I think there should be a thread specific to the Linthicum John Doe.
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I think there should be a thread specific to the Linthicum John Doe.
...as more info continues to come out with regards to the Lyon sisters' case, the more I really believe that there is a strong connection to the cold case of 18 yr old, Eileen Kelly, who disappeared after getting off at a bus stop in Hyattsville, Maryland in broad daylight on December 14, 1974. Her body was found on December 22, 1974 and based on the coroner's report. there is a possibility that Eileen had been held captive and alive for several days before she was murdered and dumped. This occurred just 3 month's before the Lyon sisters' disappearance. Eileen's physical description as white with blonde hair and petite in stature gives me such a strong hunch or gut reaction that her case is linked to the lyons'. I know that Richard has mentioned this possible connection in a thread, but I would like to know what other WS members think about this also. Thanks.
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However, as more info continues to come out with regards to the Lyon sisters' case, the more I really believe that there is a strong connection to the cold case of 18 yr old, Eileen Kelly, who disappeared after getting off at a bus stop in Hyattsville, Maryland in broad daylight on December 14, 1974. Her body was found on December 22, 1974 and based on the coroner's report. there is a possibility that Eileen had been held captive and alive for several days before she was murdered and dumped.
Then Eileen Kelly disappeared exactly one day after Doreen Carlucci and Joanne Delardo disappeared from Woodbridge, New Jersey. And her body was found exactly one day before the three girls disappeared from Fort Worth, Texas.
I just wonder if the Lyon sisters kidnapping was a one off event or if abuse or worse happened regularly. I wonder if the authorities are looking into other missing children's cases from Virginia and other states.
I really believe that the Welchs' had something to do with the abduction, assault, and murder of 18 yr old Eileen Kelly from Hyattsville, Maryland who disappeared after departing a bus in Hyattsville in December 1974 just 3 months before the Lyon sisters. I hope LE in the Lyon sisters' case is looking into this. Eileen's body was found just inside the DC line so would be in their jurisdiction.
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Kraisel, in the early sixties. Is it my imagination, or does he look like Tape Recorder Man? Also, does anyone else find it odd that until about a week ago, there were pictures of his ugly face on the internet, but now there aren't, except for this one?
It does seem odd that this deceased young man has never been identified, but really hard to tell if it has any connection to the Lyon sisters' case. However, as more info continues to come out with regards to the Lyon sisters' case, the more I really believe that there is a strong connection to the cold case of 18 yr old, Eileen Kelly, who disappeared after getting off at a bus stop in Hyattsville, Maryland in broad daylight on December 14, 1974. Her body was found on December 22, 1974 and based on the coroner's report. there is a possibility that Eileen had been held captive and alive for several days before she was murdered and dumped. This occurred just 3 month's before the Lyon sisters' disappearance. Eileen's physical description as white with blonde hair and petite in stature gives me such a strong hunch or gut reaction that her case is linked to the lyons'. I know that Richard has mentioned this possible connection in a thread, but I would like to know what other WS members think about this also. Thanks.
As a point of clarity, Eileen was seen going to the Washington DC bus terminal near her place of employment, but was never seen getting off the bus in Hyattsville.
Hyattsville was indeed her destination, because she was to meet her father at the Hyattsville bus stop and from there was to go with her father to a car dealership to look at a new car he was going to buy for her. Her father was at the bus stop, but she never arrived.
With this in mind, what young person would intentionally get off the bus at an earlier stop, unless compelled to do so? It is, of course, possible that she boarded a different bus and would have had to walk to her intended destination. So there are two possible abduction scenarios.
Her body was found more than a week later just inside the Washington DC/ Prince Georges County (MD) line and it was obvious to LE that she had been held alive for some time before being murdered.
The case was origionally being pursued by Prince Georges County Police as a missing person case because her father reported her missing from Hyattsville. But when her body was found in DC, and there was no witness or evidence that she had made it to Hyattsville, MD, the case became a murder investigation, and was transferred to Washington DC jurisdiction, where it remains today as unsolved.
I personally spoke with the officer in charge of her case some time back and suggested a possible connection to the Lyon case. He was well aware of the Lyon case and its recent developments and said that he would contact MCP investigators about possible links.
I personally feel that there are stronger connections to Lloyd Welch in regard to Eileen Kelly than there are to the Lyon sisters and that a much stronger case could be presented if forensic evidence still exists and if personal connections can be established.
Richard and other WS members:
1) What are your thoughts about DeBardeleben
having been involved in some way?
2) There is one member who still strongly believes
That "D" was the abductor and got away literally
and also away with other horrible crimes because he was not
caught in time.
3) Any chance HE could've been "C D" spoken about by another
prisoner?
I see his name was James Mitchell (Michael) DeBardeleben.
4) Could D and others have been part of a network of
abductors?