Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #9

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I don't think she picked up Joran's drink, I think that possibly someone else had been sitting in that spot prior to her arrival. Joran motions for her to move over (after time had passed and he thought the person that had been there wasn't coming back) and she simply moved that persons old drink out of her way.
 
Excuse me: may I ask if anyone had seen the Joy Behar show tonight, where the news was that his mom was there and saying that his confession may have been coerced?

Is this being discussed in any other thread?

Thank guys :)

aprilshowers - I saw that, but have not heard much more, except that I believe that the host of the NG show did say briefly that Anita van der Sloot was now in Peru, and that Joran now had a private attorney. She did not even say that Anita arranged for the private attorney, only that he had one. I had been wondering all day how it is that AVDS managed to get into Peru, and we have not seen any photos, video of her at all. How did she manage to sneak into Peru in such a stealthy manner?
 
Just catching up on the evening's posts.
Notice a lot of people were asking a question that was answered earlier in the night:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20007271-504083.html
"The FBI says on May 10, a $15,000 wire payment was sent van der Sloot with money from the Holloway family, which established the crime of extortion. There was also a 10-thousand dollar cash payment, which the Bureau says couldn't be used as a basis for a criminal charge."
 
I have been gone and missed so much can someone point me to the video? I started reading back but .....help and thank you so much.I'm normally glued to this case.I left last night at I think 10:30. I'm on east coast. Thank You!
 
It looked to me like that had been her seat and drink before Joran sat down. Maybe she had been sitting there and ordered a drink before she went to the bathroom. She comes back from the bathroom and Joran is there. She's not too sure if she should sit down in the same seat or not so she stands for a second before sitting down. Then Joran said "Oh was this your seat? " and moves the seat out so she moves over and takes her drink.
 
Just spotted a link that has been translated by our in-house translators. Thank you translators. :)

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5270948&postcount=26"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Translation Thread JVDS[/ame]
 
Just catching up on the evening's posts.
Notice a lot of people were asking a question that was answered earlier in the night:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20007271-504083.html
"The FBI says on May 10, a $15,000 wire payment was sent van der Sloot with money from the Holloway family, which established the crime of extortion. There was also a 10-thousand dollar cash payment, which the Bureau says couldn't be used as a basis for a criminal charge."

This is the first time now that it states the "Holloway Family" earlier reports stated "private money" and minds wondered whose "private money".

Thanks for posting.
 
Wow - Pat Brown said that? Now that seems out of charachter for her. Besides, Stephany still had her panties on (as far as we know). Joran doesn't seem the type to put them back on after such an act.

Okay -- gonna go barf now.

MOO

Mel

I got the impression Pat Brown was discussing Joran possibly wanting Stephany to perform oral sex on him..JMO
 
I have been gone and missed so much can someone point me to the video? I started reading back but .....help and thank you so much.I'm normally glued to this case.I left last night at I think 10:30. I'm on east coast. Thank You!

http://www.larepublica.pe/node/271311/01#fotos

Hope this helps- I can't see it as clearly as other can, obviously, from their very helpful follow up posts. Time to upgrade my computer again, I guess, lol!
 
The casino video is so different to me than the hotel video. In the casino video, she walks either beside him or in front of him and talking most of the way. At the hotel, she is in the background with her head down and from what they show, I don't see them speak to each other... Does anyone know what the 18 10 18 11 18 12 is on the video?
 
It looked to me like that had been her seat and drink before Joran sat down. Maybe she had been sitting there and ordered a drink before she went to the bathroom. She comes back from the bathroom and Joran is there. She's not too sure if she should sit down in the same seat or not so she stands for a second before sitting down. Then Joran said "Oh was this your seat? " and moves the seat out so she moves over and takes her drink.

Could be, but its hard to tell based on the video. We know SF had to drive her friends home first, she went to her house, and then left. Now if she went into the bathroom and came back, maybe JVDS was watching her, and SF sat down?

They appear pretty friendly, but then they are 2 young people gambling. Seems innocent at the time.
 
just read the article about his initial details of the killing. Blaming it on the police, a man with a gun, and a man with a knife. I'm gobsmacked.

The most incredible part of your story has to do with what happened in his hotel room, where he was found dead Flores.

As narrated as they came to his room found a man in bed, who had a pistol in his belt, and another man emerged from the bathroom with a knife. He added that one of them hit the girl in the face.

According to the Dutchman would have said, their alleged attackers were the same police who asked him for money on the road.

I guess this is before he knew a camera was on him most of the night, eh?

http://translate.google.ca/translat...Q7gEwAA&prev=/search?q=el+comercio+peru&hl=en

MOO

Mel
 
Watching NG for a second time and Pat Brown says that JVDS was probably performing oral sex on Stephany. I'm sorry but I had to LMAO b/c that sounds so gross considering that it was her time of the month. I don't know where she got that info from but I'm certain that it's wrong.

BBM

ugh! That is just plain gross. What's wrong with that woman?
 
Sorry (I've almost got info overload) but was it said anywhere that he actually checked out? All I remember reading are references to his leaving.

He never checked out. It is in the video when Joran and Stephany enter the lobby of the hotel, go to the room, Joran leaves with his bags and never stops to collect his $200.00 before going to jail. (being a little silly at the end of my sentence.)
:crazy:
 
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But while this decision making is going on Joran kills a young woman in Peru and they got him. Now there's nothing to stop the US from bringing charges because at that point they don't need Aruba's cooperation anymore nor do they need to lure him to the US. Problem miraculously solved through Joran's own fault though it took poor Stephany's life to solve the problem. That's why the FBI made the charges when they did... through Joran's own despicable actions he made it easy for the FBI to be able to bring the charges because he was in custody in Peru and neither Aruba's cooperation nor the possible need to try to lure him to the US mattered anymore.

LilJoePinto, thank you for taking the time for posting this fabulous informative post.

The only question I have is the part that I bolded. Why at that point do they not need Aruba's cooperation anymore.
 
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