My brother did not hurt that little girl what the tabloids are saying is slander and lies
Hello. Who is your brother and what are the tabloids saying?
My brother did not hurt that little girl what the tabloids are saying is slander and lies
Giving the benefit of the doubt on this one, McGraw as holding up a copy of the RN at the time, showing it to Burke when he asked the question. (For anyone who wants to check, this occurs about ten minutes into the second episode.)DP: Does that look like her handwriting?
BURKE: (nervous laughter) Honestly, looking at that she would always bug me about having good handwriting. She would like make me re-write stuff to try and make me have good handwriting. I think it's too sloppy.
How is it too sloppy if he never read it?
Nope!Is there a no in his answer?
Excellent, Cs.In order for you to see JRs motive in voluntarily and purposely giving PRs pad to LE, you must take yourself into their minds, as they were staging the death of their daughter to make it look like an intruder had came in their home that night, and killed her.
We see how they went to the ends of the earth to distance themselves, in particular, Pasty from the ransom note. We see it in her coming up with a grand story of how she jumped over the note on her way down the spiral staircase that morning, or in her own words "somehow got around it", instead of just picking up the pieces of paper that were spread out before her. She then says she bounded back up the stairs, without ever touching the note to check JB room and called for John. Then somehow they arrived on the floor with no creases, bends, fingerprints, or any signs of handling, all spread out perfectly on the floor when Officer French arrived 7 minutes after the 911 call.
Where are the creases? Where are the signs of the parents clutching the note, reading word for word?, where are the parents fingerprints?
Kinda convienant how Patsy somehow avoided touching the note on her way down the stairs, and on her way up the stairs, even though this note says "we have your daughter". Kinda too convienant that JR was on his hands and knees, reading the note as it "lay on the floor". So as you can see the parents did everything they could to not touch the note once their gloves were off and were awaiting LE to arrive. Why?
So when LE asks for handwriting samples that morning, JR purposely gives them a pad that he wrote on, and then gives them the ransom note pad, which was Patsy's pad, that had some of her writings, lists, etc...You may ask yourself why would JR purposely give LE the incriminating pad?
It's for the same reason why they left two practice notes in the trash bin(Dr.Henry Lee)and one practice note in the pad.
Still confused? JR and PR had to paint a picture for LE that an intruder had done this. So here is the reasoning:
JR knew that LE would find Patsy's fingerprints all over the notepad(which they did, 5 of her prints were found on the notepad). JR and PR knew that her prints were not on the ransom note, or the practice ones that were found. So by this fact, they made it look like an intruder had came in the house, sat down and with gloves on, wrote the note and when he "messed" up, he just tossed away the practice notes(showing he was there taking his time). The Ramsey's could now say that her prints are all over the pad but not the note therefore it proves she didn't write it, or her prints would be on it. JR could also say, I gave you that pad, do you think if we did it, I would have given you that pad? I'm not that dumb! This was a reverse psychology move. Now don't you see how it all comes together? Now do you see why it was so pertinent that they tell a story of how Patsy never touched the note? They tried to distance themselves from the ransom note bc they knew it was going to be hard to overcome. They did the same thing with the flashlight. They left it out on purpose for LE to find, but completely wiped it of prints to distance themselves from it. They overthought it.
I called it a "reverse psychology move" when I wrote this. It is a form of plausible deniability.
But using the excellent point you made in a previous post, with which I agree wholeheartedly (bbm):^Thanks, it's not a terrible theory, but I disagree. If they were doing their best to separate themselves from the note, as you suggest in your first couple paragraphs, then they wouldn't have taken the risk of providing the direct source of the letter voluntarily. If that really was the plan, then they wouldn't have left the "Mr. & Mrs. I" page in the same notepad; they would have thrown that one away with the other two notes, because that one page directly implicates PR (since it was left in her tablet and not JR's). Providing the pads would have sufficed without that "Mr. & Mrs. I" page, with regard to "proving" they didn't write the note. All that "Mr. & Mrs. I" page does still in that pad, is directly implicate PR.
People always want to assume that every single thing that happened in this case has reason to it, which is a mistake. Not every single thing that occurred in this crime was 100% purposeful.
It's quite possible JR panicked and handed over the notepad because it would have looked incredibly suspicious if he didn't hand it over, especially if he knew police had already seen it.
It's also possible that he wasn't in PR's presence while she wrote the note (he was busy staging in the wine cellar), so he didn't realize it was written on that particular pad. Maybe he assumed PR wouldn't have been stupid enough to put the pad back.
Questions you'd like answers to...
Q: How often do/does Jonbenet's killer(s) come to this site and read or comment?
Likely never. He said on Phil McGraw's show he had never even read his mother's RN.
But using the excellent point you made in a previous post, with which I agree wholeheartedly (bbm):
No, I really was just pointing out that we could apply the same reasoning you had so succinctly expressed in the earlier post to the "practice" note(s). I think you are right (and very astute to notice) that we often try to explain every little detail assuming that everything done was deliberate. I think there were a lot of mistakes and unintentional slips that were made. The problem for us (or investigators) is being able to recognize them or take them into account.So you're saying, they forgot the "Mr. and Mrs. I" page was in there? That's plausible, but then, how do we know the 2 discarded notes weren't simply overlooked?
So you're saying, they forgot the "Mr. and Mrs. I" page was in there? That's plausible, but then, how do we know the 2 discarded notes weren't simply overlooked?
Where are the tears? If I read such a note it would be full of my tears and fingerprints. Js.
Hi Userid, In Steve Thomas' book IRMI he stated pages 17-25 were missing and page 26 was the Mr.and Mrs. I page. The ransom note was pages 27-29. The 2 practice notes *may* be #1. the Mr and Mrs I page 26 in the tablet with bleed through from page 25 and #2. page 25 which was never found. I've never read about a practice note in the trash. From Steve Thomas IRMI:
Furthermore, the ink bleedthrough discovered on page 26 indicated that perhaps still another practice note could have been written on page 25 and been discarded. Two possible practice notes and one real one covering three pages led me to believe that the killer had spent more time in the house composing the ransom note than we originally thought.
Hi Cranberry, thanks for the info. Those missing pages from 17-25 really make me wonder. There was a time when I thought that perhaps those pages were simply grocery lists or something innocuous to the case. If I remember correctly, pages 1-16 were doodles and notes (i.e. not incriminating in nature). What in the world could have been on those pages? Different (but finished) versions of the ransom note? Instructions for somebody? A list of items that needed to be removed?[/QUOTE
9 pages, I think practice makes perfect. And then it was edited down to 2 1/2 pages. JMO
I agree Ambitioned, tears, snot, makeup, Shout, lots of DNA would have been on there I would think.
In one of the transcipts, JOhn makes a mistake when mentioning the timeline for the ransom. Not gonna dig for it now but he was several hours off. When reading that, it made me think he's remembering an alternate ransom note and its timeline. Lucky for him, LE didn't call him on the odd mistake.Hi Cranberry, thanks for the info. Those missing pages from 17-25 really make me wonder. There was a time when I thought that perhaps those pages were simply grocery lists or something innocuous to the case. If I remember correctly, pages 1-16 were doodles and notes (i.e. not incriminating in nature). What in the world could have been on those pages? Different (but finished) versions of the ransom note? Instructions for somebody? A list of items that needed to be removed?
In one of the transcipts, JOhn makes a mistake when mentioning the timeline for the ransom. Not gonna dig for it now but he was several hours off. When reading that, it made me think he's remembering an alternate ransom note and its timeline. Lucky for him, LE didn't call him on the odd mistake.