Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #1

[SStarr33]

And was there any proof besides the women's claims?

Sounds about the same as with Cosby. Just he said she said and a payoff. Although with the prez there are the troopers who corroborate some of it.

 

[LinasK]

If you go back to the OP, I was wondering why some men like Clinton and Allen get a pass on stuff like this and others don't. I'm not calling any of them liars (except maybe JD). She's cray cray. I would just like some corroborating evidence. There's got to be some out there.

But you know what, even hookers get raped. Just because she has a history doesn't mean it didn't happen. He could've chosen his victims for vulnerability, just as Michael Jackson did. It appears there's even a racist component, as it seems all his victims are white.

 

[SStarr33]

Yes I would have, but my uncle wasn't a rich man to begin with.

Not me. I would give some away (to family), but I would not turn it down.

 

[LinasK]

Iam not gonna read all the posts on here as i just wanna put my thoughts out there and not be perswayded one way or the other ..My thought is this these women all are saying well i don't want anything out of this no 15 minutes of fame or a lawsuit / settlement and they just wanna make sure he cant do it to anyone else .For 1 cosby don't look like he is doing much these days he looks like he can hardly walk but heres my thought if these women dont wanna some sort of settlement as they say and there just doing it to make sure he dont ever do it again...where the hell were they like 10 years ago when bill cosby was doing his kid shows the dtuff like kids say the darndest things or whatever it was called where it was one on one bill cosby and these little boys and girls ..Seems to my if you were so worried about him doing this to other people as soon as u seen he was working with children where the hell were you then why didnt you try to stop cosby from possibly harming the most volunerable the kids none of these women came out then....

Fear, shame, and not being believed is a large reason why many women wait. And your argument sounds alot like what my father said to me. Just because Cosby may not be mobile/get it up, doesn't mean he couldn't still use his hands to molest someone.

 

[LinasK]

Not me. I would give some away (to family), but I would not turn it down.

His money was blood money to me. He was trying to assuage his guilt.

 

[SStarr33]

But you know what, even hookers get raped. Just because she has a history doesn't mean it didn't happen. He could've chosen his victims for vulnerability, just as Michael Jackson did. It appears there's even a racist component, as it seems all his victims are white.

Yeah, that's why I said maybe.

 

[Truthy]

I personally don't worship Woody Allen anymore, I started boycotting his movies when the allegations came out and have never seen another.

Me too, and then I got talked into seeing Blue Whateveritwas with Cate Blanchette. Guess what the theme was- a crazy gold digging woman ruins everyone else's life for reporting her husband's wrong doing (because she's scorned- of course!). She ends up alone and hated. WHUT?

Obviously inspired by his ex wife, but really a tribute to every defense lawyer who uses the "nuts and *advertiser censored*" defense. Disgusting as his comedies about screwing with underage girls.

 

[SStarr33]

His money was blood money to me. He was trying to assuage his guilt.

What if it was a decision by a court?

 

[Jmoose]

If you go back to the OP, I was wondering why some men like Clinton and Allen get a pass on stuff like this and others don't. I'm not calling any of them liars (except maybe JD). She's cray cray. I would just like some corroborating evidence. There's got to be some out there.

Wait and see-there just might be a woman out there who has been afraid to surface, and now that she has some cover, may do so. If he's guilty of what it's beginning to look like, I hope he has to face the music, even if it's only his career that implodes.

 

[SStarr33]

Then the Innocence Project has nothing to do with this case- or about women lying about being raped. Because these accusers know exactly who Bill Cosby is, and DNA is irrelevant, would not help prosecute this case. It is irrelevant in this discussion.

Not my post, the post I was responding to.

 

[SStarr33]

Wait and see-there just might be a woman out there who has been afraid to surface, and now that she has some cover, may do so. If he's guilty of what it's beginning to look like, I hope he has to face the music, even if it's only his career that implodes.

