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:dunno: I stated Joe did not see JAR go "into" the Rs home in response to the first time I have seen anyone claim Barnhill saw JAR go "into" the home.

ST Page 70

Joe, a silver-haired man in his seventies [76], was taking care of his wife, who had Alzheimer's disease, and Joe was crippled so badly with palsy himself that he needed both hands to sign a shaky signature allowing us to obtain their personal and medical records.

ST Page 71

Another reason to interview the Barnhill's, however, was that Joe had told the police he had seen JonBenet’s older half-brother, John Andrew, in Boulder on the evening of December 25. John Andrew claimed to have been in Atlanta at the time. During the interview Barnhill sheepishly told us he had made a mistake and apologized, saying that he probably would not even recognize the young man in a crowd. That went a long way toward firming up John Andrew’s alibi.

ST, IRMI:
The police figured that John Andrew had a minimum of four and a half hours he could not account for—longer if he didn’t stay to see the entire movie. It would have been longer still if he never went to the theater but went to an airport instead. That scenario would give John Andrew almost nine hours to get from Marietta to Boulder and back. Until all airline and private plane flights were checked, John Andrew Ramsey would remain a suspect.

1997-04-30: John Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo

ST: ".... I exhausted John Andrew and made sure that there was no way that have could have got a flight between Atlanta in the middle of the night and to the point I checked flight schedules and passenger list."

PMPT:

It was impossible for John Andrew to have flown from Atlanta to Boulder, whether by commercial or private aircraft, commit the murder, and return in time to be awakened by his sister in the presence of Brad Millard, who had stayed overnight in John Andrew’s room.

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-john-andrew-ramsey.htm
http://www.acandyrose.com/s-neighbors-joe-betty-barnhill.htm
John Andrew Ramsey - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
 
^ Nope! Unbelievable- isn't it. Told through the police by the Ramsey's- sums it all up, quite nicely. Sickening.
 
Does anyone here know much about John Bennet Ramsey's childhood with his own mother? I think knowing about her could go far to answering some important questions about John. MOO
 
All I can add without researching his early childhood, is that John's mother died when he was in his twenties. John's first wife was Lucinda. So, for a short time, John's stepmother was also his mother in law when his father married his wife's mother.

Lucinda claimed infidelity broke apart their marriage. Patsy stated in the Police interview that she did not know John had an affair while married to Lucinda. Patsy stated the woman in AZ who claimed she dated JR a few times was an extortionist.

Both of the elder Ramsey sons, Jeff and John, were military men. Jeff was a decorated pilot.
 
All I can add without researching his early childhood, is that John's mother died when he was in his twenties. John's first wife was Lucinda. So, for a short time, John's stepmother was also his mother in law when his father married his wife's mother.

Lucinda claimed infidelity broke apart their marriage. Patsy stated in the Police interview that she did not know John had an affair while married to Lucinda. Patsy stated the woman in AZ who claimed she dated JR a few times was an extortionist.

Both of the elder Ramsey sons, Jeff and John, were military men. Jeff was a decorated pilot.

Whaaaaaaaat!???????
 
Whaaaaaaaat!???????

As I recall, JR's mother died in 1978, same year as his divorce from LR. (JR had been involved in an affair -as most here know - which led to the divorce.

JR's father James Dudley Ramsey married ISB (JR's former mother in law). They weren't married too long before James died in 1992, married only a year or two. Father had a reputation as a strong-willed individual (perfectionist?). Some people nicknamed him the Czar, in tribute to his military and civilian achievements and his commanding personality. Beth Ramsey died in January of 1992. JR's father died in March of 1992.
 
Posting here since this a thread invites the consideration of the strongest RDI involvement. Guess I align with some other posters in thinking that the reason the R’s did not call for help for JB and subsequently launched the massive cover-up was to conceal sexual abuse. For me, the chronic sexual abuse is the strongest evidence of RDI involvement – since it’s doubtful the Rs would pursue such a huge public relations effort, plus obtain lawyers before JB’s autopsy had even been performed, if it was an intruder who’d been visiting JB in her home. Imo, the chronic sexual abuse seems to be at the crux of the crime and all that followed thereafter.

