Possible Victim: Fire Island Jane Doe, UP9098, found Davis Park Apr 1996 & Ocean Parkway Apr 2011 - Karen Vergata

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I'll have to get up to speed on his victims. You seem to know a bit about the case. Do you
think that Jane doe 9098 could be a victim of RS?

IF so, I'd say she would be his last victim--the legs were pulled out of the water 4/20/96--he was arrested 4/6/96, so he would have had to taken her and killed/dismembered literally just before his arrest--I think they had him under some surveillance just prior to his arrest as well--sometimes the extra pressure of possible detection makes sk's amp up, and this may indeed have been a last frenzied kill -not sure if they said how long they thought the legs were apart from the body, if they could even tell after being in the water, but they could probably get close to a timeline--
 
sidenote:although for obvious reasons Shulman is considered to be a dismembering sk, they don't always dismember all of their victims--I only mention this because I have always wondered about Colleen Mcnamee possibly being tied to him--timeline fits, but she was not dismembered-BUT the one thing that jumped out for me was the fact that her parents said they last saw her get into a small BLUE car with a "friend" that morning-Shulman drove his brother's BLUE caddy, and although a caddy, it wasn't a boat, but a smaller model version seville I believe--and if she is tied to him, by default and the investigating detective's own words "that they are tied together, killed by the same killer", then Rita Tangredi-Beinlich( I think that is her name) is his victim as well---Seems like if you showed Colleen's dad dad a picture of shulman's car he would know right away if that was it-I am sure he will never forget it

maybe mcnamee and tangredi were the brother's doing-he just couldn't dismember, but he wanted to show his brother he could kill, too?
 
IF so, I'd say she would be his last victim--the legs were pulled out of the water 4/20/96--he was arrested 4/6/96, so he would have had to taken her and killed/dismembered literally just before his arrest--I think they had him under some surveillance just prior to his arrest as well--sometimes the extra pressure of possible detection makes sk's amp up, and this may indeed have been a last frenzied kill -not sure if they said how long they thought the legs were apart from the body, if they could even tell after being in the water, but they could probably get close to a timeline--

For some reason, it sticks in my mind that it was said her legs were there only a short time. Maybe 2 weeks. I swear I read that, but I have gone back to try to find where I read that and haven't been able to find it. I would imagine it was only a short time period since scars on her legs and toenail polish were still in tact to be able to note.
 
For some reason, it sticks in my mind that it was said her legs were there only a short time. Maybe 2 weeks. I swear I read that, but I have gone back to try to find where I read that and haven't been able to find it. I would imagine it was only a short time period since scars on her legs and toenail polish were still in tact to be able to note.

they were in a garbage bag. there was no indication in any reports about how long the legs were there.
 
Has any missing females been ruled out for this jane doe ?

I came across this missing since Jan '96.

Missing from NJ. Looks similar to me.
 
Has any missing females been ruled out for this jane doe ?

I came across this missing since Jan '96.

Missing from NJ. Looks similar to me.


9098's Namus page states DNA (samples available - not yet submitted) so I doubt at least as DNA goes any has been ruled out. The Ruffini girls page doesn't mention any scars on her legs or ankle even though the timeline and age are right.

As far as resemblances goes I always thought Alicia Markovich looked similar to the sketch. The 15 year old went missing from Pennsylvania back in 87 but no mention of scars although I guess they could have been made after she went missing.
 
I'm so lost! How do I find this Ruffini girl that you are talking about.
Do you have a link for me please?
 
I found an orthopedic surgeon who has a blog. I'm going to send an email describing the incisions as we know. Hopefully identifying what procedure may have occurred will help us in identifying this woman.
 
I found an orthopedic surgeon who has a blog. I'm going to send an email describing the incisions as we know. Hopefully identifying what procedure may have occurred will help us in identifying this woman.

I got a response. Here is what Dr. Lance Silverman, Minnesota Ankle and Foot Blog on Wordpress had to say:

I am happy to help out as best I can.

I don’t have information on bone trauma, just the size and description of the surgical scars. If you get x-rays of the limbs I may be able to help more.

The right leg had a 3.5″ scar on the posterior calf muscle.
This is most likely a calf muscle lengthening procedure performed bilaterally, for example – a Strayer or Vulpius procedure (ie a Gastrocnemius recession). It is generally performed for tight calf muscles that are the result of congenital causes (cerebral palsy in kids, congenitally tight calf muscles that cause toe walking as well).

In adults there are dozens of related causes to indicate this procedure. In 1996, I would need to know the area of the country that this victim was to give you a better idea as to whether there was a doctor in the area who might have been doing these procedures routinely.

A 1″ linear, L shaped scar on the shin (I need to know where on the shin to limit the possibilities and if there were any knee, hip, thigh or groin scars)

And a .5″ scar on the medial ankle (likely a percutaneously placed screw for an external fixation or temporary clamp placed in surgery).

The left leg had a similar 3.5″ scar on the inner side of the calf muscle (calf muscle lengthening again), and a 2″ surgical scar with adjacent suture scars on the medial left ankle (this is usually going to be a scar from an ankle fracture repair but given the calf muscle lengthening bilaterally, it could be a scar from a derotation osteotomy as a child).

Either this person was in a multi-trauma with bilateral lower extremity fracture and later developed the calf muscle contractures, or
she was a child born with cerebral palsy or some other neuromuscular disease and had a series of procedures performed to adjust the limb deformities as they grew.

If you catch the killer please let me know.
 
So this guy not only preys on 90 lb girls but people who are physically challenged? My stomach turned as I read that. What a *****.
 
So this guy not only preys on 90 lb girls but people who are physically challenged? My stomach turned as I read that. What a *****.

Ditto. If this woman did have cerebral palsy, it would also make sense she would be thin. I'm going to look into other neuromuscular diseases.

I answered his question of where the surgery may have been performed. If she did have cerebral palsy, that should help us narrow our search of missing women before 1996.
 
This world is gross sometimes. Makes me want to just live by myself somewhere.
 

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