I think he wanted the HOTEL WORKER to be the one to make the discovery. But he was too dumb to figure out no one could see the body when they opened the door. Joran not being very bright is the same reason he didn't yell for help. His plans just aren't very well thought out IMO.


I agree....He relied on his dad/others...to have his "stories" ready made and thought out/thought thru for him...IMO
 
Has never told the truth before :waitasec:

He is a psychopath and his world revolves around himself. He not only feels superior to everyone else but is convinced he can manage any and every situation. So far, he has been right. Truth is relative to his needs. I wouldn't believe a thing he says, and the facts, at told by Joran, will change according to his needs. I would like to know what is Aruba's response to Joran's demand/offer to tell all about Natalie if he is transferred to their jurisdiction. How low will they sink to defend this monster? One thing he didn't seem to have planned out was where he would be when he was found. He obviously thinks Aruba is his "get out of jail" card. Joran is a loathsome waste of human flesh.
 
I agree. I don't think there was any argument 'because' she found out about NH. From what I have read, quite a few people at the casino knew who he was. The only way it could be believable is if wasn't that she found out about it, but if she made some nasty comment about it- that triggered him.

But, it seems more likely that he thought it would make a good story. That he, as an innocent, wrongfully accused man just snapped at the injustice of the accusations following him around, and he just lost it when she searched on his computer and found the lies about him. That people would understand how that could make an innocent guy snap and kill another girl, er, um girl.

Considering that supposedly in Chile he told police that he and Stephany were robbed by men with knives who attacked only he (and I'm guessing no robbers were caught on the camera, so him removing her pants to imply a fake sexual attack didn't work).... it is pretty clear that every story he has told is a complete fabrication and lie. So what that leaves as being the truth is the only thing he has not said- that he simply killed her to take her money. He certainly seems like the type whose anger could turn a theft into a murder.

I really would like to hear his story about what he was doing coming out of the room with coffee, knocking on the open door, closing it, knocking again, and then getting the maid to open it. THAT will be a funny story, no doubt.

I have never believed the Natalee story played into this. I DO believe that he liked the attention he got from it and so his first defense mechanism was "I was wrongfully accused of murder, everyone hates me, I got mad and couldn't help myself, Pity me!"

I just haven't been able to decide WHY he murdered her.
 
I think he wanted the HOTEL WORKER to be the one to make the discovery. But he was too dumb to figure out no one could see the body when they opened the door. Joran not being very bright is the same reason he didn't yell for help. His plans just aren't very well thought out IMO.

I thought he had planed on the hotel employee finding her or he was going to yell for the employee once he went in. But after he closed the door he saw the camera (he swallows big, because he knows he's caught). He walked away and peeked around the corner again at the camera. At that point he has no option but to get the employee to open the door so he could get his things and take off.
 
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