As a guide there’s a classification of incest from psychiatrictimes.com --
Maddock and Larson have categorized incest into the following:
• Affection-based: the incest provides closeness in a family otherwise lacking in nurture and affection. There is an emphasis on the specialness of the relationship, within which otherwise unavailable caring is given and received
. • Erotic-based: the family atmosphere is one of chaotic pansexuality, and it is not uncommon for many members to be involved. Its norm is the erotization of relationships. The term “polyincest” is often used to describe such multiple-perpetrator situations.
• Aggression-based: the incestuous acts involve the perpetrator’s sexualized anger. The perpetrator vents his or her frustration and conflicts on a vulnerable individual, and physical mistreatment is often involved.
• Rage-based: the perpetrator is hostile and may be overtly sadistic. There may be great danger to the victim.
It is not unusual for mixtures of these components to be encountered.


We’ll never know for sure who in the household sexually abused her, so much of my post must be taken as one feels fits individual theories: PR, JR or BR. But the first person I wish to discuss is BR.

There is too much scuttlebutt from former friends/AG employee(s) about the problems between JB and BR for me to ignore that there may have been SBP existing in the home; this is obviously what Kolar speculates and all but actually states. Granted, it’s hearsay but hearsay from people who knew the family. One may therefore make a presumptive leap that the parents knew there were issues. After the adult Rs allegedly speak to the kids up in Charlevoix, MI, summer of 1996, about their “games”, some of JB’s enuresis and encopresis begin to abate. However, JB’s toileting issues start up again a month before her death. I’ve asked myself what is wrong with PR or JR to not correct this situation. One poster (Ozazure) stated once that when a problem goes on and is not corrected, there is a tendency towards “learned helplessness.“ This helplessness may be a combination of ego, denial, insulating oneself, to try not to care much since it’s been to no avail, a little like what happens in homes of addiction, ‘til there’s a tragedy.

Well, likely BR needed specialized treatment he never received. But . . . Marilyn Van Derbur Atler lays it out very bluntly in her book about the abuse she suffered and what parents need to do to prevent abuse between siblings. For example, they did not take any steps to keep the two separated at night. The kids’ situation goes beyond the polite term sibling “experimentation”. It is abuse, when one child dominates the other, regardless of age. It’s abusive and exploitive. And the parents are responsible.

For purposes of this post, I’m not going to throw in PR’s possible sexual abuse of JB (or JAR’s), because I’ve no real info on it. I’ll leave that discussion to others.

JR, OTOH, was considered by Hodges, Walter Davis and our own SD as having crossed boundaries with his daughter – a point JR always denied vehemently and often. We will never know, since there isn’t any way to actually corroborate it. But what we might be able to consider is a takeaway from the family dynamics, what child protective services notes about the family of incest and the roles all of them play.

When it comes to JR there’s plenty of documented stories regarding his behavior with his two daughters – Beth and JB. He keeps a photo of Beth in his bathroom, a private sanctuary. He calls his firstborn daughter frequently, and she appears to be his favorite. More importantly, the year he lost his marriage and his mother died, it would be easy to understand that JR may have turned to his oldest daughter for support.

When a parent uses a child to serve the parent’s emotional needs and promotes a child to a special and close role, however, that child becomes a surrogate spouse. Unfortunately the child is trapped in a world dominated by the needs of a parent. (PR fits this kind of abuse, too.) This type of relationship, is what psychologists term “emotional incest”. And it can easily contribute to a triangulation between 2 spouses and a child.

