Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #6

[Kateyes]

Ok, I can think of one more reason he confessed: He is scared shizzless!!! Aside from whatever the reason may be for the confession, I would like to thank the Lord for answering prayers - for Stefany's family to get justice, and finally, for Natalee's family to also get some justice. It is so tragic that either of these girls had to lose their life over a . On the other hand, if this confession is true, regardless of the reason he confessed, it is most likely the only good thing he has ever done. Please don't misunderstand me - I highly doubt his motives were good, but the outcome is good - that somehow truth was told. That in itself is a miracle, no matter how it came about! MOO

 

[SoCalSleuth]

She intruded on his private life?? His life hasn't been private since May 2005! must have been something secret concerning Natalee. Maybe evidence in the extortion case??Either Jug or Dave H said recently that the news started coverning Natalee's disappearance around 8 am east coast time which would be 7 am Peru time (see i got it right this time!)--and the tv in the room was supposed to be on--maybe it came on when he went out for coffee and she looked at his laptop. Beyond Belief--good question, what benefit to confessing? Maybe they made him lose his temper and he blurted it out? Maybe he realized his goose was cooked and just gave up. Note that the story benefits him perhaps because it wasn't premeditated or due to a robbery--maybe they have manslaughter in Peru.

 

[3doglady]

Fuhrman said her body would have been...indicating he didn't know for certain. I took it as he stated it; uncertain.

If you think her body couldn't have fit there then that's what you think. Maybe her body wasn't there at all. How can any of us know for certain?

They reported initially her body was fully clothed. Now it's partially clothed. I take it with a grain of salt. I do believe she's dead and murdered and that her family is grieving. If I were her Mother it would matter not to me where her body was laying in that room. And to the investigators that matter; they already know. So be it.

Agreed. I was just posting what MF said, because there was a difference in the drawing NG showed and Fox showed. I wasn't implying that her body wasn't there, only that there was not room (in room 204) for her to lay in the position the drawing showed.

 

[impatientredhead]

My question is why confess? What does he gain by confessing? Easier sentence? Some sort of immunity from something? Did they beat it out of him?

Terror and no one their to defend his "rights" would be my guess. Joran has probably never felt helpless before and isn't nearly as cocky and confident as he likes to portray himself.

 

[Kateyes]

I can think of a reason...waterboarding!!!

Hitting the thanks button just wasn't enough!! LOL. Never thought of that rationale. Thanks, I needed that!

 

[3doglady]

Aruba, take note.

 

[epiphany]

My question is why confess? What does he gain by confessing? Easier sentence? Some sort of immunity from something? Did they beat it out of him?

No beating. They may have found "confession-type" of evidence on his laptop, and presented it to him.

 

[Nore]

Didn't diagram of Stephany's body sy something about her eyes?..........strangle?

Yes, his laptop!!! and WHAT did he have on HIS laptop about Natalee, that was
so BAD he HAD to murder Stephany????

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I am wondering about the eye also..Bear with me please as I dont know where else to put this question.IF his computer holds something that proves beyond a doubt he killed Natalee being that is the first murder,could Aruba try to have him extradicted back to Aruba??? I hope not.We really need an Attorney on this site.

 

[Cher352]

Minibar? They have Coke Light and Coke in bottles in the mini bars in rooms that I have stayed in Europe.

Would a cheap hostel room even have a mini bar?

Someone posted the link to Tac earlier today, wish I have saved it so we could check to see if it is listed. Anyone else have it close by?

(Gosh I wish we had more than just one thread at a time)

 

[Nana46]

My question is why confess? What does he gain by confessing? Easier sentence? Some sort of immunity from something? Did they beat it out of him?

I wonder if all that travel, with Chile ousting him, then with Peruvian authorities...a lack of sleep and who knows what else maybe he just got tired of running...I dunno it is a shocker but makes me wonder if he got something in exchange for a confession....if not then Peru needs to come over here and show us how to get a confession out of folks,lol

 

[impatientredhead]

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I am wondering about the eye also..Bear with me please as I dont know where else to put this question.IF his computer holds something that proves beyond a doubt he killed Natalee being that is the first murder,could Aruba try to have him extradicted back to Aruba??? I hope not.We really need an Attorney on this site.

One of the articles posted awhile back said that Peru has him in custody and cannot be compelled to release him to anyone at this point. When they are done with him, including his time served, then the next country that wants him and has done the appropriate extradition paperwork would get next crack. Now they could choose to extradite him somewhere before his 35 years is up, but that does not seem likely. When his time is done if no one has requested him he automatically goes back to his home country.

 

[smart blonde]

~ I think Joran got Stephany to accompany him to his hotel room by saying he needed to pick something up (like cash), "it would only take a minute", etc., and that she expected they would soon be returning to the gaming tables at the casino.

