All the eyewitnesses said that she was unsteady, fell down stairs. Would chime with being drugged.
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All the eyewitnesses said that she was unsteady, fell down stairs. Would chime with being drugged.
I don’t think her being drugged necessarily means she wasn’t murdered.
Not to get too wrapped up in who said what, a couple thoughts.
1) MP said they were gone 15 minutes, that is a estimate, he was not timing them, he was pre-occupied with his video game, who knows how much time elasped. Much like saying "I be back in five"
2)Why i suggested it was stupid to lie about going to CVS, is because that would be verifiable. A better lie would be we went to the dock to see a boat. Not verifiable.
15 minutes and 40 minutes aren’t comparable even when on the phone. His phone, the car will all have had clocks and he and Shannan traded several phone calls that night, so he had a reliable frame of reference in his phone. MP also says that the 15 minute drive happened 20 minutes after they arrived. It wasn’t later in the night (2:55) when the issue of CVS reared its head.
Also, if she had just returned from a trip to CVS, why would she have then needed to send MP up there for cards and lube? On top of that, she phoned CVS at 2:55, at least a couple of hours after the trip with Brewer. So that call is not evidence she intended to visit CVS.
Do you really think it would have been plausible from Brewer, in the middle of an escort date, when one or both were high, in the middle of the night, to suddenly decide to go see a boat and take Shannan with him? And Shannan who was terrified of water agreed? That doesn’t sound at all plausible to me.
Don’t forget either that nobody was really doing anything about SG at this point and the depositions were way in the future. By the time SCPD started getting their acts together and asking questions, any opportunity to check CVS cameras etc would have been long gone
Also, if she had just returned from a trip to CVS, why would she have then needed to send MP up there for cards and lube? On top of that, she phoned CVS at 2:55, at least a couple of hours after the trip with Brewer. So that call is not evidence she intended to visit CVS.
Do you really think it would have been plausible from Brewer, in the middle of an escort date, when one or both were high, in the middle of the night, to suddenly decide to go see a boat and take Shannan with him? And Shannan who was terrified of water agreed? That doesn’t sound at all plausible to me.
Don’t forget either that nobody was really doing anything about SG at this point and the depositions were way in the future. By the time SCPD started getting their acts together and asking questions, any opportunity to check CVS cameras etc would have been long gone
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Oh I agree, just brain storming.
Anyone notice in the interview with the escort who came forward alleging she slept with Officer Burke also called in an anonymous tip about a friend known to party with Officer Jimmy Burke. She wouldnt reveal who the friend was, until she accidentally used the name “Jimmy Brewer” name instead of Burke. Joe Brewer was Shannans john.
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The tip was on Lindsay Henry, a Town of Babylon Councilmen who has a checkered past (domestic violence arrests) and happen to reside in New Bedford, MA in the late 80's when 11 women were murdered, many of them sex workers.
He's been discussed on these forums.
*record scratch*
Wait, what? Lindsay Henry resided in NB in the late 80s?
Is there a verified source about this? Did he grow up there?
He was at UMASS 1989-93 and got a BA in Ocean Science, are you saying he was at UMASS Dartmouth rather than, say, Amherst and that is a verified fact? Because if so the general area around UMASS Dartmouth was a dumping ground and that's a huge coincidence. He would have only been a teen/college kid then though, correct?
Can anyone clear this up?
Wait, what? Lindsay Henry resided in NB in the late 80s?
Is there a verified source about this? Did he grow up there?
He was at UMASS 1989-93 and got a BA in Ocean Science, are you saying he was at UMASS Dartmouth rather than, say, Amherst and that is a verified fact? Because if so the general area around UMASS Dartmouth was a dumping ground and that's a huge coincidence. He would have only been a teen/college kid then though, correct?
Can anyone clear this up?
Of course the eyewitnesses who made these statements were POI and the last people to see Shannan alive. As well both were quality up-standing individuals.
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I agree!
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The tip was made on Lindsay Henry, he was also the one that threw the party that Leanne met Burke at...his father Patrick was Spota's mentor...start with him, Burke, Brewer, Hackett and Pak and you will find not only SG killer but also GB4 killer...
He did not pass the polygraph. It was inconclusive and can be beaten very easily, that's why they're not admissible in a court of law. Side bar: Pak fell asleep 10 minutes into his polygraph and claimed to have passed, but his was inconclusive as well. It's speculated by some present for Pak's test that he drugged himself, why he fell asleep, to impact the results.
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