Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert

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GIAGREEN - you have lost all credibility with me. How you can say that the recording of SG is not important is beyond me. That's all I needed to hear from you.
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GIAGREEN - you have lost all credibility with me. How you can say that the recording of SG is not important is beyond me. That's all I needed to hear from you.
THanks

LIN are we reading the same thing? I didn't see where giagreen says anything about SG recording not being important? Please advise.
 
GIAGREEN - you have lost all credibility with me. How you can say that the recording of SG is not important is beyond me. That's all I needed to hear from you.
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Never. Not once did I say the 911 recordings where not important.

LINATIVE13 - You have lost all credibility with me because you put words in people's mouths and twist what they are trying to say. Have a great day :)
 
AS WE SPEAK there are certain elements that have expanded their strip club operations and are creating something like a Mini-Brothel operation. Store fronts that encourage folks to come in and 'meet' people, store fronts that are disguised as Vapor rooms. Go to the rear and experience pleasure. They even supply the condoms. Why not because some of the better known people in the PD are their best customers.....
 
Will these certain elements have a BRING YOUR DAUGHTERS TO WORK DAY?
 
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Honesty I think your just bored and if you don't agree with me then move on. There is no need to sit and twist what I say and its just gotten old on this thread. I never NEVER once said her 911 call was not important. Now if YOU get to hear the 911 call or not isn't important. Now please stop twisting my words to fit your need to be snarky. If you dont agree then scroll past it. There are dead victims who still need justice lets stay focused on that....eh
 
AS WE SPEAK there are certain elements that have expanded their strip club operations and are creating something like a Mini-Brothel operation. Store fronts that encourage folks to come in and 'meet' people, store fronts that are disguised as Vapor rooms. Go to the rear and experience pleasure. They even supply the condoms. Why not because some of the better known people in the PD are their best customers.....

Would love to hear a bit more on this if you can.
 
That's it? That's all you've got? Please quote me as to where I said exacly that the 911 call is not important. Seriously.
I read over the post LIN was referring to. While one can make a case that you actually suggested that, I don't think that was your intention. Heck, we aren't professional writers that take time to write and re-write a post and then write it again. We just shoot from the hip and many times it isn't clear. I can't believe YOU would say the 911 tape is NOT IMPORTANT. It may well be it turns out that way, but until it is heard all we have to rely on that it is not important is the word of a soon retiring detective who said he heard it.
 
Long ago and in another thread, there was discussion about SG and her association with Joseph Ruis. At the time Shannan went missing she was a co-defendant in a case against an escort service/Joseph Ruis. (Joseph Ruis was eventually convicted of money laundering and sentence to prison, then paroled.)

I believe the escort service/s operated by Ruis is where Shannan met boyfriend (Diaz), and possibly how she became acquainted with Michael Pak.

Today, I found few more bits of info related to this NJ escort service:

- Online resume - office manager for Lace Escorts 2002-2007

http://radaris.com/p/Jacklyn/Harris/

East Orange NJ
from 2002-2007
office manager for Lace Escorts

- These sites list Ruis as "Partner" (not OWNER) of Lace Escorts (Soooo... who are the other partners??)

http://www.whereorg.com/lace-escorts-10467825

http://yellow-pages.me/NJ/lace-escorts-281844.html


And, on the link below... there's a K Goldwaite (184 New York Ave, Jersey City, NJ) listed as owner "First Professional Referral Services Inc"

https://phones.radaris.com/20165353


These things may or may not be worth additional research.






http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?181144-Who-benefited-from-the-killings/page4
 
What if parties involved set out to scare Shannon and teach her a lesson, not necessarily kill her.
 
I have been reading up on the concept of synchronicity this morning. One thing that has always intrigued me about this case is how Shannon's disappearance led to the discovery of the other victims of the LISK and how weird it would be if her death is in fact not related. I have always felt that her death in a tragic and bittersweet way served a purpose to perhaps bring justice to others. Synchronicity is the idea that two unrelated events are intertwined. Interesting stuff.
 
fred&edna: listed under "Amusement Machine Suppliers" lol how *clever*
http://www.fyple.com/company/first-professional-referral-services-inc-qz1ee1a/

btw I know that block the New York Avenue address is on *very* well. Like the back of my hand.

It's residential, two units. One's for sale right now:
http://www.remax.com/realestatehome...e-no-2f-jersey-city-nj-07307-id240833422.html


Within the first link in your post there's an address of 1XX Sherman Ave, Jersey City.

And, that address corresponds to the old new reports:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/07/charge_call_girl_ring_was_from.html


The second link is the 1XX New York Ave address associated with FPRS (First Professional Referral Services) and Goldwaite (which I had in my post). Same business name but different address.