Who can forget JR explaining how JB was the one to cheer him up after Beth’s death. The “spark plug” of the family. And during PR’s absence for cancer treatment, JR turns to JB for support. JB assumes PR’s seat in the jeep, the passenger side, instead of the rear where a child normally would or should sit.

While I’ve never comfortably landed on any theory as to who wacked JB in the head (leaning towards BR for several reasons, but know it could have been PR exhibiting reckless anger, or even JR in trying to manage the cover-up), my only conclusion: The 3 R’s exploited JB in each their own way. The family was tangibly harming JB on several levels. And then she was physically destroyed. Beautiful gift of a child never had a chance. All MHO.
 
Posting here since this a thread invites the consideration of the strongest RDI involvement. Guess I align with some other posters in thinking that the reason the R’s did not call for help for JB and subsequently launched the massive cover-up was to conceal sexual abuse. For me, the chronic sexual abuse is the strongest evidence of RDI involvement – since it’s doubtful the Rs would pursue such a huge public relations effort, plus obtain lawyers before JB’s autopsy had even been performed, if it was an intruder who’d been visiting JB in her home. Imo, the chronic sexual abuse seems to be at the crux of the crime and all that followed thereafter.

As a guide there’s a classification of incest from psychiatrictimes.com --
Maddock and Larson have categorized incest into the following:
• Affection-based: the incest provides closeness in a family otherwise lacking in nurture and affection. There is an emphasis on the specialness of the relationship, within which otherwise unavailable caring is given and received
. • Erotic-based: the family atmosphere is one of chaotic pansexuality, and it is not uncommon for many members to be involved. Its norm is the erotization of relationships. The term “polyincest” is often used to describe such multiple-perpetrator situations.
• Aggression-based: the incestuous acts involve the perpetrator’s sexualized anger. The perpetrator vents his or her frustration and conflicts on a vulnerable individual, and physical mistreatment is often involved.
• Rage-based: the perpetrator is hostile and may be overtly sadistic. There may be great danger to the victim.
It is not unusual for mixtures of these components to be encountered.


We’ll never know for sure who in the household sexually abused her, so much of my post must be taken as one feels fits individual theories: PR, JR or BR. But the first person I wish to discuss is BR.

There is too much scuttlebutt from former friends/AG employee(s) about the problems between JB and BR for me to ignore that there may have been SBP existing in the home; this is obviously what Kolar speculates and all but actually states. Granted, it’s hearsay but hearsay from people who knew the family. One may therefore make a presumptive leap that the parents knew there were issues. After the adult Rs allegedly speak to the kids up in Charlevoix, MI, summer of 1996, about their “games”, some of JB’s enuresis and encopresis begin to abate. However, JB’s toileting issues start up again a month before her death. I’ve asked myself what is wrong with PR or JR to not correct this situation. One poster (Ozazure) stated once that when a problem goes on and is not corrected, there is a tendency towards “learned helplessness.“ This helplessness may be a combination of ego, denial, insulating oneself, to try not to care much since it’s been to no avail, a little like what happens in homes of addiction, ‘til there’s a tragedy.

Well, likely BR needed specialized treatment he never received. But . . . Marilyn Van Derbur Atler lays it out very bluntly in her book about the abuse she suffered and what parents need to do to prevent abuse between siblings. For example, they did not take any steps to keep the two separated at night. The kids’ situation goes beyond the polite term sibling “experimentation”. It is abuse, when one child dominates the other, regardless of age. It’s abusive and exploitive. And the parents are responsible.

For purposes of this post, I’m not going to throw in PR’s possible sexual abuse of JB (or JAR’s), because I’ve no real info on it. I’ll leave that discussion to others.

JR, OTOH, was considered by Hodges, Walter Davis and our own SD as having crossed boundaries with his daughter – a point JR always denied vehemently and often. We will never know, since there isn’t any way to actually corroborate it. But what we might be able to consider is a takeaway from the family dynamics, what child protective services notes about the family of incest and the roles all of them play.

