many thanks, great find, very interesting.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
... She is also setting up a trust fund in her daughter’s name to create shelters for abused women. ...
June Steenkamp, who once shunned the media, is now courting it. She will do what it takes to survive and keep her daughter’s name alive. ...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...p-interview-now-clear-reeva-never-coming-back
Yes I remember it being announced too and recall thinking what convenient timing, he now accepts the blame for Tashas and Henke has been coerced into signing the affadavit. At that point I thought it was defence desperate tactics as I was sure a DE verdict was coming in. How wrong I was.
The real pic showed much more chaos, if I'm right.
At the time nobody could find a different pic to disprove that the claims were perhaps exaggerated. I wanted the big chaotic scene of broken stuff but could only find this. It does show a broken trophy.
View attachment 62651
Does it mean the cops interpreted this as an argument or is this even the crime scene photo? I don't know but I would like full evidence photos to judge myself. I don't think this is the main game for evidence anyway there were more signs of chaos just upstairs. IMHO
Im SO glad June is staying busy, giving interviews, promoting her book, telling the other side of this story - finding her VOICE - willingly taking on her daughters compassionate project.
With parents like June and Barry, its easy to see how Reeva grew into such a warm, friendly, loving, generous woman.
The National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) said it will file papers for leave to appeal this week in the Oscar Pistorius trial, even though, as was initially thought, there is no deadline.
http://citizen.co.za/268559/npa-confirm-oscar-appeal/
From Grant's paper "The Seekoei Barrier":
The appeal judges found the state can only be appeal against a High Court judgment if the accused was acquitted. Therefore, the state cannot appeal a decision if there was a conviction on a competent verdict - in other words where the accused was found guilty of a less serious charge, in this case theft.
This creates a double standard in the law, because the same does not hold for the lower courts (magistrates' courts and district courts).
Along this same note....I'll never forget a small published snippet I read from the book Oscar wrote. There was a few added pages (actually written by his Dad I believe) and it discussed the day Oscar, at 11 months, had his legs amputated. He and his wife had made a decision and scheduled the operation long ago, after much research (sounded like this was mainly done by the wife) and agonizing over what to do. On the day of Oscar's scheduled surgery his Dad decided to attend a business meeting instead and let his wife handle taking Oscar to the hospital and wait through the operation all by herself. He said in the middle of the meeting, he decided he should have gone with his wife and been there. (Yah, ya think?) So 1/2 way through the meeting he explained to everyone what was taking place and he needed to leave. When he arrived at the hospital the operation was already over and Oscar was out of recovery, as I believe the article stated he walked into the room and his wife was holding Oscar.
I couldn't believe a parent could do that. Not just to his 11 month old son, but to his wife. To let her handle one of the most horrific and terrifying days of her life, all alone. Either change the meeting date or if for some reason seriously that crucial, then reschedule the surgery date. But letting your wife fare it alone - not an option. What a class a$$ dirt wad. Pretty much sums up what a poor excuse of a husband, father and human being this man is.
I definitely agree with you Col.Mustard...."while (almost) anyone can have kids, not everyone should".
BIB - I know. Mind you, having seen how she so casually discounted ear witness testimony, I'm not sure the missing phone would have made any difference to her, especially if there was no way of knowing the contents of what was deleted. I'm still very interested to know why all messages received after the killing were deleted.
What was so incriminating that they needed to be wiped? Messages suggesting OP use a tried and trusted intruder excuse? Who knows. That's just another secret the clan will take with them to the grave. I would like to ask CP "How do you tweet at night?"
Thanks for info. Is the "no deadline" due to the fact that before the State can appeal the verdict they must first appeal what Grant calls in his post "The Seekoei Hurdle" which affects judgements handed down by the high court, i.e.:
In which case, if I understand it correctly, only after a successful appeal of the Seekoei verdict, which Grant notes has been tried several times, could the State then appeal Masipa's verdict.
Fascinating stuff. Hope Nel is relying on Grant to write what are going to be extremely complex submissions after the State's HOAs which left so much to be desired compared with the defence's well argued, reasoned and well written HOAs.
agree about the phone most likely being cited as irrelevant to masipa [cf. ammunition type, whatsapp messages/relationship state]. but something needed wiping - and justified the risk of taking the phone.
on the supposed botha/phone 'deal', from the defence hoa p11:
25. In particular the State failed to call Warrant Officer Botha,
notwithstanding various challenges for it to do so.
26. The State does not even deal with this failure, which is surprising,
particularly if regard is had to the State’s duty to act without fear, favour
and prejudice.
this to me indicates that there was not a deal between 'mention of botha' and 'mention of the phone theft'. although i suppose there could have been some kind of variation in the deal.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03000/Supplementary_Head_3000376a.pdf
BBM That's quite possible, someone had posted one of the Prof's tweets asking for a translation for an article awhile back and it mentioned he had some homework(or some such description) to do for him.
What I would like to know is whether anyone has taken note of the books and what they were in one of the pics of OP's kitchen? From the titles I could read there was more than one that was all about forensics, detectives, profiling, psychology, narcissists and mind games kind of stuff(that being gleaned from doing simple searches for book reviews on the titles/authors). Looks like OP was doing his own homework since his supposed interests were running and architecture...
View attachment 62693
great spot.
i was also looking at that photo, but at the other side... an iphone 4 charger, reeva's i assume. wasn't she supposed to have her phone upstairs?
re: the books... first one i checked...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Byleveld-dossier-serial-Hanlie-Retief-ebook/dp/B005JD2OES
!!
on the supposed botha/phone 'deal', from the defence hoa p11:
25. In particular the State failed to call Warrant Officer Botha,
notwithstanding various challenges for it to do so.
26. The State does not even deal with this failure, which is surprising,
particularly if regard is had to the States duty to act without fear, favour
and prejudice.
this to me indicates that there was not a deal between 'mention of botha' and 'mention of the phone theft'. although i suppose there could have been some kind of variation in the deal.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03000/Supplementary_Head_3000376a.pdf
Yup yup, then there's the Alex Cross series(a specialist in forensic psychology turned detective), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Alex_Cross; the Inside Steve's Brain(how he was famous for being a volatile narcissist); Madoff: The Man Who Stole $65 Billion(the wealth management arm of his business was an elaborate Ponzi scheme); even the book Love Sick(not sure if this is the same one, Love Sick: Love as a Mental Illness), plus Stolen?.. like were these OP's books?
Oh yea, notice the pics on the counter? None of RS even though they were sooo in love...
BBM That's quite possible, someone had posted one of the Prof's tweets asking for a translation for an article awhile back and it mentioned he had some homework(or some such description) to do for him.
What I would like to know is whether anyone has taken note of the books and what they were in one of the pics of OP's kitchen? From the titles I could read there was more than one that was all about forensics, detectives, profiling, psychology, narcissists and mind games kind of stuff(that being gleaned from doing simple searches for book reviews on the titles/authors). Looks like OP was doing his own homework since his supposed interests were running and architecture...
View attachment 62693
BBM
It's described in Behind the Door: The Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp Story
By Mandy Wiener, Barry Bateman
In the extract scroll down to the The Lioness' Legacy, 6th page. I suppose it could be dismissed as hearsay.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...lved in previous aggressive incidents&f=false
We never got an answer to Nel's cryptic, "Did you ever tell anyone that you woke up in a cold sweat? No? You never said that to anyone?" did we?
When all this is done and dusted and OP's verdict is changed to DE and he's given the proper 15 years (I can dream), then I think Mr Nel needs to come and talk to us. We have much to discuss
I reckon he and Ms Johnson read this site.
*waves*