I think they HAVE to take him to court. Somebody posted statute of limitations info earlier and it is not too late in some states.

 

[Truthy]

Iam not gonna read all the posts on here as i just wanna put my thoughts out there and not be perswayded one way or the other ..My thought is this these women all are saying well i don't want anything out of this no 15 minutes of fame or a lawsuit / settlement and they just wanna make sure he cant do it to anyone else .For 1 cosby don't look like he is doing much these days he looks like he can hardly walk but heres my thought if these women dont wanna some sort of settlement as they say and there just doing it to make sure he dont ever do it again...where the hell were they like 10 years ago when bill cosby was doing his kid shows the dtuff like kids say the darndest things or whatever it was called where it was one on one bill cosby and these little boys and girls ..Seems to my if you were so worried about him doing this to other people as soon as u seen he was working with children where the hell were you then why didnt you try to stop cosby from possibly harming the most volunerable the kids none of these women came out then....

Many did come out 8-10 years ago- the press did nothing with it. Very hard to prove, and all the players -including Cosby knew it. A dozen women came forward- so he paid to make it go away.

 

[CanManEh]

SO there more woried about shame then little children being raped ..I never made the argument it didnt happen because he is old and cant get around that was simple a observation about how he looks now ...the fact that these women wouldnt say something when they new thoise kids were in thier heads in danger and they say nothing ..yet now they are saying they are doing it so he dont hurt no one when nothing is going on ..

 

[Truthy]

I think they HAVE to take him to court. Somebody posted statute of limitations info earlier and it is not too late in some states.

Are you kidding? They know they have no chance in criminal court. Never did. No witnesses that were not on his payroll, testimony from admittedly drugged women.
It was ALWAYS a non-starter.

 

[Truthy]

SO there more woried about shame then little children being raped ..I never made the argument it didnt happen because he is old and cant get around that was simple a observation about how he looks now ...the fact that these women wouldnt say something when they new thoise kids were in thier heads in danger and they say nothing ..yet now they are saying they are doing it so he dont hurt no one when nothing is going on ..

He never raped kids. WOW- blame all the victims who had no chance in a court of law.

 

[Jmoose]

And was there any proof besides the women's claims?

I don't know-do you? Just asking the OP what she meant, since she went to the trouble of researching and listing the women, since she doesn't believe Cosby's accusers. Can they really all be liars?

 

[CanManEh]

sorry that show aired 98-2000 so i was assuming 10 years ago but first complaint was 2005 and the show with the kids was 16 yrs ago..

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Bill Clinton

Took me about 30 seconds to find these and I'm sure there are more:

Juanita Broaddrick

Eileen Wellstone

In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton

In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse.

From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually.

Carolyn Moffet

Elizabeth Ward

Paula Corbin

Sandra Allen James

Christy Zercher

Kathleen Willey

Thanks for replying. I googled each of these women's names and with the exception of Broaddrick, not one of them claimed Bill Clinton raped them, much less drugged and raped them. Sexual harassment, groping, and extramarital affairs are serious business, but I don't see how they equate to claims of being drugged and raped.

But that aside.

Apparently you believe the claims these women have made against Bill Clinton, but not the claims that women have made against Bill Cosby.

Why is that? What is the difference between the two groups?

 

[CanManEh]

truthy i never said he did i suggest you read my first post before you write something saying i said it..

 

[Truthy]

You referenced the Innocence Project, which deals with DNA and its usefulness in identifying the real perpetrator of violent crimes-the leap was that you said the innocence project exonerates a great many falsely accused men; these men would be ones who are misidentified, which could never be the case with Bill Cosby-either he did it, or he didn't; he isn't being confused with another person who actually did something.

Yeah, that analogy was always baloney. When they find a case of a dozen women lying about the same man, it would be relevant.
Instead they will pull out the 10% claim- also nonsense. Stats for false claims are similar to all other crimes, but no one ever brings that up!