When it comes to JR there’s plenty of documented stories regarding his behavior with his two daughters – Beth and JB. He keeps a photo of Beth in his bathroom, a private sanctuary. He calls his firstborn daughter frequently, and she appears to be his favorite. More importantly, the year he lost his marriage and his mother died, it would be easy to understand that JR may have turned to his oldest daughter for support.

When a parent uses a child to serve the parent’s emotional needs and promotes a child to a special and close role, however, that child becomes a surrogate spouse. Unfortunately the child is trapped in a world dominated by the needs of a parent. (PR fits this kind of abuse, too.) This type of relationship, is what psychologists term “emotional incest”. And it can easily contribute to a triangulation between 2 spouses and a child.

Who can forget JR explaining how JB was the one to cheer him up after Beth’s death. The “spark plug” of the family. And during PR’s absence for cancer treatment, JR turns to JB for support. JB assumes PR’s seat in the jeep, the passenger side, instead of the rear where a child normally would or should sit.

While I’ve never comfortably landed on any theory as to who wacked JB in the head (leaning towards BR for several reasons, but know it could have been PR exhibiting reckless anger, or even JR in trying to manage the cover-up), my only conclusion: The 3 R’s exploited JB in each their own way. The family was tangibly harming JB on several levels. And then she was physically destroyed. Beautiful gift of a child never had a chance. All MHO.
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For me the BBM is at the heart of it as well. Especially considering that for Meyer and those that attended the autopsy, the evidence of the abuse came out of no where. He didn't have to be "led" toward his conclusion.

Dr. Cyril Wecht, a well known forensic pathologist, has no doubt that the 45-pound child was molested. "If she had been taken to a hospital emergency room, and doctors had seen the genital evidence, the father would have been arrested," he has said.

Pretty much says it all.
 
If she had been taken to a hospital emergency room, and doctors had seen the genital evidence, the father would have been arrested," he has said.

I'm sure I'm not the first to have though this...but that's a pretty good reason why the Ramsey's would be reluctant to call 911 immediately.

If Jon Benet was struck by accident, they would have realized that the abuse would be realized quickly.

That means a quick decision. Think of the thoughts going through their heads in that time.

"Is she dead already?"
"Is she better off dead? Suppose she has permanent brain damage?"
"Suppose the whole family goes to jail? Who would take care of her?"
"Suppose my poor baby has to live with the stigma of being sexually molested for the rest of her life. Her life would be terrible."
"Will God damn us for this? Maybe if she is buried properly, we can still be saved!"
"Will the doctors at the hospital find out about her abuse? What about the medical examiners? Should we risk the medical examiner or the doctors.? My god what do we do? God help me!!"


These are the type of ideas and questions that would go through someones minds in the Ramsey's position.
 
In the RDI scenario, if either of JB's parents discovered her either dead or dying, whether or not BR was standing over her holding a weapon, and their first thought was not to call 911, who would they have really been protecting first? Themselves. That's enough to convince me they were more interested in their own well-being than that of either of their children.

I don't care what type of income you have, what your cultural fiber is, what your ethnicity, etc.....you find one of your children, whom you love and cherish dearly, in ANY state that requires emergency medical assistance beyond what you are capable of providing, you call 911. That is, if you are innocent of murder, even though you may know about sibling sexual abuse between your children. You DO NOT go through a series of rationalizations as to why you shouldn't call for help, and instead create a completely bizarre crime scene in order to keep your personal image guarded, or that of your other children.

If BR had abused and killed JB, and the R's had simply called 911, the local paper would have carried a story about it, and from then on every legal protection and avenue would have been in place and followed to keep Burke protected. The R's had enough wealth and power to keep any additional press squelched and attention OFF them, once police had been satisfied a 9 year old child committed the crime.