I'm wondering if Goldwaite was a partner with Ruis at some point? OR is FPRS now a different business? OR are they back in business at a different address? Who is this KGoldwaite and when did he become associated with FPRS??
 
Within the first link in your post there's an address of 1XX Sherman Ave, Jersey City.

And, that address corresponds to the old new reports:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/07/charge_call_girl_ring_was_from.html


The second link is the 1XX New York Ave address associated with FPRS (First Professional Referral Services) and Goldwaite (which I had in my post). Same business name but different address.

I'm wondering if Goldwaite was a partner with Ruis at some point? OR is FPRS now a different business? OR are they back in business at a different address? Who is this KGoldwaite and when did he become associated with FPRS??

I pulled records on the NY Ave address and its ownership history is not linked to Goldwaite going back as far as 2007. It was converted to 4 condos at that point and the owners of each of those condos with the exception of one owner bought into the building at that time. The most recent owner purchased his space in 2010 or so, so I guess it's possible that Goldwaite (who I'm not convinced is an actual person) rented that apartment prior to then. The Sherman Ave address (which was where the escort office/call center was located) is a mixed use space with office/retail on the floor that I considered renting a few years back when I was looking for a work space. It's very close to the NY Ave apartment so that's a curious thing.

I can't link Ruis to that apartment though. His mailing address was a different apartment in the same general neighborhood but about a mile away on the Union city line. What is a fun fact, however, is that until recently he owned a condo in the tiny gated community of "Society Hill" in JC.

Which is extremely lolworthy (to me) because the general feel there (when I drove through once by accident) is a bit snobby, but it's also where *this* infamous/horrible pimp and his mother lived:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/05/jersey_city_society_hill_pimp_1.html

And no, it wasn't the same condo. I do wonder what the chances are that the two pimps didn't know each other are though.
(Prince is not alive to tell us, he died of cancer in jail).

edited to add: here's another fun thing, fwiw. The phone # associated with First Professional Referral Services Inc http://localmarket.bottomlinefitness.com/_Jersey_City_NJ-p1576302-Jersey_City_NJ.html

now links to a (young) professional who did internships with the NYPD counter-terrorism department etc. He's in surveillance/security and he may get a lot of weird phone calls (I'm guessing the number was reassigned to him and he's got nothing to do with any of this)
 
Has anyone in this thread heard that SG toxicology report came back completely negative to any illegal drugs?
Meaning she waa not high the night she went missing.

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I pulled records on the NY Ave address and its ownership history is not linked to Goldwaite going back as far as 2007. It was converted to 4 condos at that point and the owners of each of those condos with the exception of one owner bought into the building at that time. The most recent owner purchased his space in 2010 or so, so I guess it's possible that Goldwaite (who I'm not convinced is an actual person) rented that apartment prior to then. The Sherman Ave address (which was where the escort office/call center was located) is a mixed use space with office/retail on the floor that I considered renting a few years back when I was looking for a work space. It's very close to the NY Ave apartment so that's a curious thing.

I can't link Ruis to that apartment though. His mailing address was a different apartment in the same general neighborhood but about a mile away on the Union city line. What is a fun fact, however, is that until recently he owned a condo in the tiny gated community of "Society Hill" in JC.

Which is extremely lolworthy (to me) because the general feel there (when I drove through once by accident) is a bit snobby, but it's also where *this* infamous/horrible pimp and his mother lived:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/05/jersey_city_society_hill_pimp_1.html

And no, it wasn't the same condo. I do wonder what the chances are that the two pimps didn't know each other are though.
(Prince is not alive to tell us, he died of cancer in jail).

edited to add: here's another fun thing, fwiw. The phone # associated with First Professional Referral Services Inc http://localmarket.bottomlinefitness.com/_Jersey_City_NJ-p1576302-Jersey_City_NJ.html

now links to a (young) professional who did internships with the NYPD counter-terrorism department etc. He's in surveillance/security and he may get a lot of weird phone calls (I'm guessing the number was reassigned to him and he's got nothing to do with any of this)

So, these two pimps Brown aka Prince AND Ruis lived in the same tiny upscale gated community??? I'd bet they knew each other and/or knew the same people... dealers, etc.

I have two addresses for JRuis:

Lee Court and Leonard Street

http://njparcels.com/owner/0906_26102_15_C30J1

At least one of the properties was ?forfeited?seized? when he was arrested and had to file bankruptcy, and evidently there was some legal stink about it:

http://www.njlawarchive.com/20131118102512188185771/

Went back to the old thread and it appears "Park Avenue, Hoboken" property was forfeited.


*What a strange treasure trove of info (including the phone number linked to NYPD surveillance guy). Thanks for including a news report with photo of "Prince"... what a freak!!
 
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