Hey, Hollyblue.....we make a good tag team!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:
Mother of Dutch Joran van der Sloot believes that it is a killer and will never come to Peru and view it if condemn you the crime of Stephany Flores
Google Translate version, better translation:
http://translate.google.com/transla...-lo-condenan-por-el-crimen-de-Stephany-Flores
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...-lo-condenan-por-el-crimen-de-Stephany-Flores
I realize she needs to go on with her life finally, however imo she has made Joran very dependent on her and now she drops the boom? What son that age calls their mother "mommy" and what mother signs off with "mommy" to son who is not a child any longer? Covering for his many misfortunes didn't do Joran any good at all; he hasn't learned to deal with rejection normally. The psychiatrist on Joy Behar's show was "spot-on".
Suzihawk and HollyBlue:
Thanks for your kind words and encouragement! There are so many inconsistencies in this case that it just makes me want to keep searching for some fact that seems reliable....haven't found one yet!! But that won't stop me...LOL!! :blushing: :blushing:
Here is an article of E Garcia from the translation thread:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Translation Thread JVDS
I like Brian Russell--and he has JVS spot on. I just wish they would discuss Joran's anger. What situation or crisis happened in his childhood or teens that created it or was it something genetic compounded by poor parental guidance?
I agree with your assessment of AVDS totally, but I must defend his calling his mother mommy. Some families in Europe and the Mediterranean do use this. I personally know of a man in his 40's who called his father "daddy" and he had teenagers of his own.
From your link:
"After that they ask him About how many times have you played poker with her. He says that he played with her approximately 4 times, in the Casino Atlantic City and Fiesta on Benavides Avenue, and he also says that while he was in his room, the police went to his room when it had already been made public that the death, when it was alreado known where the crime scene was. "
At no time does he says he ever played poker with Stephanie in Joran's
room, or in his own room, never had any contact with her at the hotel Tac, is not seen on the vid cam outside Joran's room (at any time?),
... only that police went to his room to inquire and look around after
the discovery of Stephanie.
So, how does that turn him into Stephanie's muderer as per Joe T?
I think the prosecutor will say ... 'nonsense'. in fact! if this is th best Joe T can come up with maybe that inidcates how little he has to defend Joran with ? Joe T might as well be saying: !
Garcia was hired by the FBI to droive Joran to Peru to gamble so he would murder!" ???
Conspiracy gobblewobble at its core.
I'm not sure there is a cause that can pinpoint Jorans anger. I can speak in general about anger but I view anger as a release of emotion similar to when one burst into tears. Causes and how a person deals with a release of emotions can differ from person to person depending on their coping skills.
Stressors are a factor and some people internalize stressors and deny they are affected when in reality they become like a pressure cooker waiting for the safety valve to blow. This maybe why it appears Joran went into a rage state.
http://www.roadtowellbeing.ca/questionnaires/life-stressors.html
I can tell you I'm big on how people perceive events in their life and how they self talk their way into or out of emotionally charged events. I/E jumping to conclusions and acting as though those conclusions are the truth.
Example: Joran in childhood could have perceived his brother was more loved and treated better by his parents than he was. He could have incorrectly perceived himself as "the bad one" - the black sheep of the family.
If Joran believed this to be true he could have been jealous of his brother and acted out to wards his brother and maybe he perceived and believed the dog liked his brother more too. <just example here> It's called holding irrational beliefs, it can be searched on the web under "Rational Emotive therapy"
Then there's seizure activity associated with rage state, a frontal lobal disorder.
I'll shaddup now but anger is a complex emotional reaction, a person who hits the wall in anger is displaying what's known as transference. Hope that helps answer some of your question but I know not all.
Someone also brought up John Bradshaw which I highly recommend.
EG is a good looking man, no? Media say he is 35, but a registration for the tournament stated he was born in 1970, making him 40....but who knows. I wanted to note this from the article also:
In the police file it seems that one of his fellow poker players, Elton Garcia, has all the papers of an American federal agent with him.
I don't know if I should post this, since it HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIRMED in the media, but YouTube has just reported that:
"Peter De Vries has reported DNA of Joran Van Der Sloot was found on the body of a dead teen involved in sex trade prostiution in Thailand.....The Girl died in 2008, but the DNA match of Van der sloot was just confirmed by Police detectives in Thailand"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhzxR0-jF4k
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I don't know if I should post this, since it HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIRMED in the media, but YouTube has just reported that:
"Peter De Vries has reported DNA of Joran Van Der Sloot was found on the body of a dead teen involved in sex trade prostiution in Thailand.....The Girl died in 2008, but the DNA match of Van der sloot was just confirmed by Police detectives in Thailand"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhzxR0-jF4k
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WOW!! Can we find this in print anywhere?
Tacopina might be involved as consultant, but if JVDS end up facing extortion charges in the US, he will need an American lawyer. This "other man" defense is vintage JT, as it was used as part of the "Joran left Natalee on the beach and ANOTHER MAN came along and must have killed her" defense. The JT article someone posted on this or the earlier thread has a scene in which JT is actually searching for the mythical Other Man in Aruba.
Remember, the defense has to have a "theory," and we should know that it must involve another man as killer and questioning of the videotape evidence because otherwise there is no defense. Joran is on the tape, coming and going and coming back. It's his hotel room. And he stole the car and ran away. So the defense attorneys have a lot of 'splainin' to do.
Tacopina might be involved as consultant, but if JVDS end up facing extortion charges in the US, he will need an American lawyer. This "other man" defense is vintage JT, as it was used as part of the "Joran left Natalee on the beach and ANOTHER MAN came along and must have killed her" defense. The JT article someone posted on this or the earlier thread has a s nee in which JT is actually searching for the mythical Other Man in Aruba.
Remember, the defense has to have a "theory," and we should know that it must involve another man as killer and questioning of the videotape evidence because otherwise there is no defense. Joran is on the tape, coming and going and coming back. It's his hotel room. And he stole the car and ran away. So the defense attorneys have a lot of 'splainin' to do.