Maybe a few months of follow up reports, but after that so many things could have been done to afford Burke a future of healing and happy adulthood. As it is now, shadows still follow him. Left in the hands of his father's direction and protection, Burke will never be free. And John will never have to totally bear the brunt of being the one who would have been the main suspect from the beginning.
 
In the RDI scenario, if either of JB's parents discovered her either dead or dying, whether or not BR was standing over her holding a weapon, and their first thought was not to call 911, who would they have really been protecting first? Themselves. That's enough to convince me they were more interested in their own well-being than that of either of their children.

I don't care what type of income you have, what your cultural fiber is, what your ethnicity, etc.....you find one of your children, whom you love and cherish dearly, in ANY state that requires emergency medical assistance beyond what you are capable of providing, you call 911. That is, if you are innocent of murder, even though you may know about sibling sexual abuse between your children. You DO NOT go through a series of rationalizations as to why you shouldn't call for help, and instead create a completely bizarre crime scene in order to keep your personal image guarded, or that of your other children.

If BR had abused and killed JB, and the R's had simply called 911, the local paper would have carried a story about it, and from then on every legal protection and avenue would have been in place and followed to keep Burke protected. The R's had enough wealth and power to keep any additional press squelched and attention OFF them, once police had been satisfied a 9 year old child committed the crime.

Maybe a few months of follow up reports, but after that so many things could have been done to afford Burke a future of healing and happy adulthood. As it is now, shadows still follow him. Left in the hands of his father's direction and protection, Burke will never be free. And John will never have to totally bear the brunt of being the one who would have been the main suspect from the beginning.

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Agree with everything you said.

There were two aspects to this crime – her death itself and the cover-up. I look on the molestation, prima facie, as integrated with why she was struck:

If PR, assuming she was compos mentis that night (and that is still being debated) because she witnessed or was told by JB about the molestation.
If JR, perhaps covering up her vagus nerve injury from the scarf game.
If BR, stopping a scream during a molestation event.

But then when it comes to the cover-up, that’s where the soft ground lies. I understand that our answers for why no 911 may depend on our respective theories of the crime, and who did what.

I’m betting that for pretty much everyone on this forum, it’s inconceivable that they did not call 911 for help for their daughter--- if the parents were totally innocent. And for this one obscene question, why no 911 call for help, we may never get the answer quite right.

Sometime between 11:30 and 1:00 am, three people are alive and well in the home. The fourth lay dying somewhere, (basement, her bedroom, the living room, etc.) 15 to 45 minutes before she died from strangulation. One conclusion that perhaps at least 2 or maybe all 3 were somehow involved in JB’s death is almost too much to contemplate.

Equally horrible is that (if BDI) they thought JB was already dead when discovered, and then it’s down the rabbit hole again, because normal parents might still dial 911 not stage this.

Yet, listen to what Marilyn Van Derbur Atler said regarding what she thinks her parents would have done if she had attempted to tell. She commented that they would have killed her and then gone to lunch. So shameful is incest for a family it must be covered up no matter what. For an image conscious family like the Rs, the incest may also play an integral part, connecting to the actions the stagers took that night, no matter who struck her.

Chronic sexual abuse could mean that they might be accused of knowing about this and allowing it to continue (the learned helplessness response). Or one of the adults had either actually been involved in that kind of activity, or just couldn’t take the chance of being considered as having been involved.

The profilers have it right: Look at behavior of suspects both before and after a crime, and one comes to an understanding of their capacity for criminal actions, and then, specifically, whether one can still consider the Rs as just a "normal" family. MHO
 
It's frustrating that the behavior of those involved is dismissed as not relevant.
 
I've never heard of parents allowing a child to die *in that moment* because they were afraid she'd be brain damaged if she lived. I just don't think that consideration comes into play until later, unless you work with the brain-damaged or something. I'm sure there are many parents who, after dealing with a severely damaged or disfigured child for many years, have moments where they wish the child had just died, whether for the child's sake or for their own. But I just don't find it likely that that was a consideration at the time, especially since it wasn't like she'd been shot in the head and there was obvious brain destruction.