~ I think Stephany went with him because 1). she believed him, and 2). she didn't want to hurt his feelings.

~ While they were in the lobby, she may have been getting a strange feeling that she shouldn't go up to his room- but again, she practiced a common trait with female crime victims everywhere... she didn't want to hurt his feelings.

~ Once in the room, Joran most likely tried to stall in someway, and then finally tried to 'make a move' on her, approaching her sexually.

~ Stephany, not interested in Joran sexually, rebuffed him, and when he started becoming more forceful, she walked towards the door of the hotel room to leave.

~ As she reached for the door knob, he grabbed the tennis racket, and swung hard at the back of her head/ neck.

~ Stunned and in pain, she fell to the ground, and he was on top of her. At this point he was overcome with rage at being rejected, and fear that she would scream loudly and bring others in the hotel to the room.

~ So as she struggled beneath him on the floor of the hotel room, he beat her, landing blow after blow on her face and head. He may have become very aroused by the violence, and may have attempted to pull her pants off at this point. Now, it was as much to do with control, as with sex.

~ She fought for her life, but was completely overpowered by his size, weight, strength, and fury.

~ As the struggle went on, he completely lost control of his actions, reached for the tennis racket, and in a blind rage, beat her to the death.

Stephany's rejection angered and humiliated him. He not only had thought he was going to 'get lucky/ get laid', he had also been hoping to get her to share or give her money to him.

There was no way he was going to let her leave his hotel room without getting one or the other.

 

[Nore]

Hitting the thanks button just wasn't enough!! LOL. Never thought of that rationale. Thanks, I needed that!

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Lets all hope.He needs the sh&t knocked out of him.I'm glad he wasn't caught in U.S...

 

[3doglady]

I wonder if all that travel, with Chile ousting him, then with Peruvian authorities...a lack of sleep and who knows what else maybe he just got tired of running...I dunno it is a shocker but makes me wonder if he got something in exchange for a confession....if not then Peru needs to come over here and show us how to get a confession out of folks,lol

Maybe they just described what they were going to do to him. If someone told me they were going to pull out my nails and then start on my teeth, I would tell them anything they wanted to hear.

 

[krowdkat]

Would a cheap hostel room even have a mini bar?

Someone posted the link to Tac earlier today, wish I have saved it so we could check to see if it is listed. Anyone else have it close by?

(Gosh I wish we had more than just one thread at a time)

Cher, I posted the link to Tac's info and photos. No mini bar listed. It's a hostel.

 

[Openmyeyes]

Terror and no one their to defend his "rights" would be my guess. Joran has probably never felt helpless before and isn't nearly as cocky and confident as he likes to portray himself.

Didn't someone say up thread that he wasn't getting along with his mother and he had to call friends for money? It sure seems his little bro isn't missing a beat worrying about his brother, either.

He really can't get out of this one. No charm, no money and no daddy means
he'll be hustling behind bars instead of infront of one.

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[costalpilot]

IF this report on msnbc is true, it brings to mind a question: How does it benefit Joran to confess? Are there plea deals in Peru? Anyone here have any knowledge Peru's legal system enough to know whether plea deals are done?

I can only think of two reasons he would confess: 1. the forensics and other evidence is iron-clad; 2. He will benefit from confessing in some way - a shorter sentence, or a better prison, whatever. I doubt he confessed becaue he suddenly grew a conscience while in the custody of Peru officials!

I was reading responses to an initial spanish to english translation of the confess report and someone who acted like they knew said:

if he can show he killed her as some kind of "response" to her looking at the computer ("and she had no right to do it so I just automatically swung at her and that killed her, kinda by mistake even") THEN, if you buy that of course, his charge is: MANSLAUGHTER.

don't get mad at me. I didn't say it, and I don't even know if its true. But if it is, THATS why he would confess, since they have him dead to rights anyway.

 

[Nana46]

Would this "genius" not have put password protection on his computer? He had NH info on there for anyone that could access it?????

 

[MaraSleuth]

Would a cheap hostel room even have a mini bar?

Someone posted the link to Tac earlier today, wish I have saved it so we could check to see if it is listed. Anyone else have it close by?

(Gosh I wish we had more than just one thread at a time)

http://hoteltac.net/
http://lima.hotelguide.net/data/h100149.htm

Or it was in the hotel room. People in Europe drink room temperature pop!!! I stayed in a hotel in Bremen (Germany) and the drinks were just on a side cubby.

Anyway - hotel says they have 24-Hour Room Service. Maybe they ordered something that we don't know about??

 

[3doglady]

Would this "genius" not have put password protection on his computer? He had NH info on there for anyone that could access it?????

It could be that she just googled his name and saw what MSM reported about him and Natalie.