Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #7

[impatientredhead]

I wonder why that is?

I would assume because he would have said no F'ing way.

 

[hollyblue]

Yes they can, and Peru can too.

As long as he has confessed, it is all good by me regardless for his 'reason' which can never really be proved beyond a doubt anyway imo.

I should have clarified my thoughts before, but I was thinking before he even went to SA....more or less surveillance of his entries.

I agree with you on the reason, but being a nut for human behavior, I'd like to know.:waitasec:

 

[RR0004]

It appears that Natalie's father had no clue Beth was doing this deal with Joran.

How sad is it that it all ended this way.

 

[Patty G]

I wonder why that is?

I really prefer not to give my thoughts on why Beth didn't tell her ex-husband about it.

 

[Patty G]

How sad is it that it all ended this way.

It is sad for a multiple of reasons. :censored:

 

[essies]

To add: In his own confession, he pretty much stated that "she made him" kill her, after "she tried to escape".

He's a predator.

ITA This is probably close to what JVS told his father about NH!!:furious: As, I'll always believe his father cleaned up for him and pulled the strings that allowed him to roam free and prey on who knows how many other woman till he met and murdered SF!!:furious:

 

[impatientredhead]

i think the fact that it was the anniversary of Natalies death has more to do with Stephanie's killing than Jorans "story" about her computer use, which threatened him so he took action. did you see the look on his face when he got his room key?

do you seriously believe they casually chit chated for 3 hours, and then he killed her in a fit of provoked passion and showered, dressed and calmly walked out the door in less than 30 minutes?

its aLL transparent lies, imo. the coffee trip was in support of his alibi, she was already dead, on his biggest anniversary. and not because she looked in his computer, but because she had something he wanted. her life.

I think him leaving with a dead body in the room and returning is much less likely then her being alive when he left for coffee and dead when he hightailed it out of the room to never return.

If he was going for an alibi leaving a dead girl in his room, registered in his name, with her blood all over his shirt that is still at the scene, and then trying to flee the country.... I just don't see the alibi value of the coffee run.

 

[Patty G]

It was Beth!? Wow...This is news to me....

It has been known that it was Beth since Friday but no one was listening to the information.

Joran received $10,000.00 in cash while in Aruba, then the $15,000.00 was a wire transfer. Hence $25,000.00.

ETA - Listen to Beth on the Today Show, on the fifth anniversary of Natalie's disappearance when she talks about all the lies Joran has gstated. Then keep in mind, that on May 10, 2010, the first money transaction happened.

 

[Cher352]

Here's another story about missing women in Columbia, too.

http://translate.google.com/transla...&hs=Cf1&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=n

The article states there are two missing women in Columbia who were frequent visitors to casinos. They disappeared during the time he was in Bogota. While there, JVDS stayed in 2 different hotels. The police in Columbia are checking the videos of the casinos there.

Wow this is scary! I know many have mentioned over the last few days about him maybe being a serial killer and now it seems even more of a possibility. Wonder just how common it is for women to go missing from casinos in those countries?

 

[krt]

I think him leaving with a dead body in the room and returning is much less likely then her being alive when he left for coffee and dead when he hightailed it out of the room to never return.

If he was going for an alibi leaving a dead girl in his room, registered in his name, with her blood all over his shirt that is still at the scene, and then trying to flee the country.... I just don't see the alibi value of the coffee run.

Unless he showered FIRST and then went for coffee allegedly?

 

[belimom]

It has been known that it was Beth since Friday but no one was listening to the information.

Joran received $10,000.00 in cash while in Aruba, then the $15,000.00 was a wire transfer. Hence $25,000.00.

I had been searching for who was behind the deal, but all I ever came across was that no information had been released regarding the person making the deal. Who broadcast/published it on Friday?

 

[believe09]

I will be interested to see if they release a TOD on Stephany. I think she was likely unconscious when he went out for coffee. If she had been drugged, it was possible he was intending on giving her the coffee and bread to revive her a little and to pursuade her that she gave him the money or whatever. I wonder if he caught her awake and trying to flee or something of that nature.

 

[Alisha8191]

The video of LE taking inventory of VDS's belongs shows them pulling a laptop out of a case/cover, IIRC. I also hope there is a lot of damning evidence on that thing.

Did you notice his face in that video when the police was looking at the laptop?

 

[Tadpole12]

Interesting update...snipped from AP news (link below)

Gamarra said the case will be turned over to prosecutors who will present formal charges against Van der Sloot. The National Prison Institute will determine which prison he will be held in while awaiting trial.

Police planned to take Van der Sloot to the hotel on Tuesday to participate in a reconstruction of the events leading to Flores' slaying, Gamarra said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-06-08-01-58-18

Hi enav.

It's so interesting to watch the process of justice from an other country.
Peru is an extaordinary place.

To return to the scene of the crime, must be overwhelming psychologically for the accused. Questioning on scene, then being made to recount events.

 

[md89]

Don't know if this was posted yet..

De Nederlandse advocaat van Joran van der Sloot, Bert de Rooij, zegt dat Van der Sloot mogelijk onder zware druk een valse bekentenis heeft afgelegd over de moord op Stephany Flores.

Bert de Rooij, the Dutch lawyer of Joran van der Sloot, says that Joran may have falsely confessed the murder of Stephany Flores because he was under high pressure.