I do hear of many cases where a child confesses abuse or pregnancy and the mother reacts with outrage before slowly realizing the culprit is her husband/boyfriend/father/son. Then she decides it would better all be kept quiet. So I do think sexual abuse could make parent not bring a child to the ER, but if they didn't mistake her for dead, I would think they would be much more inclined to try and hide or excuse the injuries. It's amazing how many parents bring obviously abused children to the hospital thinking they will get away with it.
 
I've never heard of parents allowing a child to die *in that moment* because they were afraid she'd be brain damaged if she lived. I just don't think that consideration comes into play until later, unless you work with the brain-damaged or something. I'm sure there are many parents who, after dealing with a severely damaged or disfigured child for many years, have moments where they wish the child had just died, whether for the child's sake or for their own. But I just don't find it likely that that was a consideration at the time, especially since it wasn't like she'd been shot in the head and there was obvious brain destruction.

I do hear of many cases where a child confesses abuse or pregnancy and the mother reacts with outrage before slowly realizing the culprit is her husband/boyfriend/father/son. Then she decides it would better all be kept quiet. So I do think sexual abuse could make parent not bring a child to the ER, but if they didn't mistake her for dead, I would think they would be much more inclined to try and hide or excuse the injuries. It's amazing how many parents bring obviously abused children to the hospital thinking they will get away with it.

It boggles my mind. I think it shows major ignorance and entitlement. Besides the Ramseys (IMO), are there any other cases where the parent kills the child, presents/discovers the child's dead body, and is not arrested?
 
I've never heard of parents allowing a child to die *in that moment* because they were afraid she'd be brain damaged if she lived. I just don't think that consideration comes into play until later, unless you work with the brain-damaged or something. I'm sure there are many parents who, after dealing with a severely damaged or disfigured child for many years, have moments where they wish the child had just died, whether for the child's sake or for their own. But I just don't find it likely that that was a consideration at the time, especially since it wasn't like she'd been shot in the head and there was obvious brain destruction.

I do hear of many cases where a child confesses abuse or pregnancy and the mother reacts with outrage before slowly realizing the culprit is her husband/boyfriend/father/son. Then she decides it would better all be kept quiet. So I do think sexual abuse could make parent not bring a child to the ER, but if they didn't mistake her for dead, I would think they would be much more inclined to try and hide or excuse the injuries. It's amazing how many parents bring obviously abused children to the hospital thinking they will get away with it.

... and it's amazing how many more don't.
 
I've never heard of parents allowing a child to die *in that moment* because they were afraid she'd be brain damaged if she lived. I just don't think that consideration comes into play until later, unless you work with the brain-damaged or something. I'm sure there are many parents who, after dealing with a severely damaged or disfigured child for many years, have moments where they wish the child had just died, whether for the child's sake or for their own. But I just don't find it likely that that was a consideration at the time, especially since it wasn't like she'd been shot in the head and there was obvious brain destruction.
I hear you. but we don't know what symptons, if any, JB was displaying. it would have been frightening beyond belief if she was unresponsive and/or convulsing and/or seemed paralyzed and/or was breathing so shallowly as to appear dead. other factors are the family dynamic (being enmeshed, for example) and the personality and the emotional capability of the observer, and what is at stake when a child is severely injured under suspicious circumstances (reputation/prestige and wealth/power). some people rise to the occasion and some people fold

I knew someone who wrecked her car while driving drunk in the early 70s: no seatbelt laws then. her 3-year-old daughter (among other injuries which healed nicely) was horribly facially disfigured. even after surgery one eyelid was tilted much more vertically and her face was covered with large, red, ropey, thick scars. this person said that after she sobered up her first thought when she saw her daughter was "I hope she dies, because I don't want her to live like this." in later counseling she came to admit that her death wish was more about avoiding blame/guilt for the rest of her own life than it was about compassion for her daughter

(this is the same person I posted about whose mother didn't intervene during the many years she was basically the sex slave of her father and older brothers. not an excuse for her alcohol issues, but an explanation)
 
I knew someone who wrecked her car while driving drunk in the early 70s: no seatbelt laws then. her 3-year-old daughter (among other injuries which healed nicely) was horribly facially disfigured. even after surgery one eyelid was tilted much more vertically and her face was covered with large, red, ropey, thick scars. this person said that after she sobered up her first thought when she saw her daughter was "I hope she dies, because I don't want her to live like this." in later counseling she came to admit that her death wish was more about avoiding blame/guilt for the rest of her own life than it was about compassion for her daughter

I can easily see that when parents see the results of the incident, they think "oh, I wish she'd just died." But, although you make a good point about possible seizures etc., JB wasn't in a position to look horribly disfigured and it wasn't obviously that she would be totally incapacitated if she lived - so I just think that reaction wouldn't be there. If she'd lived and it became clear she'd permanently lost all speech and cognition, or if her face was bashed in, I can easily see that reaction. I think for burn patients it is a common reaction, but again, it's staring you in the face - not a future possibility.

It boggles my mind. I think it shows major ignorance and entitlement. Besides the Ramseys (IMO), are there any other cases where the parent kills the child, presents/discovers the child's dead body, and is not arrested?

I think it shows mostly ignorance - people don't get that doctors know what certain injury types look like. And I think most people really are not inclined to do the alternative and let the child suffer and die - some will to save themselves, but even really messed up people who abuse their kids generally won't go that far. Plus people who go that far probably don't think very far ahead or understand the gravity of their actions.

I imagine there have been a lot of "accidental" deaths that did not result in parent arrests that were not in fact accidental. There are some questionable SIDs cases, and if you watch the show 'Deadly Women', they have tons of mothers throughout history killing their kids and not paying for it.

... and it's amazing how many more don't.

It doesn't amaze me - the figures seem to be pretty low. How many children die of injuries from abuse without being taken to a hospital? There's a recent case in MA making headlines, but it's not common, because then the child has to 'disappear' mysteriously and people get caught too easily. I'm sure in earlier times, it happened a lot more, or in cult-like atmospheres. But it's still a rarity - I'm sure thousands of kids every day are taken to hospitals with evidence of abuse.

Sexual abuse is more iffy - I think that one gets covered up a whole lot, partly because of the added 'shame' aspect that allows people to justify hiding it. But I don't hear of many cases where a child died of some unrelated problem because the parents were afraid to have her treated in case evidence of sexual abuse came out.

Which brings me to another question. Don't people say that JB was visiting a doctor regularly for issues possibly related to sexual abuse, and that for that reason they wouldn't reveal her medical records? Now, I know a doctor may not want to make such an accusation, but wouldn't it be much riskier to bring her in for that type of exam which has a huge risk of discovery and is not life threatening v. being afraid to bring her in for a head injury that is life threatening? It's possible they would not find the evidence of sexual abuse - fairly unlikely, but possible, especially if she'd ended up waking up and not needed long term care while unconscious. The injuries were not so severe that they would be immediately obvious.
 
I can easily see that when parents see the results of the incident, they think "oh, I wish she'd just died." But, although you make a good point about possible seizures etc., JB wasn't in a position to look horribly disfigured and it wasn't obviously that she would be totally incapacitated if she lived - so I just think that reaction wouldn't be there. If she'd lived and it became clear she'd permanently lost all speech and cognition, or if her face was bashed in, I can easily see that reaction. I think for burn patients it is a common reaction, but again, it's staring you in the face - not a future possibility.

RSBM

She may have thought that way regarding the sexual abuse, if she had just discovered it that night. Just a thought in regards to that line of thinking and what PR could have been thinking, not necessarily a theory or anything that has any truth to it. :twocents:
 

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