De advocaat heeft de bekentenis van Joran formeel niet bevestigd gekregen, meldt hij tegen RTL. Wel weet De Rooij dat Joran van der Sloot in een telefoongesprek met zijn moeder aangegeven heeft de verhoormethoden van de Peruaanse politie te vrezen. Een huilende Joran van der Sloot zou deze methoden hebben aangeduid als barbaars.

The lawyer didn't get the confession confirmed he tells RTL News. He also tells that Joran spoke to his mother on the phone about that he feared the Peruvian interrogation techniques. A crying Joran said that those methods are barbaric.

De Rooij vertegenwoordigt Van der Sloot in deze zaak niet, omdat hij het rechtssysteem van Peru niet kent, maar hij adviseert Van der Sloot wel.

De Rooij doesn't represent Van der Sloot in this case, because he don't know the Peruvian laws, but he only gives him advice.

Source: AD.nl

 

[costalpilot]

I think him leaving with a dead body in the room and returning is much less likely then her being alive when he left for coffee and dead when he hightailed it out of the room to never return.

If he was going for an alibi leaving a dead girl in his room, registered in his name, with her blood all over his shirt that is still at the scene, and then trying to flee the country.... I just don't see the alibi value of the coffee run.

the alibi angle is, I left her in my room alone...which is evidenced by my getting TWO cups of coffee...one for HER...one for me.

and when I came back to the room, she was invading my space, on my computer, and THAT provoked me.

thats what he is saying. its all her fault. everything was fine till I left the untrustworthy, nosey aggressor in my room alone when I went to get US coffee.

we were fine for three hours, then, wham...she made me kill her. by looking in my computer,

pleaseeeeeeeee

as for leaving her dead body in the room when he goes for "their" coffee...he had lived in that hotel long enough to know when they cleaned his room, IF they cleaned his room every day. it wasn't risky at all.

 

[Belinda]

And here comes the retraction......

 

[SoCalSleuth]

Don't know if this was posted yet..

De Nederlandse advocaat van Joran van der Sloot, Bert de Rooij, zegt dat Van der Sloot mogelijk onder zware druk een valse bekentenis heeft afgelegd over de moord op Stephany Flores.

Bert de Rooij, the Dutch lawyer of Joran van der Sloot, says that Joran may have falsely confessed the murder of Stephany Flores because he was under high pressure.

De advocaat heeft de bekentenis van Joran formeel niet bevestigd gekregen, meldt hij tegen RTL. Wel weet De Rooij dat Joran van der Sloot in een telefoongesprek met zijn moeder aangegeven heeft de verhoormethoden van de Peruaanse politie te vrezen. Een huilende Joran van der Sloot zou deze methoden hebben aangeduid als barbaars.

The lawyer didn't get the confession confirmed he tells RTL News. He also tells that Joran spoke to his mother on the phone about that he feared the Peruvian interrogation techniques. A crying Joran said that those methods are barbaric.

De Rooij vertegenwoordigt Van der Sloot in deze zaak niet, omdat hij het rechtssysteem van Peru niet kent, maar hij adviseert Van der Sloot wel.

De Rooij doesn't represent Van der Sloot in this case, because he don't know the Peruvian laws, but he only gives him advice.

Source: AD.nl

Well here it comes, no surprise.

 

[Chiquita71]

Don't know if this was posted yet..

De Nederlandse advocaat van Joran van der Sloot, Bert de Rooij, zegt dat Van der Sloot mogelijk onder zware druk een valse bekentenis heeft afgelegd over de moord op Stephany Flores.

Bert de Rooij, the Dutch lawyer of Joran van der Sloot, says that Joran may have falsely confessed the murder of Stephany Flores because he was under high pressure.

De advocaat heeft de bekentenis van Joran formeel niet bevestigd gekregen, meldt hij tegen RTL. Wel weet De Rooij dat Joran van der Sloot in een telefoongesprek met zijn moeder aangegeven heeft de verhoormethoden van de Peruaanse politie te vrezen. Een huilende Joran van der Sloot zou deze methoden hebben aangeduid als barbaars.

The lawyer didn't get the confession confirmed he tells RTL News. He also tells that Joran spoke to his mother on the phone about that he feared the Peruvian interrogation techniques. A crying Joran said that those methods are barbaric.

De Rooij vertegenwoordigt Van der Sloot in deze zaak niet, omdat hij het rechtssysteem van Peru niet kent, maar hij adviseert Van der Sloot wel.

De Rooij doesn't represent Van der Sloot in this case, because he don't know the Peruvian laws, but he only gives him advice.

Source: AD.nl

Quote Respect md89
BBM

Thank you for that information. The unbelievable gall...(what about what he did to SF?!!!)if it is true that Joran was worried about "barbaric methods"...what ARE sociopaths? What are they?
Sorry everyone. It's just sooo hard to understand a "human" like this, I have read up on sociopaths and have read here at WS but there still is no end to my surprise at how sick they are...

:twocents:

 

[Betty P]

Well here it comes, no surprise.

Yep, though its surprising the Dutch authorities are coming to his rescue. It won't help, they have waaay too much evidence against him. Any attempt to get the charges thrown out isn't gonna work.